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Jesus, is there nobody in this thread a beginner like me? I'm all proud I can muster 6 reps of bench press at 80 lbs while the rest of you are squatting buses. FML.
 
I've been doing starting strength and going up 10 pounds every workout on squats. Last week I had 245, and I failed after four reps on 255. Well rather I decided that I should stop after my form went to crap. What do I do now? Reset? How much? Keep trying?

Keep adding weight to the bar, but decrease the increments to 5# per workout. That's textbook SS

Jesus, is there nobody in this thread a beginner like me? I'm all proud I can muster 6 reps of bench press at 80 lbs while the rest of you are squatting buses. FML.

What program are you following?
 

rando14

Member
Jesus, is there nobody in this thread a beginner like me? I'm all proud I can muster 6 reps of bench press at 80 lbs while the rest of you are squatting buses. FML.

Don't worry about it friend, the most frequent posters in this thread are the ones who tend to lift the most. Since a lot of us have been lifting for years, we have intermediate-advanced numbers, and fitness is a big part of our lives.

Please don't be discouraged from posting here, numbers themselves don't mean jack. It's not a race, it's a marathon ;)
 
What program are you following?

Program? I dunno. Whatever program I like on bb.com. Honestly I've been training since April and I'm just as lost I was before. I'm starting to get frustrated because since my initial toning up and bump in size nothing else has improved in almost a month. Presses haven't increased, Infact I've gotten weaker. Curls haven't increased either. I'm so confused about all the differing opinions and data that it's overwhelming. And now I'm getting reoccurring pains in my right elbow.

When I started this journey I was under the impression that going to gym, training would help boost my confidence. Infact it's done the opposite as I'm plagued with self doubt and my self esteem issues are at all time high as I can't help but compare myself to other guys who look like they know what their doing, and I look like a total amateur. Christ I'm even too intimidated to go to the weight room when it's full.

Sorry for the rant. I guess I needed to vent.


Don't worry about it friend, the most frequent posters in this thread are the ones who tend to lift the most. Since a lot of us have been lifting for years, we have intermediate-advanced numbers, and fitness is a big part of our lives.

Please don't be discouraged from posting here, numbers themselves don't mean jack. It's not a race, it's a marathon ;)

I hear that all the time. I dunno if I believe it applies to me. I wish I had a gym buddy, honestly...
 

rando14

Member
Program? I dunno. Whatever program I like on bb.com. Honestly I've been training since April and I'm just as lost I was before. I'm starting to get frustrated because since my initial toning up and bump in size nothing else has improved in almost a month. Presses haven't increased, Infact I've gotten weaker. Curls haven't increased either. I'm so confused about all the differing opinions and data that it's overwhelming. And now I'm getting reoccurring pains in my right elbow.

When I started this journey I was under the impression that going to gym, training would help boost my confidence. Infact it's done the opposite as I'm plagued with self doubt and my self esteem issues are at all time high as I can't help but compare myself to other guys who look like they know what their doing, and I look like a total amateur. Christ I'm even too intimidated to go to the weight room when it's full.

Sorry for the rant. I guess I needed to vent.




I hear that all the time. I dunno if I believe it applies to me. I wish I had a gym buddy, honestly...

i'm sorry to hear that you're struggling. Have you filled out one of the beginner post forms regarding your stats and goals? We could try and help you work out a regimen from there :)
 

ACE 1991

Member
Program? I dunno. Whatever program I like on bb.com. Honestly I've been training since April and I'm just as lost I was before. I'm starting to get frustrated because since my initial toning up and bump in size nothing else has improved in almost a month. Presses haven't increased, Infact I've gotten weaker. Curls haven't increased either. I'm so confused about all the differing opinions and data that it's overwhelming. And now I'm getting reoccurring pains in my right elbow.

When I started this journey I was under the impression that going to gym, training would help boost my confidence. Infact it's done the opposite as I'm plagued with self doubt and my self esteem issues are at all time high as I can't help but compare myself to other guys who look like they know what their doing, and I look like a total amateur. Christ I'm even too intimidated to go to the weight room when it's full.

Sorry for the rant. I guess I needed to vent.




I hear that all the time. I dunno if I believe it applies to me. I wish I had a gym buddy, honestly...

I was the same way man, and I'm still one of the weaker posters in this thread. You just need to realize that no one is judging you or even paying you any mind if you're not doing anything ridiculous. In myexperience the biggest guys are the friendliest.
 

Petrie

Banned
Jesus, is there nobody in this thread a beginner like me? I'm all proud I can muster 6 reps of bench press at 80 lbs while the rest of you are squatting buses. FML.


If you want to feel better look up the old OTs and watch the journey. I think I came in during OT3 and was a weak mess. You'll get there.

Find a real program for a beginner though, not just whatever you liked on BB.com. that's a recipe for failure.
 

MrOogieBoogie

BioShock Infinite is like playing some homeless guy's vivid imagination
Damn, Coot, I've got a long way until I'm anywhere close to your weighted muscle-ups.

Tried it for the first time today with a belt and 25 pounds... failed hard.

Brought it down to 20... failed hard. 17.5... failed. 15... failed. Finally managed one rep at 12.5 lbs. lol
 

Cooter

Lacks the power of instantaneous movement
Damn, Coot, I've got a long way until I'm anywhere close to your weighted muscle-ups.

Tried it for the first time today with a belt and 25 pounds... failed hard.

Brought it down to 20... failed hard. 17.5... failed. 15... failed. Finally managed one rep at 12.5 lbs. lol
99%+ of gym goers can't even do a body weight muscle up Boogie. Any weighted muscle up is impressive! You'll get there. With your discipline I have zero doubt. Until then let me have my one thing! ;)
 
Okay here goes:

Age: 35
Height: 5'7
Weight: 165 lbs
Goal: not sure, 5-10 lbs of muscle. Bigger arms, more defined chest.
Current Training Schedule: 3-4 days a week
Current Training Equipment Available: At home I have a barbell bench, barbell, 8 x 10 lbs plates, 2 dumbells, 4 x 5 lbs plates and 2 x 2.5 plates

And then whatever equipment and machines are at the gym. Ive recently fallen in love with cables. I love cables and the freedom and control it provides.


Comments: Ive been training since April/March. I havent gained any weight per se, but I have toned up quite a bit. My arms and chest have grown slightly, with my shoulders being the stand out muscle group to see the greatest gains. Ive also been taking supplements, including protein, mass builders, creatine and preworkout supplements for energy. My curls and bench press initially increased in weights, My curls went from 10 lbs to 20 lbs, my bench press went from 40 to 65-80. That being said, the barbells at the gym must be heavier because at the gym my presses have dropped to 30 lbs.

Here are some pics:

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This pic is a comparison of where Im at and a short term goal. Thats me on the left. Thats where Id like to be on the right.

Anyways. Any advice or routines you can point my way would be great. Ive already invested so much time and money into this journey I really dont wanna give up.
 

MrOogieBoogie

BioShock Infinite is like playing some homeless guy's vivid imagination
99%+ of gym goers can't even do a body weight muscle up Boogie. Any weighted muscle up is impressive! You'll get there. With your discipline I have zero doubt. Until then let me have my one thing! ;)

Haha, yeah, I'm totally aware of that, I'm just genuinely surprised by how much more difficult it was to squeeze out even one rep than what I expected. But at least it's something I can now work towards. I'll add it to my routine on back/bicep day or something.
 
I believe I started posting in OT2. I still remember SeanR and Falling edge starting off. Some interesting posts to show how far we've come ;)

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=28114689&postcount=19995
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=27962382&postcount=19725
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=27970328&postcount=19743
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=27158155&postcount=18777

KILL ME if falling edge is still benching 185 ;)

lol damn. talk about way back. 2011 seems like such a long time ago, wow.

I was fucking around the past few weeks and stopped at 2 reps @ 285. With a proper warm up, I really felt like I could have gotten 315. Crazy how far I have gotten in 2 years.

Thanks for that :)
 

Cooter

Lacks the power of instantaneous movement
Haha, yeah, I'm totally aware of that, I'm just genuinely surprised by how much more difficult it was to squeeze out even one rep than what I expected. But at least it's something I can now work towards. I'll add it to my routine on back/bicep day or something.
I'm sure you already know but make sure you start with it before you lift anything. I usually stretch a little and do a few high explosive pull ups. After that it's time to attempt it. I want to be as fresh as possible.

EDIT: Oh, and SpaceBridge, your arms have grown more than slightly. That's awesome! Keep up the hard work and use all the knowledgeable people in here like I have over the 4 or 5 years this place has been around.
 

Cudder

Member
Okay here goes:

Age: 35
Height: 5'7
Weight: 165 lbs
Goal: not sure, 5-10 lbs of muscle. Bigger arms, more defined chest.
Current Training Schedule: 3-4 days a week
Current Training Equipment Available: At home I have a barbell bench, barbell, 8 x 10 lbs plates, 2 dumbells, 4 x 5 lbs plates and 2 x 2.5 plates

And then whatever equipment and machines are at the gym. Ive recently fallen in love with cables. I love cables and the freedom and control it provides.


Comments: Ive been training since April/March. I havent gained any weight per se, but I have toned up quite a bit. My arms and chest have grown slightly, with my shoulders being the stand out muscle group to see the greatest gains. Ive also been taking supplements, including protein, mass builders, creatine and preworkout supplements for energy. My curls and bench press initially increased in weights, My curls went from 10 lbs to 20 lbs, my bench press went from 40 to 65-80. That being said, the barbells at the gym must be heavier because at the gym my presses have dropped to 30 lbs.

Here are some pics:

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3204d97a-ce4d-4c20-bbea-7fe7b21ac8f8_zps30e7af65.jpg


This pic is a comparison of where Im at and a short term goal. Thats me on the left. Thats where Id like to be on the right.

Anyways. Any advice or routines you can point my way would be great. Ive already invested so much time and money into this journey I really dont wanna give up.

for 4 months, those pics show pretty amazing progress, not sure what you're on about lol.

Pick a program (people will tell you to do Starting Strength, and they wouldn't be wrong) and stick with it.
 

SeanR1221

Member
I believe I started posting in OT2. I still remember SeanR and Falling edge starting off. Some interesting posts to show how far we've come ;)

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=28114689&postcount=19995
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=27962382&postcount=19725
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=27970328&postcount=19743
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=27158155&postcount=18777

KILL ME if falling edge is still benching 185 ;)

Hahahaha kill my posts with fire. I'm glad I got a swift kick in the ass and was put on the right path.
 

Chocobro

Member
Jesus, is there nobody in this thread a beginner like me? I'm all proud I can muster 6 reps of bench press at 80 lbs while the rest of you are squatting buses. FML.

I'm a beginner as well, so you aren't alone :) I only made one post here a few days ago. Did mostly calisthenics for about two months, hit the gym at my university today for the first time. Before starting calisthenics, I think I was only able to bench press 75lbs for like 5 reps.

When I started this journey I was under the impression that going to gym, training would help boost my confidence. Infact it's done the opposite as I'm plagued with self doubt and my self esteem issues are at all time high as I can't help but compare myself to other guys who look like they know what their doing, and I look like a total amateur. Christ I'm even too intimidated to go to the weight room when it's full.
I know what you mean. I kind of felt that today but after talking to a few guys using the squat rack while I was waiting for them to finish, they're all really nice, supportive, and helpful.
Just remember that even if others look like they know what they're doing, they were in your position before. I'm sure they're willing to help you out if needed. Don't be discouraged or intimidated.

Doing Omar Isuf's beginner program; trying to have solid form and find what weight to use for my working sets, this is what I got so far today:
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Some middle-age-looking guy nose laughed when I picked up two DBs and a student pointed out I took one 10 lb and one 15 lb :lol What a noob move I made...
 

Cosmic Bus

pristine morning snow
When I started this journey I was under the impression that going to gym, training would help boost my confidence. Infact it's done the opposite as I'm plagued with self doubt and my self esteem issues are at all time high as I can't help but compare myself to other guys who look like they know what their doing, and I look like a total amateur. Christ I'm even too intimidated to go to the weight room when it's full.

Sorry for the rant. I guess I needed to vent.

You're not alone in feeling like this. I've had my membership for 3-4 weeks now and still don't have the confidence to even try using the free weights, racks, benches, etc. It's really, really difficult and intimidating for people just starting fresh.

I just use the machines for now in the hopes I'll get a little stronger and be able to eventually move on to better things. Considering I can't even get through a simple 3x5 routine in most cases without lowering the weight after each set (and even then, I'm lucky to hit 3 or 4 reps on that 3rd set), it's going to be a very long time.

Been trying to eat more on gym days, too, but it makes me feel so fat and uncomfortable. :\
 
I'm a beginner as well, so you aren't alone :) I only made one post here a few days ago. Did mostly calisthenics for about two months, hit the gym at my university today for the first time. Before starting calisthenics, I think I was only able to bench press 75lbs for like 5 reps.

Doing Omar Isuf's beginner program; trying to have solid form and find what weight to use for my working sets, this is what I got so far today:
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b492cc0cbc66ee3157659d367a2ba8eb.png

Some middle-age-looking guy nose laughed when I picked up two DBs and a student pointed out I took one 10 lb and one 15 lb :lol What a noob move I made...

Where's that pic from? And what does RM stand for?
 

Chocobro

Member
Where's that pic from? And what does RM stand for?

I'm using JEFIT to log my exercises and routines; you can sync everything and view it on the JEFIT website or on your smartphone using their app.

And like cuevas, PhD. said, 1RM = 1 rep max. The app seems to automatically calculate it for me.
 
Considering I can't even get through a simple 3x5 routine in most cases without lowering the weight after each set

Why are you dropping the weight as a beginner? Are you doing SS? You should start with a weight that is ridiculously easy. What weights are you trying on the barbell squat, bench and Overhead press?

Drop the machines, they are not doing you any favors
 
I'm using JEFIT to log my exercises and routines; you can sync everything and view it on the JEFIT website or on your smartphone using their app.

And like cuevas, PhD. said, 1RM = 1 rep max. The app seems to automatically calculate it for me.

Tell me more about this app and website?
 
Why are you dropping the weight as a beginner? Are you doing SS? You should start with a weight that is ridiculously easy. What weights are you trying on the barbell squat, bench and Overhead press?

Drop the machines, they are not doing you any favors

Yeah other than shoulder abd chest machines, I stick to mostly free weights and cables. Still, being a beginner in the weight room is awfully scary. Or maybe just for us low self esteemers.
 

Noema

Member
get your beginner ass to the OP and read the part about the wonder-program Starting Strength, geared and manufactured JUST for beginners.

Don't be afraid, it starts ridiculously easy. We were all beginners at some point

Listen to this man.

Seriously. SS is literally the most efficient, most effective way of spending time at the gym as a beginner. It's almost like an algorithm. It's pretty much warranted to work for everyone.

Anyone wanting to train with weights seriously who doesn't do SS for at least 4 months is doing a disservice to himself. .
 
For the beginners here, consider signing up to fitocracy and join the NeoGaf group. You can track your workouts, and theres a good social and rpg aspect to it as well.
 

Chocobro

Member
Tell me more about this app and website?

Sure, I'll try my best. Just a disclaimer, my experience with this is very very limited because I found out about it two days ago.
JEFIT has a database of exercises and routines made by users and the website owners, I think, to choose from or create yourself. They include 2-picture animations and an step-by-step instructions on how to do the exercise. Also tells you what muscle groups the exercise works. Good learning tool, in my opinion. So I'm following Omar Isuf's program that I posted in my older post here. What I would do on the JEFIT website is input Omar's program as a new routine (took a while because of the exercise names) then go on my smartphone to sync it. When you do your workout, you click on your routine, the day of the routine, and then the exercise. When you finish your set, input the amount of weight and reps you did, and click "save & rest", it'll then show you a countdown timer. When the timer goes to 0, it'll show you the exercise screen again so you can repeat the above. On your last set, when you click "save&rest", under the countdown timer, it'll show you your next exercise in the routine so you can prepare for that while resting.
You can also upload your progress pictures, add your body stats, set goals, and there may be more features I haven't used yet. Overall I think this is a pretty nice free service, worth a try in my opinion.

I either had to use a notebook/pen to log my exercises and bring/use a watch or use my phone to do everything. I'm just glad I'm disciplined enough to not start texting or browsing GAF while working out unlike some other people I see in the gym P:

EDIT: I apologize for taking so long to type my post. For me, it's easier to give people a visual demonstration as opposed to explaining in written form.
 
First day on "Keto" was kind of hard... didn't know mushrooms had so many carbs, and ate a bunch of them, that fucked me up good today. Also, almonds can have a lot of carbs. Another lesson learned:

Calories 2,674 (still a 320 deficit)
Carbs 54 (Still low carb)
Fat 217
Protein 156 (hitting it!)
Sodium 7,775
Magnesium 751

My lifts have suffered, but I understand that is a reality with life. As long as I don't lose too much, I'll be fine with it:

Squat 295x3x5 OK
Bench 195 4/3/2 Ugly
Chin ups 5/5/5 OK
 

abuC

Member
One arm lat pulldowns, why didn't you all put me onto this sooner?

Also had 78 carbs total today, I'm now starting to feel it a bit. In preparation of starting UD 2.0 I cut back on them last week, but this is my first time sub 100, and I dread going to the gym tomorrow.
 

ZeroRay

Member
This 7 day hiatus has made me soft, skinny(fat) and weak.

Still, there probably wouldn't have been a better time to have taken the week off, as Eid, dinner parties, my birthday celebration, and stomach problems have kept me plenty busy. I don't want to jinx it, but all the pains I had last Tuesday are much lower or completely gone.

Can't wait to get my ass under the bar again.
 

Cosmic Bus

pristine morning snow
Why are you dropping the weight as a beginner? Are you doing SS? You should start with a weight that is ridiculously easy. What weights are you trying on the barbell squat, bench and Overhead press?

Drop the machines, they are not doing you any favors

I lower it because I can't complete a 3x5 at one set weight. It's better to just stop rather than push on with a small reduction? This is usually starting around only 75lbs.

I'm not doing SS at this point because I can't handle the free weights yet. Without any health insurance, I'm terrified of injuring myself.
 
I'm not doing SS at this point because I can't handle the free weights yet. Without any health insurance, I'm terrified of injuring myself.

You can do a barbell squat with just the barbell? That's strength-wise on par with sitting down to pick up 3 or 4 heavy books from the floor. Don't be terrified of a barbell-only squat, it's a very safe movement at such low weights
 

Zoe

Member
You need to throw your ego out the door and just start with the empty bar on everything, even on deadlifts if you have to. Even if it seems too light, those 5-10lb increases per each workout add up really quickly.

I always force the bf to take off some weight when we do squats together because he doesn't do it with any sort of frequency (and I can't get him to do anything else other than bench). I'm sure it sucks not doing as much as me, but I'm not the one who has fallen on my ass doing squats before.
 

despire

Member
So I believe that the Periodization Bible template is/was used by many here for 5/3/1? At least some people often advocate it so I guess it's gud?

Why is there 5 sets for each assistance exercises? Seems pretty overkill. Anyway I was tinkering with the program just for fun (still trying to decide what to do when I start my slow bulk, lol). I dropped one set from each assistance, making it 4 sets. Because of this I added something little like curls etc.. How does it look?

DAY 1

*Press 5/3/1
*DB Press 4 x 10-20
*Pull-ups 4 x 10-20
*LTE 4 x 10-20
*Barbell Curl 4 x 10-20
*Side Laterals 4 x 10-20


DAY 2

*Deadlift 5/3/1
*Weighed Hyperextension 4 x 10-20 (or RDL)
*Leg Press 4 x 10-20
*Hanging Leg Raises 4 x 10-20
*Shrugs 4 x 10-20


DAY 3

*Incline Bench 5/3/1
*Flat DB Bench 4 x 10-20
*T-Bar Row 4 x 10-20
*LTE 4 x 10-20
*Incline DB Curl 4 x 10-20
*Face Pulls 4 x 10-20


DAY 4

*Squat 5/3/1
*RDL 4 x 10-20
*Leg Press 4 x 10-20
*Calf Raises 4 x 10-20
*Hanging Leg Raises 4 x 10-20
 
This 7 day hiatus has made me soft, skinny(fat) and weak.

Still, there probably wouldn't have been a better time to have taken the week off, as Eid, dinner parties, my birthday celebration, and stomach problems have kept me plenty busy. I don't want to jinx it, but all the pains I had last Tuesday are much lower or completely gone.

Can't wait to get my ass under the bar again.

haha it's not possible to lose so much muscle in such a little time. It's probably just water retention :p
 

agrajag

Banned
I lower it because I can't complete a 3x5 at one set weight. It's better to just stop rather than push on with a small reduction? This is usually starting around only 75lbs.

I'm not doing SS at this point because I can't handle the free weights yet. Without any health insurance, I'm terrified of injuring myself.

75lbs is too heavy for you. Start with the empty bar.
 

Nelo Ice

Banned
Listen to this man.

Seriously. SS is literally the most efficient, most effective way of spending time at the gym as a beginner. It's almost like an algorithm. It's pretty much warranted to work for everyone.

Anyone wanting to train with weights seriously who doesn't do SS for at least 4 months is doing a disservice to himself. .

Yup in June I was prolly doin like the bar or a a little more and now I'm working on 205 lb squats among other exercises where I've seen a ton of gains. Btw Noema you were right, took 10 mins of rest this time and now I'm resting to do my last set of 5 squats.

Edit: did 3x5 @ 205 lbs yes!.
 
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A More Normal Bird

Unconfirmed Member
Program? I dunno. Whatever program I like on bb.com.
I hear that all the time. I dunno if I believe it applies to me. I wish I had a gym buddy, honestly...

You're not alone in feeling like this. I've had my membership for 3-4 weeks now and still don't have the confidence to even try using the free weights, racks, benches, etc. It's really, really difficult and intimidating for people just starting fresh.

I just use the machines for now in the hopes I'll get a little stronger and be able to eventually move on to better things. Considering I can't even get through a simple 3x5 routine in most cases without lowering the weight after each set (and even then, I'm lucky to hit 3 or 4 reps on that 3rd set), it's going to be a very long time.

Been trying to eat more on gym days, too, but it makes me feel so fat and uncomfortable. :\

This may be a little blunt as generally I kind of hate this sort of motivational talk, but I'm going to tell you both right now that the way to feel more comfortable about yourself and training isn't to avoid commitment and waste your time doing nonsense. The correlation between people who laugh at someone squatting an empty bar and people who will be out-lifted by that same person in a matter of months is generally quite high. Everybody has to start from somewhere. If you go in and do the right thing, even if it means swallowing your ego and lifting very light weights, anyone whose opinion is worth caring about will respect, not mock you for it.

I won't bore you with my entire training history but the long and short of it is this. When I first started strength training properly, I was coming off a bout of illness that left me weighing about 60kg at 6'2" (btw Noema, if you're reading this, I don't know what sort of crazy beans you have in your country but having seen your pic you are now forbidden from using the word "beanpole" to describe yourself). I was weak, work frequently left me fatigued and I had dysfunctional motor patterns and mobility problems stemming from childhood illnesses which kept me from doing even a bodyweight squat. About the only advantages I had were that I was young and that I knew I had plenty of room for improvement. So I did my research and began to make slow and steady progress, not caring about who was bigger or stronger or what people who didn't know what they were talking about thought. Fast forward to now and even if I know I could be much more consistent or not let injuries or poor health sidetrack me so easily I can take some measure of pride (and a larger measure of confidence) in the progress I have made. You're not going to know what sort of progress you're capable of until you go for it; and once you do that progress will serve as a reminder for any future goals you may have that no snide laughter or intimidating inanimate lumps of mass produced metal can take from you.

To Cosmic Bus, if you can't hit 3x5 without lowering the weight, start with a lower weight to begin with. Also, don't think of a rep/set scheme as "simple". Someone who has put in a number of months on a 'simple' routine such as starting strength will have achieved a lot more doing one day's worth of 3x5 squats than a curl bro successfully negotiating his dumbbell biceps 21 reverse pyramid matrix drop sets one handed (the other hand is holding that month's issue of muscle and fitness for quick reference).

To SpaceBridge (incidentally, your names are eerily similar), what do you mean by the part I bolded in your post? If you think "marathon not a race" doesn't apply to you, you're dead wrong. It applies to everyone and for that matter, to almost any endeavour one can undertake. If you want to learn the piano, you go and get lessons or get some sort of instructional material, you don't just keep humming along to the radio in the hopes that you'll somehow improve because you're worried what people might think if they heard you practising.
 

Rookje

Member
I'm thinking about doing Wendlers for my bulk this fall. Is there any downsides to Wendlers? Why doesn't everyone do it?
 
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A More Normal Bird

Unconfirmed Member
I'm thinking about doing Wendlers for my bulk this fall. Is there any downsides to Wendlers? Why doesn't everyone do it?
5/3/1? Lots of people do do it, there are quite a few in this thread who have done it or are doing it. But no program is all things to all people. For example I was doing something that was pretty close to it but have switched to Texas Method to focus on bringing my squat back up after an injury layoff. 5/3/1 is great if you're bulking, because you can tailor it towards a number of different goals and the intensity is very manipulable.
 

Boogie9IGN

Member
What would be the best instructional video on deadlifts? I always skip them in my routines because I am honestly absolutely terrified of them. I'm starting to feel more and more comfortable at the gym in general and I think I'm ready to finally try them.

This is my current routine for reference:

Incline Dumbbell Bench Press
Barbell Bench Press
Cable Crossover
Dumbbell Fly
Chest Dip

Barbell Bent Over Row
Close Grip Lat Pull Down
Wide Grip Lat Pull Down
Cable Seated Row
Seated Calf Raise
Standing Calf Raise

Leg Extension
Barbell Squat
Leg Press
Dumbbell Lunge
Lying Leg Curl

Dumbbell Shoulder Press
Seated Barbell Press
Front Dumbbell Raise
Dumbbell Shrug
Behind the Back Barbell Shrug

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Madness

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What would be the best instructional video on deadlifts? I always skip them in my routines because I am honestly absolutely terrified of them. I'm starting to feel more and more comfortable at the gym in general and I think I'm ready to finally try them.

I'd post what videos I watched when I started but FitGAF regulars would probably laugh lol.

It's one of the most daunting things to do at the gym, when I first started deadlifts, I was afraid people would criticize my form, the fact I was this fat chubby guy, weakling struggling to do just a plate on each side etc.

Just youtube proper deadlift form, watch as many as possible, get a reference point of proper form, technique, etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RpZ0IWIg2w&feature=player_embedded

Saw this deadlift video recently. Guys around 165 and is dead lifting 500+ for 10 reps. Crazy strength.
 
First day on "Keto" was kind of hard... didn't know mushrooms had so many carbs, and ate a bunch of them, that fucked me up good today. Also, almonds can have a lot of carbs. Another lesson learned:

Calories 2,674 (still a 320 deficit)
Carbs 54 (Still low carb)
Fat 217
Protein 156 (hitting it!)
Sodium 7,775
Magnesium 751

My lifts have suffered, but I understand that is a reality with life. As long as I don't lose too much, I'll be fine with it:

Squat 295x3x5 OK
Bench 195 4/3/2 Ugly
Chin ups 5/5/5 OK

Not here for 'fitness' (yet), but: what do you use to track your diet data?
(nutriondata.com gives only 4-5 carbs per 100 grams of white mushroom, for instance)

I'm exploring the possibility to 'go keto' for a while, but I find myself cheating a bit too much and lacking some neat tool to keep track of everything.
Mainly because I fucking love fruit and dessert (yogurt, actually). :(

Don't care about the common sources of carbs though, so I'm already 'low carb', but just not low enough to do keto (somewhere around 100 grams of carbs max).
 

Nelo Ice

Banned
So at the gym last night I ran into one of the gym buddies I've talked to before. We discussed squats before and he mentioned how his knees hurt. I showed him a vid of me doing squats properly and explained to him how I learned and what to do. He told me that after that he tried squats and got low and he had no knee pain and felt it working all the right muscles. Was so glad to see my advice actually helped someone and I'm still a newb!.
 

Petrie

Banned
I believe I started posting in OT2. I still remember SeanR and Falling edge starting off. Some interesting posts to show how far we've come ;)

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=28114689&postcount=19995
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=27962382&postcount=19725
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=27970328&postcount=19743
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=27158155&postcount=18777

KILL ME if falling edge is still benching 185 ;)


Yup. This is the type of thing that old threads are great for. I showed up here a few months after that.


I mean fuck, look what I started out like in here:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=29487830&postcount=2279

before I got a quick education and found me the OP:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=29489107&postcount=2286

I'm going to be rereading these threads all day now. Thanks guys.


On a side note, I decided to try "real" IF again yesterday after my weekend binge, and it really isn't hard to just eat one 500 calorie or so meal in a 24+ hour period. I never felt truly hungry despite the length of time, and even this morning I am fine and ready to go. Woke up a bit tired but I believe that's unrelated. I'm considering giving it a try if I can get it to work with my schedule (meaning if I find a day where my g/f doesn't expect to eat together, as my relationship is more important than any weird diet!)
 

Petrie

Banned
What kinda routine do I need to do to get to be as handsome as Cooter?

From what he posts?

Deadlift heavy 6 times a week.

Squat heavy on recovery days in between sets of muscle-ups with a small child strapped to you.

Bench press all the weight, all of them, daily.

OHP boulders and such for funsies.

Repeat as desired.
 
From what he posts?

Deadlift heavy 6 times a week.

Squat heavy on recovery days in between sets of muscle-ups with a small child strapped to you.

Bench press all the weight, all of them, daily.

OHP boulders and such for funsies.

Repeat as desired.
I GOT DIS

EDIT: So I have settled on my goal for the fall/winter. I am going to bulk agian, maybe 5/3/1, but I may just go back to a more bodybuilding focused routine like I used to do. I want to add 10 more lbs, or die trying. When cut down it should put me at about 195 @ 9%. I honestly think I can do it, but we'll see.

Also planning to get some belts and shit. I would really like to try and join the muscle-up race.

Anyway, I'll have more details in a month or so. I know, long time from now, but right now there are other things I'm preparing for (vanity...).
 
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