Not necessarily. Assassin's Creed was massive. Watch Dogs sold extremely well also.
It's a combination of timing, marketing and the game itself.
I stand corrected but then again this is a full exclusive which will limit the numbers a lot.
Not necessarily. Assassin's Creed was massive. Watch Dogs sold extremely well also.
It's a combination of timing, marketing and the game itself.
I still remeber the pain i felt when i had to wait 9 days before i could play The Last of Us after reading all the reviews and people on Gaf that already had the game.
It's not okay to say you don't like a character based off of nearly two years of hype material? If the trailers, art, gameplay videos etc didn't make me like the main character, how would playing the game magically change that?What a weird assumption to make. How do you know you wont like her when you don't know the story or the context in which she is characterized?
This isn't a rivalry. These are fans downplaying games they haven't play yet.The rivalry persists...
The order of the conversation was literally:
"few millions wouldn't be huge for a AAA game"
"would 2-4M be bad for Horizon?"
"holy shit I never said that, 2-4M would be good"
"cool, so 2-4M would be good for Horizon and other AAA games"
"welcome to ignore"
I'm not sure what I missed there...
Anyway, back on topic. Let's stop talking about comparisons to games from other genres.
It's not okay to say you don't like a character based off of nearly two years of hype material? If the trailers, art, gameplay videos etc didn't make me like the main character, how would playing the game magically change that?
If it's okay for people to fall in love with a character based off trailers and gameplay vids (ie literally everyone with Stella from ffv13) then why isn't it okay to not like a character based off ad material?
So if I were to put a score down to these two reviews:
Engadget 9/10 or 10/10
Videogamer 7/10 or 8/10
So a majority of this reviewers enjoyment of the game comes from loving the main character? After all the media and trailers shown, I still don't like Alloy as a main character so I guess a big focus of the game is already lost on me. I hope the mechanics and structure are unique and not "Ubisoft Open World Design 101" becuse that would be a let down.
On a seperate note, Horizon has been above zelda and is currently at #3, 1.5 weeks prior to release. Going to be a hit for Sony.
Story and context. The placement and pacing of events and character moments. It's like saying you can't stand a character in a movie because what you saw in trailers and clips, or from a book exceptIt's not okay to say you don't like a character based off of nearly two years of hype material? If the trailers, art, gameplay videos etc didn't make me like the main character, how would playing the game magically change that?
If it's okay for people to fall in love with a character based off trailers and gameplay vids (ie literally everyone with Stella from ffv13) then why isn't it okay to not like a character based off ad material?
This isn't a rivalry. These are fans downplaying games they haven't play yet.
I don't think GG and Nintendo care at all. A real rivalry is like Call of Duty vs Battlefield where the companies are trying to one up each other.
I think Videogamer is 8/10.So if I were to put a score down to these two reviews:
Engadget 9/10 or 10/10
Videogamer 7/10 or 8/10
Horizon's behind the Wii U version of Zelda, let alone the Switch version if you look at the whole year.
No doubt the preorders are doing well for a new IP and Sony will aggressively cut the price, bundle the game with the system (if it reviews well)/give away on PS+ over the next few years
This isn't a rivalry. These are fans downplaying games they haven't play yet.
I don't think GG and Nintendo care at all. A real rivalry is like Call of Duty vs Battlefield where the companies are trying to one up each other.
Oh, they don't care. "The rivalry persists" is just what I like to say whenever Zelda-related threads pop up in Horizon threads, or vice-versa, because it's always amusing when it happens. The rivalry exists for several people on GAF though, no denying that at this point. It's
I think Videogamer is 8/10.
You Kat's need to fucking stop, right here, right now.
Do you guys post one after the other on purpose? It happens a lot hahha
Story and context isn't going to make me enjoy the design of the character. It's not crazy to say that I enjoy the idea of the game but I don't like the design of the main character. It does nothing for me.Story and context. The placement and pacing of events and character moments. It's like saying you can't stand a character in a movie because what you saw in trailers and clips, or from a book except
You Kat's need to fucking stop, right here, right now.
lmaoDo you guys post one after the other on purpose? It happens a lot hahha
lolLol, it does seem to happen often. Honestly, they don't look that similar though
Drifting, wait 60 seconds before posting.
Something something something don't use Amazon charts for software as it's always skewed toward certain games something somethingOn a seperate note, Horizon has been above zelda and is currently at #3, 1.5 weeks prior to release. Going to be a hit for Sony.
Horizon's behind the Wii U version of Zelda, let alone the Switch version if you look at the whole year.
No doubt the preorders are doing well for a new IP and Sony will aggressively cut the price, bundle the game with the system (if it reviews well)/give away on PS+ over the next few years
lmao
I swear it is just coincidental.
lol
Story and context isn't going to make me enjoy the design of the character. It's not crazy to say that I enjoy the idea of the game but I don't like the design of the main character. It does nothing for me.
Where was all this defense force for characters based on trailers and gameplay when 90% of neogaf was crapping on the cast of FF15? It can't only be applied to this game becuse its apparently the second coming of Christ for neogaf.
I hope I enjoy the character when the game releases. But there's nothing wrong with not liking the character going in.
I mean, even without using Amazon, the game will do well.Something something something don't use Amazon charts for software as it's always skewed toward certain games something something
Ah, you talking about the design of the character. Thought you were talking about characterization and whatnot. That's differentStory and context isn't going to make me enjoy the design of the character. It's not crazy to say that I enjoy the idea of the game but I don't like the design of the main character. It does nothing for me.
Where was all this defense force for characters based on trailers and gameplay when 90% of neogaf was crapping on the cast of FF15? It can't only be applied to this game becuse its apparently the second coming of Christ for neogaf.
I hope I enjoy the character when the game releases. But there's nothing wrong with not liking the character going in.
I mean, even without using Amazon, the game will do well.
Low-key everyone bringing it up all the time ironically makes me want to purposefully do it from time to time lol
I'm not disputing that, but Amazon doesn't really mean anything when it comes to actual buying habits. As GTA and COd BF etc would be #1 etc constantlyI mean, even without using Amazon, the game will do well.
See above. It's useless in discussing anything. NIoh is doing great on Amazon. It won't when actua sales come outThat's obvious, amazon is a fine tool anyway, it's not the be all end all, don;t get why so many people get upset when people mention it.
It makes me want to use a Kat avatar, too.
Sorry for the confusion. It's the design and presentation of the character I dont like. If she turns out being like Mother Theresa when I play this game I will enjoy the character from a story perspective, but from a design standpoint it still does nothing for me.Ah, you talking about the design of the character. Thought you were talking about characterization and whatnot. That's different
As for the second point, you realize that not everyone posts in every major thread? I'd say the same toward similar comments for any game
Nah. KT is happy with worldwide sales.I'm not disputing that, but Amazon doesn't really mean anything when it comes to actual buying habits. As GTA and COd BF etc would be #1 etc constantly
See above. It's useless in discussing anything. NIoh is doing great on Amazon. It won't when actua sales come out
I'm not disputing that, but Amazon doesn't really mean anything when it comes to actual buying habits. As GTA and COd BF etc would be #1 etc constantly
See above. It's useless in discussing anything. NIoh is doing great on Amazon. It won't when actua sales come out
See above. It's useless in discussing anything. NIoh is doing great on Amazon. It won't when actua sales come out
I'm not disputing that, but Amazon doesn't really mean anything when it comes to actual buying habits. As GTA and COd BF etc would be #1 etc constantly
See above. It's useless in discussing anything. NIoh is doing great on Amazon. It won't when actua sales come out
We're talking about software right now. "Anything"referring to softwareDisagree, it has also been right 95% of the time regarding hardware, It is an OK data point nothing more or less.
We're talking about software right now. "Anything"referring to software
900+ posts for one review? This game is hyped!
I'm gonna miss pre-realease Horizon threads, I swear every time I click on one there's something silly being argued for multiple pages. It's been a fun ride. Review Thread should be great though, hopefully Tree density guy, fog guy, her fingers are too long guy, Aloy is too ugly guy and all the Zelda vs Horizon guys and gals make an appearance.
I'm gonna miss pre-realease Horizon threads, I swear every time I click on one there's something silly being argued for multiple pages. It's been a fun ride. Review Thread should be great though, hopefully Tree density guy, fog guy, her fingers are too long guy, Aloy is too ugly guy and all the Zelda vs Horizon guys and gals make an appearance.
Given the 60M+ PS4 user base it's entirely possible for Horizon to outsell Zelda with the right reviews and marketing.
Horizon is everywhere right now, with TV ads and YouTube gameplay, and has consistently been above Zelda in Amazon best seller lists.
PS4 owners without the Wii U but looking to get a Switch are likely to choose Horizon first and then pick up a Switch once there's more to play than just Zelda.
Nintendo needs to have a big marketing blowout, and soon.
If even one review says "Zelda Killer" there will be mega meltdowns all over the internet.
For 2 reviews.Good lord. This thread almost has 1000 replies.
Reporting Status:
Tree density guy - Banned
Fog Guy - Things are clear now as he move forward.
Finger long guy - Master troll
Aloy ugly guy - Banned
Zelda vs Horizon - Those are only our last Hope.
This is law.You either die as a horizon zero dawn thread or you live long enough to see yourself become a horizon vs zelda thread.