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[Suikoguy]

There is absentee voting.

It requires an excuse. It's looking like this will be very close at the minimum.

Clinton is up 10 points in Fayette County with almost 50% reporting. Was expected to be a Sanders county.
In my writeup I mentioned Fayette was a must win for Sanders to win the state. If he loses it, he will be forced to make it up in less fav

 

[Avon Barksdale]

Donald "Tough on Wall Street" Trump would dismantle Dodd-Frank.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-exclusive-idUSKCN0Y82JO

#ButHesReallyALiberalYouSee

 

[Aaron Strife]

Its been over for months, and this past week has finally started showing the financial and campaign staff abandonment part of a campaign winding down, but its happening with a month to go with a candidate who really has no reason to care about party unity (which is the opposite issue that Hilary had in 2008, she was THE life long democratic candidate being forced to step down for the new during a tense primary season). I hope to be proven wrong, but I expect sanders to continue to be stalwart till the bitter end before conceding, how he concedes is anyone's guess at this point but my hunch is it won't be a unity speech among democratic supporters, but a unity speech among progressive ideals and to keep the good fight going forward, he exits the stage and doesn't campaign for anyone during the GE and goes back to being the independent socialist senator from Vermont, the exact opposite reaction that Hilary got praised for during the DNC nominating convention in 2008.

I would love to be proven wrong as a good concession speech would at least return some integrity to Sanders that I used to have. I actually liked him as a senator before he even announced his campaign and wanted him in the race because I found him to be a positive influence, but he hasn't been the messenger I was expecting/hoping him to be.

Yeah. I supported Sanders because I genuinely believed him to be an honest guy thanks to (what I perceived as) his status as a small state senator insulating him from most political concerns. He was allowed to speak his mind and vote his heart, even when that didn't always line up with my own political beliefs, and I respected that. I don't hold anything against Hillary for being a politician and doing politician things, just because I know you need to play the game, but it was nice to have a candidate who seemed like he was above most of it.

Up until probably the March 15 primaries I would have said his candidacy was an indisputable good for the race and the party, even if I never thought he could win. After that though he just jumped the shark and revealed much of himself to be the kind of politician he railed against - petty, opportunistic.

I think I still like him somewhat, but only as an ideal. Like it really sucks that he (or someone like him) can't realistically be expected to get elected anytime soon, but if Hillary is the worst we can do we're in pretty good shape. I actually quite like her! I think it's more the base that I've grown to despise - this absolutist, extremist, constant purity test bullshit is a cancer on the party and the process. And ultimately, when a candidate has won by over 3 million votes, it's time to fold. Instead people are acting like Hillary is the one who needs to bargain.

 

[Spoiled Milk]

I'm busy gambling on elections so new thread's up

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=203948445#post203948445

 

[Iolo]

It requires an excuse. It's looking like this will be very close at the minimum.

Hmm, sounds like AP called it for Clinton and retracted it. Error, or forgetting not all polls are closed yet?

Or FRAUD?

 

[Aaron Strife]

It requires an excuse. It's looking like this will be very close at the minimum.

Oh shit!

Feeling ok about that +6 in KY earlier. We'll see about OR.

 

[NeoXChaos]

Benchmark Politics ‏@benchmarkpol 2m2 minutes ago
AP called for Clinton and retracted, probably after realizing not all polls were closed!

lol

Nate CohnVerified account
‏@Nate_Cohn
Clinton is up 54-44 in Lexington's Fayette County with 45% reporting. A strong sign for her.

Matthew Isbell ‏@mcimaps 8m8 minutes ago
Matthew Isbell Retweeted Nate Cohn
Very good for her. A tie would have been decent for her.

 

[Bronx-Man]

Hmm, sounds like AP called it for Clinton and retracted it. Error, or forgetting not all polls are closed yet?

Or FRAUD?

Time for the AP's indictment.

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

I'm thinking of starting a #DropOutBernie thread, making the case for him to stop after today. I am genuinely curious what benefit he has continuing if Nevada is any sign.

 

[Teggy]

This early Clinton lead in KY is weird since there is no early voting.

I thought half the polls had closed, wouldnt it be those?

 

[NeoXChaos]

I thought half the polls had closed, wouldnt it be those?

the other half close in 22 minutes. FYI that unbinding NE primary was a closed primary.

 

[Iolo]

I thought half the polls had closed, wouldnt it be those?

He is saying that the margin is higher than expected since it was supposed to be very close, and Hillary usually leads with early votes.

 

[pigeon]

I'm thinking of starting a #DropOutBernie thread, making the case for him to stop after today. I am genuinely curious what benefit he has continuing if Nevada is any sign.

There's approximately zero chance that thread doesn't get immediately locked today. Maybe if we can go like 48 hours without crazy news shit.

 

[B-Dubs]

lol

FRAUD

 

[Teggy]

He is saying that the margin is higher than expected since it was supposed to be very close, and Hillary usually leads with early votes.

Ah, I see

 

[Suikoguy]

Ah, I see

Yeah, early voting skews early results quite badly as they are typically counted right as the polls close.
This is one of the handful states that has no form of it.

 

[Cerium]

Please don't make it GG related jokes, that invites all kinds of fuckery and this thread is over it's daily intake of fuckery. Shit ain't healthy.

It's not a joke. It's a statement against harassment.

 

[Dominican Power]

So Clinton can officially win the nomination tonight?

 

[B-Dubs]

So Clinton can officially win the nomination tonight?

She'd need about 140 delegates to pull it off.

 

[mo60]

So Clinton can officially win the nomination tonight?

No unless she wins all the delegates even though that is not even enough to put her over the top and/or about 80-100 superdelegates decide to support her tonight along with getting around 50+ delegates in both states tonight.

 

[metalslimer]

After what happened, I can definitely see supers looking to wrap this shit up quickly and just ending it.

 

[Iolo]

So Clinton can officially win the nomination tonight?

No, but you may see supers start declaring for her between now and CA.

 

[RustyNails]

Has Lexington started reporting?

 

[eBay Huckster]

Has Lexington started reporting?

it's actually done reporting already, if DDHQ is any indication

clinton won it by 7%

 

[danm999]

After what happened, I can definitely see supers looking to wrap this shit up quickly and just ending it.

Yeah it's not like they've been given a lot of reasons to keep sitting out or back Sanders the past few days.

 

[Ziltoidia 9]

No one officially has the nom until the convention.

Don't get mad, thats the way the system was set up.

 

[metalslimer]

No one officially has the nom until the convention.

Don't get mad, thats the way the system was set up.

No one will care that supers could magically switch if Hilary hits the number. The race will pretty much officially be declared over.

 

[eBay Huckster]

I officially have the nom and I'm gonna concede it to Clinton in three weeks

 

[danm999]

No one officially has the nom until the convention.

Don't get mad, thats the way the system was set up.

I mean, the President isn't actually elected until the Electoral College votes in December either.

 

[Iolo]

I mean, the President isn't actually elected until the Electoral College votes in December either.

Do not give them any ideas

 

[3phemeral]

After what happened, I can definitely see supers looking to wrap this shit up quickly and just ending it.

I don't know, would a sweeping SD announcement favoring Hillary make any difference or just further enrage those already-rabid supporters shouting conspiracy and collusion?

 

[HUELEN10]

I mean, the President isn't actually elected until the Electoral College votes in December either.

That's right, but people are too quick to forget.

Gore should have stood his ground in 2000.

 

[hawk2025]

I don't know, would a sweeping SD announcement favoring Hillary make any difference or just further enrage those already-rabid supporters shouting conspiracy and collusion?

At this point I assume the ones that are this mad are seeing red no matter what happens.


At which point I say: Who gives a fuck?

 

[Rebel Leader]

Big leap in votes for Clinton

 

[Y2Kev]

Correct. Drag them, supadelegates

 

[Y2Kev]

Hmm, sounds like AP called it for Clinton and retracted it. Error, or forgetting not all polls are closed yet?

Or FRAUD?

Error because there are no exit polls.

 

[RustyNails]

If Jefferson county holds Birdie is doomed 😃

Big leap in votes for Clinton

Where you seeing this?

 

[royalan]

At this point I assume the ones that are this mad are seeing red no matter what happens.


At which point I say: Who gives a fuck?

Bingo.

No outcome short of Bernie getting the nom will placate the angry people. Bernie has seeded the narrative that anything else is a manifestation of fraud.

I was all for Hillary and the DNC being patient and letting this all play out, but that was under the foolish assumption that Bernie would eventually put on his big boy britches, accept defeat gracefully and play along. Now that it's clear that he won't, they really ought to nip this shit in the bud before it has had time manifest into something that really could hurt in November.

Man, who REALLY would have thought that Republicans would have their shit wrapped up and be on their way to unification while the dems descend into chaos? Shit's embarrassing, and really displays the liberal tendency to be our own worst enemy...

 

[Black Mamba]

Nate Cohn now thinks the numbers indicate Clinton takes Ky. Something like 4-8 points.

 

[sc0la]

Hmm, sounds like AP called it for Clinton and retracted it. Error, or forgetting not all polls are closed yet?

Or FRAUD?

Fraudmentum

Fuck there is a new thread? :/ I always miss this

 

[Effect]

Why do numbers on TV like MSNBC differ so much from places like Decision Desk at the same percentage reporting?

 

[thefro]

Why do numbers on TV like MSNBC differ so much from places like Decision Desk at the same percentage reporting?

Decision Desk has about +3000 votes for Clinton in Lexington, KY, but doesn't have all the #s from the Appalachian counties that the AP does.

 

[itschris]

So it's looking like Kentucky's going to be a small Clinton win, margin possibly up to 3%.

Nate Cohn
‏@Nate_Cohn

47 counties done, Clinton running a bit ahead of demog. If she keeps it up in the cities / west, she'd by 2/3

Benchmark Politics
‏@benchmarkpol

I'm finding the same thing as @Nate_Cohn - Clinton is doing a bit better than Demos, race within about 3%.

 

[catmincer]

Kentucky is stressing me out. I know realistically the race is over but still I wanna see her win another state.

I got sent home from work for being sick so I can see Oregon live too.

 

[Paskil]

I just had Five Guys with a drink. Not those five guys, gays. Glad to see that it is likely a Hillary win in Kentucky. If she can squeak out a win in Oregon, this will have been an incredibly satisfying day.

 

[itschris]

One funny streak has been broken - Hillary finally won a county named Clinton:

 

[theprodigy]

One funny streak has been broken - Hillary finally won a county named Clinton:

NOOOO

 

[Teggy]

If Hillary wins Kentucky and not Oregon it's just going to be more "she just wins red states."

 

[Y2Kev]

Kim Davis wants Hillary to win and be free




From prison