Seven Force
Banned
I think he looks fine, but I've never played nor do I have any intention of playing FFT, so *shrug*
First screenshots of Ramza in Dissidia Final Fantasy Arcade
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He was. The jury is still out on this one though
Meccanical
Member
Yoshida didn't design Elza and Reddas. That was Nao Ikeda, of Team NORA fame.
Oh god, why'd you remind of these things.
Still that makes a lot of sense in hindsight.
I don't think he looks too bad. I'm more salty they didn't use this Ramza
I understand the feeling, but in previous entries of Dissidia, the character's that make their appearances in the games are always usually them before they receive any kind of character development in the game, you know, so we can retread their story in a new setting because that's so fun and interesting.
That being said, it makes sense that they would go with Squire Ramza for Dissidia.
vainglorious
Member
Yoshida didn't design Elza and Reddas. That was Nao Ikeda, of Team NORA fame.
Yo, Nao Ikeda gave us Jihl Nabaat so they can do whatever the fuck they want as far as I'm concerned.
Meccanical
Member
Who?
vainglorious
Member
I actually don't think the facial features Nomura gave him in the artwork are that bad; it mainly seems to be due to how they were adapted to the ingame model.
Meccanical
Member
She was the bad guy in FF13 until terrible writing took over.
Forgive my ignorance, it's just that she died so quickly and did so much nothing.
Maintenance
Member
What.
I don't think he looks too bad. I'm more salty they didn't use this Ramza
Best Ramza.
Yeah.
vainglorious
Member
Well, yeah.
She did do a lot though, it was just... all in the datalogs.
Like, she was the head of Psicom and was in charge of the Purge at the beginning of the game, and she lead the investigation on Dajh and his l'Cie powers and...
So much wasted potential. There was a really great antagonistic relationship between her and Sazh for all the shit she pulled with Dajh and even Nomura said that we would have preferred that Sazh and Jihl represent FF13 in the Dissidia games because of that relationship but it's all for fucking nothing in the end.
I don't think he looks too bad. I'm more salty they didn't use this Ramza
I'm expecting that to be an alternate costume when they start adding them.
Well, yeah.
She did do a lot though, it was just... all in the datalogs.
Like, she was the head of Psicom and was in charge of the Purge at the beginning of the game, and she lead the investigation on Dajh and his l'Cie powers and...
So much wasted potential. There was a really great antagonistic relationship between her and Sazh for all the shit she pulled with Dajh and even Nomura said that we would have preferred that Sazh and Jihl represent FF13 in the Dissidia games because of that relationship but it's all for fucking nothing in the end.
I was talking earlier in the thread about how crappy of a villian Bartandalus is. I wouldnt be surprised if the 13 representitive was Cid... I said Cid or Jihl earlier but your post makes it sound like Jihl is definately out.
vainglorious
Member
I'd prefer Jihl but because Cid ends up as a Cocoon l'Cie and is forced to fight against Lightning he becomes the more tragic obvious choice.
He's just as fucking boring as Bartandalus is though honestly.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
Jihl is the Captain Phasma of FFXIII.
I have my doubts that Cid will get in. Can't see them adding XIII's Cid of all Cids to be the playable Cid.
I won't be surprised if they ignore XIII and just have Caius be the XIII-series villain.
vainglorious
Member
LOL
Omg YES. Jihl and Phasma were in all the trailers and promo shots and people were calling her a female Sephiroth and then well...
Surprise!
Uuuuuugh.
Ultimadrago
Member
:lol
Meccanical
Member
Well, yeah.
She did do a lot though, it was just... all in the datalogs.
That's the story of FFXIII's life isn't it?
All the things that should have been shown weren't, all the of the things that were shown honestly didn't amount to shit.
I am baffled by FFXIII to this day.
If they're going with an antagonist from the sequels, Lumina would make more sense. It'd fit with the other new XIII characters being the Saviour of Souls and the Knight of Etro.
Crash Station
Member
Haven't read more than a few posts, but I'm sure I'm not the only one that thought Ramza was a girl as a kid based on the portrait art. Don't see much of a difference now other than he's even more beautiful.
Well played.
cloudstrife
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SilverArrow20XX
Walks in the Light of the Crystal
He looks outright female. I'm usually one to roll my eyes at people who claim FF protagonists look like women.
I've never been able to get into FFT so I didn't know instinctively by title that this was a male, so I was a little surprised at how flat-chested this female character was.. I was kind of impressed at the level of realism of a sword-wielder having small or taped down breasts. In every image in the OP, I am certain that is the face of a female. Crazy.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
I've come a long way from 2001 of thinking Marth looked like a girl to actually seeing anime guys that actually now look like girls, and I have to say, this render brings it to a whole new level of that's just straight up a woman
theofficefan99
Junior Member
Can someone explain this to me :/
aspiegamer
Member
I will be unable to refer to this character as anything but "she" now. There's no possible way you could convince me otherwise. Not. Possible. This is fine, of course, but I don't know if it was the actual intention or not. Every possible feature is feminine other than the relatively thin thighs compared to the extremely high waist.
This is an absolute slam dunk case compared to the well-discussed androgynous Link from last year.
This is an absolute slam dunk case compared to the well-discussed androgynous Link from last year.
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
I don't think he looks too bad. I'm more salty they didn't use this Ramza
yeah i was expecting this one
Muppet of a Man
Member
In this original (noseless) art, his face is longer and his shoulders/arms are broader, giving him a less androgynous look. He certainly looks like an underdeveloped teen, but that is the point.
In this new game he just straight out looks like a teenage girl, with wide hips, narrow shoulders/arms, and a rounder face with eyes, nose, and mouth closer together (more feminine characteristics).
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
Yaag at least
got a cool death scene
Also, battle armor Ramza is the Ramza you spend the most time with, and you're even introduced to him looking like that, so it's surprising they went with his noble attire. I guess they're sticking to the first (chronological) appearance rule.
I'm not a fan of the new design.
Glad to see Ramza is included, however.
Ramza is my go-to name for strategy RPG characters
HomerSimpson-Man
Member
Holy hell, could have just said it was women and I would have not have thought out it.
Ramza ultra feminine features make one distractedly beautiful man, I'm so conflicted.
Ramza ultra feminine features make one distractedly beautiful man, I'm so conflicted.
KojiKnight
Member
I love you Ramza I do... but I could never be IN love with you like you want me to be with your latest bout of cosmetic surgery.
Platinumed FFXIII and I don't even remember who Yaag is. I had to look up what happened to Jihl too. So sad that an interesting world did not have writing that lived up to it.
Dissidia was big on alternative outfits so an armored Ramza seems likely.
