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PoliGAF 2016 |OT5| Archdemon Hillary Clinton vs. Lice Traffic Jam
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No. No mountains near the coast. Canadians come to our beaches in the winter to swim.
nature boy
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He really has no shame.
brainchild
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There are hours of stalling that wasn't recorded, but I saw the majority of what happened when the body was assembled and in order, according to the scheduling of the agenda as laid out by the state party.
And I should add that I've reviewed what is currently available online (that I know of). If there is more footage, I would be more than happy to review it.
Most of us poke in there and drop a couple words every now and then. I'll be on for sure.
lol make due with what you can I guess.
eBay Huckster
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people can come in and chat if they feel like it, i guess
i thought they cut holes in ice to swim during the winter, on account of all canadians literally being polar bears
eBay Huckster
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on an unrelated note:
has anyone been paying attention to Al Giordano's Twitter lately?
apparently he's mulling over challenging Sanders in 2018
has anyone been paying attention to Al Giordano's Twitter lately?
apparently he's mulling over challenging Sanders in 2018
Orbis Tabula
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But, like, if you had to choose between delegates being awarded correctly, and making sure Roberts Rules of Order were adhered to, which is more important.
100% agree on "gimme a primary" though. Caucus are a messy fat big thing.
Black Mamba
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It's 2016 and we still use delegates in our primaries/elections.
This is so fucking antiquated.
Could you imagine if my fantasy football league had delegates sent to a convention in order to vote on rule changes!?!?
Why do we even bother with this shit. We know the vote. Affirm the results, put it on computer, be done with it.
This is so fucking antiquated.
Could you imagine if my fantasy football league had delegates sent to a convention in order to vote on rule changes!?!?
Why do we even bother with this shit. We know the vote. Affirm the results, put it on computer, be done with it.
I'm more talking about the motion to change the rules of the convention from the temporary ones to the rules the Sanders' supporters wanted.
Yes, the rules of order were not followed correctly, but the rules the Sanders' supporters were in favor of would have not passed given the split in representation and the chair's final say in deciding the outcome of a voice vote.
I'm just struggling to see how you can take a "both sides were bad" stance when the conduct of the state party, though improper, had no bearing on the results. No rules would have been different nor delegate counts changed had the state party followed the rules of order correctly.
User 463088
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I assume something pretty gay. I'll hop on after work probably.
I tend to think that if Sanders pitches a huge fight at the convention the DNC will probably run somebody against him in 2018. This is probably a trial balloon.
Cock uses are indeed big, fat, and messy.
I'd get behind that 100%. Caucuses are a mess!
brainchild
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The former of course, but only in a perfect world where correct is absolute and not subjective. I do not approve of the unilateral rulings of a body when the structure of the body is supposed to be governed by the body.
In other words, if the decision were left up to me, I'd choose the former. If not, I'd choose the latter.
User 85168
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People chat there every night
You and me both brah.
I saw that. I think it's a fool's errand, but.
brainchild
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It's a matter of principle. That the outcome was correct is merely coincidental. With the way the rules were manipulated, it could have just as easily favored Bernie and that would have been just as wrong.
eBay Huckster
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User 463088
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Screw it!
Doug Johnson Hatlem's, from CounterPunch, just concluded six part investigation on possible election fraud in this year's Democratic primaries, is too juicy to sit on (an interesting read), which even includes an interview with lead Edison exit pollster, Joe Lenski, Executive Vice-President and lead researcher for Edison Research, and will you look at that, the article even highlights the NY election oddity I wrote about the [post=202315457]other day[/post]:
Unless someone else beats me to the punch, I'll probably follow up with a post that highlights the most interesting points, but the fact that the Republican primaries are not exhibiting the same wide difference between the exit poll results and the recorded vote is possibly quite telling.
Doug Johnson Hatlem's, from CounterPunch, just concluded six part investigation on possible election fraud in this year's Democratic primaries, is too juicy to sit on (an interesting read), which even includes an interview with lead Edison exit pollster, Joe Lenski, Executive Vice-President and lead researcher for Edison Research, and will you look at that, the article even highlights the NY election oddity I wrote about the [post=202315457]other day[/post]:
Unless someone else beats me to the punch, I'll probably follow up with a post that highlights the most interesting points, but the fact that the Republican primaries are not exhibiting the same wide difference between the exit poll results and the recorded vote is possibly quite telling.
whyamihere
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Scream it to the heavens
This just seems like a situation where a person running down the street knocks someone over and in response a gun in drawn. Yes, everyone involved did something wrong but one person is clearly much more in the wrong.
We're talking death threats, obscenities, violence and threats of violence versus following rules in a way that, though improper, in no way changed the outcome.
If the representation wasn't so split I think you might have a point. If it were 80/20 Sanders and everything that could favor Clinton did favor Clinton then yeah, there'd be room for some anger (though still not death threats). But that isn't what happened.
The DNC is probably going to find a way to make sure that doesn't happen at the convention. They may try to get both the Hilary and Bernie campaign teams together right after the primaries and try to figure out what happens at the convention and to possibly reconcile their differences. I'm probably being optimistic about this but I expect something like that to happen before the convention unless Bernie decides to support her after the June 7th primaries.
And lol at trump's plan to rehabilitate his public image. It's not going to work.Trump has a history of acting the way those recently released SuperPAC described.
The man can't even do a denouncing statement paragraph without writing a fucking conspiracy over bullet holes and break-ins from months ago on the same paragraph.
How do you "reconcile differences" with that kind of thinking?
Beer Monkey
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And the hits keep coming. A third northern KY friend complaining about being disenfranchised. She says on FB (paraphrased): "WTF I changed my registration 15 years ago to (R) so I could vote for a friend that was running for a lower office. Tried to vote in the (D) primary today and got turned away!".
All I hear is well I haven't voted in a primary in 15 years so I shouldn't be voting anyway and have no right to complain about not being able to spread the Bern.
You don't participate for a decade and a half and now and now all of a sudden you care because of some bullshit cult of personality? You're part of the problem.
All I hear is well I haven't voted in a primary in 15 years so I shouldn't be voting anyway and have no right to complain about not being able to spread the Bern.
You don't participate for a decade and a half and now and now all of a sudden you care because of some bullshit cult of personality? You're part of the problem.
Cesare Borgia
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Obsession over exit polls really highlights that you guys haven't paid a lick of attention to politics or polls until this election.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
So Brainchild, about this:
https://www.scribd.com/doc/312952650/nsdp
In particular:
Can't post text, as the OCR was terrible.
https://www.scribd.com/doc/312952650/nsdp
In particular:
Can't post text, as the OCR was terrible.
Really? This is PollGAF you are talking about. They knew Romney was losing before Rmoney.
Didn't everyone though?
That statement was awful and made me not like sanders that much anymore. I think that is something the DNC may try unless both camps do it after the June 7th because I don't think the DNC wants their convention to be too chaotic and/or violent like the Nevada Democratic caucus that was held over the weekend.
Ignore DanielB, it's better for your health.
User 85168
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Everyone but the Romney campaign and Karl Rove
plagiarize
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Sanders has at every turn refused to work with the DNC. He has continually criticized them whenever things haven't gone his way. He has shown zero ability to either force them into doing what he wants, or meeting them in the middle to come up with something equitable.
And he thinks he'd be able to get shit done with the Republican party?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
And he thinks he'd be able to get shit done with the Republican party?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Cesare Borgia
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No I'm talking about Bernie folks, specifically that post about "fraud."
Seems like an entire movement built around the assumption that political parties should completely appease to outsiders and that black people do not exist (outside of three black people who endorsed Sanders of course).
metalslimer
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I mean if you look at his record it seems like this was pretty what he did in congress as well.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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brainchild
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The problem with this analogy is that you cannot assume that all of the dissenting Sanders delegates resorts to violence after the convention. During the convention, the amount of people yelling obscenities was very, very small. That doesn't make their actions acceptable, but there is a difference in the people who responded during the convention and afterward. And we don't even know how many of the extremists were delegates at the convention anyway.
User 85168
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Kentucky results in 40 min, right?
Tranqueris
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I'd love to say that Angie Morelli probably won't be receiving death threats and sexist insults because of that simple statement but...
Part of the state polls close in 38 minutes, other parts close at 7pm EST.
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