Go_Ly_Dow
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Am I wrong in thinking he needs to take the bar lower to his chest?
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Am I wrong in thinking he needs to take the bar lower to his chest?
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
His depth is fine, it only needs to hit lower sternum. His arch and leg drive need work though.
HisshouBuraiKen
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Starvation mode and absolute minimum "don't cross this line or u die" calorie levels are both kind of bullshit (short light females may need to go below that) but there IS truth to the fact that at some point you simply won't have the room to eat enough food to provide your body the vitamins, minerals, and other essential MICROnutrients it needs, to say nothing of protein for maintaining muscle and the essential fatty acids (omega 3s). And dieting tends to uncounsciously lower non-exercise activity thermogenesis, moreso as calories are more and more restricted.
Anything more extreme than The Rapid Fat Loss Handbook (which I and several people here have done) is just setting yourself up for more misery and no better results.
Any suggestions on what to fix?
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Cool, I'll play around with it.
I used to just flop flat. Then I worked on arching. Now I'm trying to combine it with leg drive. It's definitely a tough thing to learn
CherryWoodFuton
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FallingEdge
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heh, i will post one tonight for you bb <3
Host Samurai
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I use to go on 2 week crash diets in the middle of the summer when I was in college. It would shred me the fuck up but I would gain it back within a month or 2. Its not sustainable by any means
Allforce
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Something clicked in my head over the last week and I finally decide to get right with my diet plus exercise. I'm not completely out of shape, but I'm pushing 212-215 most days and I'm 6"1. I'd like to lose 20-25 lbs over the next 6 months and then re-evaluate.
I've basically done a lot of research on low carb/high fat diets and am attempting this, but it's a big shock the kinds of things that are off limits. That said I've concocted some interesting things to eat this week so I guess I need some affirmation that I'm eating the right things.
Some examples:
Wed:
Breakfast - 2 egg omelet cooked in butter, small amount of shredded cheese
Lunch - Green leaf salad with cucumbers, cut carrots, onions, tomatoes, and some deli meat chicken sliced up. Small amount of Italian dressing
Dinner - Scrambled eggs and one small pancake. no syrup, butter only.
Thur:
Breakfast - 3 egg omelet, small amount of cheese
Lunch - 2 veggie-burger patties, gouda cheese, and homemade salsa on top
Dinner - Corned beef sandwich on wheat bread. Celery sticks with hummus.
Snacks are mostly some grapes here and there, and salted peanuts.
Am I off to a good start or is this just silly? I know the bread is bad but I have to eat SOME carbs and I want to stay around 50-100 per day. Or should I just be avoiding ALL carbs at the start here?
Thanks for any advice!
I've basically done a lot of research on low carb/high fat diets and am attempting this, but it's a big shock the kinds of things that are off limits. That said I've concocted some interesting things to eat this week so I guess I need some affirmation that I'm eating the right things.
Some examples:
Wed:
Breakfast - 2 egg omelet cooked in butter, small amount of shredded cheese
Lunch - Green leaf salad with cucumbers, cut carrots, onions, tomatoes, and some deli meat chicken sliced up. Small amount of Italian dressing
Dinner - Scrambled eggs and one small pancake. no syrup, butter only.
Thur:
Breakfast - 3 egg omelet, small amount of cheese
Lunch - 2 veggie-burger patties, gouda cheese, and homemade salsa on top
Dinner - Corned beef sandwich on wheat bread. Celery sticks with hummus.
Snacks are mostly some grapes here and there, and salted peanuts.
Am I off to a good start or is this just silly? I know the bread is bad but I have to eat SOME carbs and I want to stay around 50-100 per day. Or should I just be avoiding ALL carbs at the start here?
Thanks for any advice!
This video is great, you always provide great info, dude!
The link is broken though, due to an extra bracket, here's one that works:
http://youtu.be/BYKScL2sgCs
edit: the most helpful part for me was finding the sweet spot with your feet placement in order to apply force with your legs without your butt lifting off the bench. I've never really understood what it means to apply force through leg drive. Can't wait to try this out.
Perfect thanks. I really like Alan's videos
That I knew from Dave Tate. It makes a nice difference.
Going to try this. I am concerned if I'm strong enough to do that with a lot of weight (for me) on the bar.
BruceLeeRoy
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Oh yeah these are great videos. I use this guy all the time for first timers and even guys that have benched for a long time. Awesome principles. A proper bench press and pull up will save your shoulders for life. I am going for more of a body building look so I have had to adapt it to allow a bit more stretch for my chest for growth but it really is great.
ipitydatfu
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my diet is holding me back. goddamn inconsistent work schedules
TheFightingFish
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I'm going to go ahead be a little less shy and finally put up a progress pic for myself. My goals are a bit different in that I love cardio work, so I'm always going to be keeping a close eye on any bulk that I put on and keeping my overall weight lower. Also, I fully agree with the OP in regards to the importance of barbell training in a gym, but it's just not something that I find fun (or that I find the time for) so I just do body weight work.
I don't have any dramatic before / after pictures, but about 2-3 years ago I started to get a bit pudgy moving into my late 20s (I wrestled before then, so I used to be a rail) so I picked up trail running. I got really into trail running up to doing an ultramarathon, but I realized that I was starting to actually not like the way that I looked as I was too skinny and shedding both muscle and fat. So this last year I moved into a balance of running less (and less super long distances in particular) while trying to add in a planned body weight progression. I feel like it's headed in the direction that I want so if next summer I can be at about the same BF% but 5-10 lbs heavier then I'll be a happy camper.
I don't have any dramatic before / after pictures, but about 2-3 years ago I started to get a bit pudgy moving into my late 20s (I wrestled before then, so I used to be a rail) so I picked up trail running. I got really into trail running up to doing an ultramarathon, but I realized that I was starting to actually not like the way that I looked as I was too skinny and shedding both muscle and fat. So this last year I moved into a balance of running less (and less super long distances in particular) while trying to add in a planned body weight progression. I feel like it's headed in the direction that I want so if next summer I can be at about the same BF% but 5-10 lbs heavier then I'll be a happy camper.
Go_Ly_Dow
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was really low on my calorie intake today due to missing breakfast and not taking much food to work so just blitzed together a shake of 500ml full milk, 2-3 tablespoons of peanut butter and a full scoop for choc whey. downed it in two.
so sickly it gave me a massive shiver...but what must be done must be done!
oh right so the bar doesn't need to touch the chest?
so sickly it gave me a massive shiver...but what must be done must be done!
oh right so the bar doesn't need to touch the chest?
CherryWoodFuton
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I dont know it it was Chocobro (he always provides awesome form videos) or someone else that posted Alan Thrall's How to Squat but yea that vid I def recommend.
Any help?
BruceLeeRoy
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Overall looks good to me. There are some minor things you could tighten up but that will happen naturally as your body becomes more accustomed to the movement.
Being tall you might have to spread your stance a bit more to allow for a deeper squat.
perineumlick
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I think your stance should be wider. That could be why you aren't going past parallel. Other than that I don't see anything that really stands out.
Edit - Beaten by The Glow, lol.
Yeah that was the first one that really clicked with me.
Id probably put Alan as one of my favorite fitness YouTube personalities.
Moral Panic
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Thx whoever sent me those OHP videos, definitely felt a dramatic difference today in the gym.
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Deleted member 17706
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So, I started focusing on a calisthenics routine after reading Convict Conditioning a couple of weeks ago, and I gotta say, this stuff seems legit. Maybe it's just my body responding to it much better than weight training, but progress seems to be coming quickly. Doing it almost daily for around 30-or-so sessions and I quickly find myself getting better at the exercises.
Still have a long ways to go before I'm doing one-arm handstand pushups, but I find myself really enjoying this body weight stuff. I haven't hit the weights in a while, but I feel like I've actually gained strength. I think I'll put it to the test in a few months by trying to set some new PRs to see if this strength translates to lifting heavy objects.
Still have a long ways to go before I'm doing one-arm handstand pushups, but I find myself really enjoying this body weight stuff. I haven't hit the weights in a while, but I feel like I've actually gained strength. I think I'll put it to the test in a few months by trying to set some new PRs to see if this strength translates to lifting heavy objects.
This time next year I expect to see some video of you walking down the street on your hands! =)
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Deleted member 17706
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That would be awesome! Right now I'm working on doing crow stands (image not me):
I couldn't do them at all a week ago, but now I'm up to around 20~30 seconds before I lose my balance. The progression goal is a full two minutes, so I still have a way to go.
I couldn't do them at all a week ago, but now I'm up to around 20~30 seconds before I lose my balance. The progression goal is a full two minutes, so I still have a way to go.
Any thoughts on this workout? I've been super slack about lifting since late May due to a physically demanding summer internship but I want to jump back on the horse with a 4 day upper/lower program. http://www.aworkoutroutine.com/the-muscle-building-workout-routine/
Very cool. I've also been doing some basic calisthenics, though as a supplement to weight bearing exercises. My goal is more humble - I want to be able to do a basic pull-up for reps. I'd be tickled to reach a set of 8. Yesterday I set a PR of 5 unassisted chin-ups.
Definitely post progress videos/photos/thoughts as you proceed!
CherryWoodFuton
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Arrowgigantic
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Your shoulders appear to be directly over the bar, they should be a little ahead of the bar. That and keeping your chest up will put your spine in its natural state and keep it from rounding. Also I don't know anything about how to use belts but it seems like yours is up too high? *shrug*
I skipped my post workout protein shake and Red Bull today. Instead I made a fantastic bowl of 2 cups of Greek yogurt, 2 scoops of chocolate mint protein, and a half cup of bran buds! Check this out... 680 calories. 110 gs of protein. 20 gs of fiber. But most importantly, it tastes delicious!
I went to work today but didn't feel well enough to go gym still. It feels like there is a delighful little spiky snails living in my throat. This whole thing hasn't been not at all that bad though and I did find my new favourite tea kind product. Pukka - Three Cinnamon hot drink is the best ever. It actually tastes what is smells like so if you love cinnamon as much as I do I can quarantee you will really love this one. I recommend everyone to try! It is so awesome for all the moments when I am having a sweet tooth. 
Also since I didn't go to gym I had time to meet up with my seamstress. I have quite many clothes I have been waiting for her to sew smaller for me. Also she actually provided my measurements from late January and took my measures today so I can actually do a proper comparison.
During these seven months I have lost:
From the widest point on the chest -11 cm / 4,4 inches
From the slimmest point on the waist -22,5 cm / 8,9 inches
From the widest point on the hips -10 cm / 3,9 inches
I am hoping to end up with a nice hourglass figure and if I am looking at those measurements I think it is definitely going to the right direction. Chest is still the widest part though. I don't know will my genes support it, but I would totally love to have a hip / waist ratio in a way that my waist would be around 65-70% of the diameter of the hip. For example 60 cm / 23,6 inches waist and 90 cm / 35,4 inches hip or 70 cm / 27,6 inches waist and 100 cm / 39,4 inches hip. It is still a long way to go and we will see what I end up being.
Today it seems I looked like this at work:
Can you do something to fix this huge flaw in this otherwise quite brilliant world?
What protein brand you were using?
Also since I didn't go to gym I had time to meet up with my seamstress. I have quite many clothes I have been waiting for her to sew smaller for me. Also she actually provided my measurements from late January and took my measures today so I can actually do a proper comparison.
During these seven months I have lost:
From the widest point on the chest -11 cm / 4,4 inches
From the slimmest point on the waist -22,5 cm / 8,9 inches
From the widest point on the hips -10 cm / 3,9 inches
I am hoping to end up with a nice hourglass figure and if I am looking at those measurements I think it is definitely going to the right direction. Chest is still the widest part though. I don't know will my genes support it, but I would totally love to have a hip / waist ratio in a way that my waist would be around 65-70% of the diameter of the hip. For example 60 cm / 23,6 inches waist and 90 cm / 35,4 inches hip or 70 cm / 27,6 inches waist and 100 cm / 39,4 inches hip. It is still a long way to go and we will see what I end up being.
Today it seems I looked like this at work:
That is great to hear! Awesome job honey! That is a hell of a lot to lose during only two months! Congratulations for the win as well.
Hey sweetie, I can't see your pic. I am crying a bit inside since I am missing the awesomeness of you.
Can you do something to fix this huge flaw in this otherwise quite brilliant world?
That is so awesome! Very impressive that you can actually already hold it for nearly half a minute! I am so waiting to see pics from you in the future.That would be awesome! Right now I'm working on doing crow stands (image not me):
I couldn't do them at all a week ago, but now I'm up to around 20~30 seconds before I lose my balance. The progression goal is a full two minutes, so I still have a way to go.
That does actually sound really good.
What protein brand you were using?Anyone else have issues with indigestion when you're working out a lot?
I had a lot of trouble sleeping last night because my stomach was constantly turning.
Today, it's the same thing. I had a piece of baked salmon on field greens for lunch and my stomach has been churning all afternoon, and I feel... bloated. I think I need to go buy some Gas-X or something.
This never happened until I started working out again.
I had a lot of trouble sleeping last night because my stomach was constantly turning.
Today, it's the same thing. I had a piece of baked salmon on field greens for lunch and my stomach has been churning all afternoon, and I feel... bloated. I think I need to go buy some Gas-X or something.
This never happened until I started working out again.
It's called Forza Pro. A buddy turned me on to it. They sell it at a store called NutriShop. It's yummy. Peanut butter banana is excellent also.That does actually sound really good.
And you're looking super cute! Great picture.
CherryWoodFuton
Member
Are you taking any protein powders? Some people are sensitive to them GI wise.
Thanks Matthew Gallant for the suggestions. I think my belt placement is what's causing my slight lower back rounding. I felt some slight discomfort trying to get into starting position
I am myself leaving on 20th of October and I will be gone a week.
With all honesty, if 1200 cals aren't doing it for you, you are eating too little. I would say I eat roughly around 1500 per day.
You can do it! October is so soon, you'll have a great time
I can't do over 1200-1300, I just can't. It makes me sick just thinking about it. :/ the only time I will is days at my parents, and on my trip, but normal eating days? I can't. It makes me want to throw up.
Eh, cleanse out all the carbs consumed in Europe haha. Penance. Same with the potentially injuring myself during work outs. My "results" the last four months is so pathetic, I absolutely deserve it.
I kind of do intermittent fasting over the weekends (I usually don't eat until 4 or so) and I may start seeing how that works for me when I come back from my trip.
What kind of program?
I don't ignore them. I changed some of my eating (more fats, less carbs) and changed some of my workouts (cut back on cardio and upped my strength stuff). I'm also thinking when the renos are done in my building, I will get a key for the exercise room. It has a weight rack...thing.
But I'm also not going to eat more on a daily basis. That is the one thing I refuse to do. Eating is bad for me, no matter what it is I eat. I can't do it. The thought of it gives me anxiety and makes me nauseous.
You can do it! October is so soon, you'll have a great time
I can't do over 1200-1300, I just can't. It makes me sick just thinking about it. :/ the only time I will is days at my parents, and on my trip, but normal eating days? I can't. It makes me want to throw up.
if that's all you eat and you push yourself too hard, you're going to get sick. you sound like you need some kind of therapy or counseling the way that you post. until you can control yourself mentally, you won't control yourself physically. sorry for being a douche, but that's basically how i see it.
Aw thanks for saying that. I'm just trying to help others after I received a lot of help here. I started watching a lot of fitness and lifting videos every since I started, so why not. On a similar note, I should probably update my Evernote note with new links since it's in the OP (but who reads the OP for links amirite).
I think it was TylerD that posted that video first, I haven't heard of Alan Thrall until that post.
No powders, just food. But I am eating more lean protein than anything else.
I've being following the CC program for about a year now and I love it. I think the only key exercise missing from this program is the inverted row (then the front lever once you're strong enough). Are you also doing the calf and grip exercises from the second book?
What kind of program?
Looking at just this page of the thread, we appear to have several people following Convict Conditioning, which despite the cheesy name, is supposed to be a very nicely structured bodyweight program. I've also heard good things about You Are Your Own Gym.
But before worrying about that
I am concerned when I read statements like these. I'm no doctor, but reading these statements makes me think you'd benefit from seeing a real medical professional, preferably one with nutritional training.
I do hope your vacation gives you a chance to relax.
It's always a nice feeling when the numbers and the pictures tell the same story - namely, awesome job.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
So I just tried using the Alan Thrall set up for my bench press, and man that shit is hard! A lot more difficult to remember/get every single detail right. I think it's going to take me months to get to anywhere even close to a proper bench press. He makes it look really easy in the video, but it's not. Damnit.
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