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Fitness |OT7| #Swelfies, Trap Lords, and Quadzilla
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If you just started I wouldn't sweat accessory stuff right now.
If you insist, save it until the very end and throw some barbell curls/planks in.
FallingEdge
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If you want to do some extra arm or ab work, even as a beginner, I say go for it. Do some curls/hammer curls/tricep pushdowns. Planks or machine crunches for abs (I like doing them, anyway)
HappyHunting
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Thanks for the suggestions. I was also under the same impression but Im going by the workout in the OT and they are there. So ill take note and if I feel good any given day ill include them at the end. Thanks !
Falling: Definately, thanks.
Falling: Definately, thanks.
Yeah man don't overthink those small things.
When I started, I had the same outlook, but your arms and abs are gonna get hit more from doing heavier and heavier compounds. Stuff like snatch grip deads hits my back way more than like...a dumbbell row will.
I'm trying to breath and push out my gut on squats but I feel like I'm doing it wrong.
figured a belt could help but I don''t want to rely on it.
entremet
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I like them, but I don't have sweet tooth.
I forget the video (maybe Candito HQ?) but he went over a good way to test this.
Lay on your back and put a book on your belly. Now take in a big breath and hold it like you would for squats. If the book moves up, you're doing it right and holding it in your belly. If not, you're holding it in your chest, and thats wrong.
Do your edit, a belt won't help with that. The movement really needs to be solid first before relying on a belt.
Definitely barbell curls. To be honest, abs might be a waste...he'll get a great workout from keeping his core solid during his compounds if he's a beginner.
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HappyHunting
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Also noted.
I use one of those low end belts that are larger in the back, only because it was free and given to me. It still makes a huge difference for me on the compounds. I have a belt that is the same size all around but I'm still using the crappy belt till it no longer fits me. It has 10 belt holes and I'm on the 8th.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Thanks guys. Coming back after hitting 410+ on bench late last year and inflicting a pretty nasty shoulder injury on myself I've still been recovering from. These were pain free, but it requires an extensive warmup as you can see from the log. I'll be back over 400by the time of my push/pull meet in May.
That was OmarIsuf's video. I believe it's in my Evernote link.
EDIT: Yeah, it is in my Evernote link. Here's the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yF-AKMSr-A
I've been meaning to ask you...do you think the 45X40 is even necessary for you?
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
It's purely to get everything warmed up. At this point with my shoulder it's definitely necessary.
theytookourjobz
Junior Member
I've been eating a lot the past couple months.
ohhthegore
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I've been eating a lot the past couple months.
lookin strong bro, hot dog?
I've been eating a lot the past couple months.
Great lift.
WTF with the hot dog tat though? lol
theytookourjobz
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Long story about the tattoo. It's dumb but I love it and it always makes me laugh 
MrOogieBoogie
BioShock Infinite is like playing some homeless guy's vivid imagination
Hey Brolic, do you have any good bench cues to help you set up?
FallingEdge
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To give a different viewpoint, I needed direct arm work to have them grow. Compounds helped but not nearly as much as isolation exercise. Again, this is me. Others have it grow just fine with compounds.
I pretty much have to fight twice as hard for all my gains in my arms, chest, and traps.
DUFFMCWALIN
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Yes. Bring the war out of MLB Gaf.
theytookourjobz
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I'm definitely on #teammustard
HisshouBuraiKen
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See also: http://www.elitefts.com/education/training/biceps-blowout-a-case-for-biceps-curls/ Isolation work has its place.
After a couple months of cruise control due to work/family/vacation/minor injuries I'm back on track in the gym. During that time though I've realized I really need to take posture and rotator cuff health seriously, I think I'm gonna incorporate some of the stuff in Eric Cressey's Neanderthal No More program. Computer guy posture is the source of a lot of my woes.
I didn't want to say anything, but you sure like to judge people. People have different reasons to go to the gym, if they just want to talk to other people while at the gym, then let them. That is not a wrong way to do fitness, people have their agenda and goals and that's it. Obviously it's better to do your thing at the gym but a lot of dudes only lift to be or stay relatively healthy, and honestly you don't need to be silent or not talk to people for that.To each their own.
DUFFMCWALIN
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I don't do any arm only accessory movements, but I feel dips, DB rows, some tricep extensions, and pull ups help build up my bicep muscles. If anyone disagrees or has suggestions let me know. I just don't see a point of actively working out the muscle on its own.
Rows and pull ups will hit your bis but unless you love your bis and don't want them any bigger curls will probably help you.
DUFFMCWALIN
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Hmmm. Okay I'll have to think on this. Its a movement I haven't done in years.
Thank you for the link. Reading now.
speaking about pull-ups, I didn't realize I broke a PR last week, I weighted 72.6 kg, which is the most I have ever and after weighting myself, I did a set of 14 unassisted pull-ups.
that felt nice.
DUFFMCWALIN
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Congrats thats a shit ton. I've been sticking to sets of five but after the third or fourth set I'm fried. Maybe I should try a max set sometime. Probably would get 7 or 8 lol.
thanks! that's my second set, after warming up. After that is always less reps but I manage to stay above 8 across 5 sets always.
my forearms are on fire after that long set. That and deadlift have got to be the best exercises for forearms,
and don't sell yourself short, 7 or 8 is also alot.
I have friends who struggle to do two or three... not sure why, they are fit and look pretty damn well aesthetically
Talk about bitter. Congrats on the pull up PR anyway!
Two weeks is a while to hold a grudge, no?
Seriously lol.
lol I couldn't resist, sorry, no hard feelings or anything,
I actually do DB curls in between squat sets, which to me is the perfect time because your legs are resting but your heart is still pumping.
God Dayumm
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Perfect. And you can use the same rack too!
It's all good.
I've been meaning to share with fitgaf something that has been bugging me for a while.
I think I have a (mild?) case of vigorexia.... maybe??
your first reaction may be "everybody here wants the gains, nothing new or special"
but I think I may be different.
Ever since 2012, (thats over 2 years ago!), I've never been happy about the scale showing less weight. Never once. For my brain, more weight means "right", less weight means "wrong". Whenever the scale would show a relatively low number, I'd feel down the whole gym session, bummed.
my problem is that my biggest fear is that everything that is in store for me in the future regarding aestehtics is to be lean, with a sixpack but compact and small, I respect people who pursue that goal but quite frankly, I hate it on me. I like size.
I am 5'5 and weight 160, I really don't think I can be considered big, you guys have seen my pics. I mean I may look somewhat big or bulky for people who do not train but go to the free weight area in my gym and I look like a wimp compared plenty of guys there.
now about pics, I look ok in some and not ok in many others... sometimes I think I am deluding myself and I am not realizing the time to shed fat was a long time ago. Cutting, like bulking, requires a concerted effort over a long period of time and if I am not convinced it's just not going to happen... so I am kind of stuck there. I can't force the growth that comes over many years but I don't want to lower the BF cause "fuck that" so my physique potential is massively gimped right now. in the short term, I'll never look aestehtically pleasing on all accounts , not just the right day or from the right angle.
Not having a trainer really doesn't help matters. As a newb everything "works" but as I progress, going blind into this is probably bringing me nowhere.... there's so much a guy can do by himself and the internet, if I had a trainer I'd just follow instructions and everything would be so much easier.
bah, I can go on ranting but I'll leave it there.. At least I got it off my chest
I think I have a (mild?) case of vigorexia.... maybe??
your first reaction may be "everybody here wants the gains, nothing new or special"
but I think I may be different.
Ever since 2012, (thats over 2 years ago!), I've never been happy about the scale showing less weight. Never once. For my brain, more weight means "right", less weight means "wrong". Whenever the scale would show a relatively low number, I'd feel down the whole gym session, bummed.
my problem is that my biggest fear is that everything that is in store for me in the future regarding aestehtics is to be lean, with a sixpack but compact and small, I respect people who pursue that goal but quite frankly, I hate it on me. I like size.
I am 5'5 and weight 160, I really don't think I can be considered big, you guys have seen my pics. I mean I may look somewhat big or bulky for people who do not train but go to the free weight area in my gym and I look like a wimp compared plenty of guys there.
now about pics, I look ok in some and not ok in many others... sometimes I think I am deluding myself and I am not realizing the time to shed fat was a long time ago. Cutting, like bulking, requires a concerted effort over a long period of time and if I am not convinced it's just not going to happen... so I am kind of stuck there. I can't force the growth that comes over many years but I don't want to lower the BF cause "fuck that" so my physique potential is massively gimped right now. in the short term, I'll never look aestehtically pleasing on all accounts , not just the right day or from the right angle.
Not having a trainer really doesn't help matters. As a newb everything "works" but as I progress, going blind into this is probably bringing me nowhere.... there's so much a guy can do by himself and the internet, if I had a trainer I'd just follow instructions and everything would be so much easier.
bah, I can go on ranting but I'll leave it there.. At least I got it off my chest
Everytime a beginner brings this up we all fall in the same loop.
Remember, if he's just starting out, he really shouldn't sweat the small stuff.
I didn't mean no one should do arm isolation exercises, but a beginner is going to have his arms hit plenty in the first stages of getting strong.
Remember, if he's just starting out, he really shouldn't sweat the small stuff.
I didn't mean no one should do arm isolation exercises, but a beginner is going to have his arms hit plenty in the first stages of getting strong.
I'll just say that doing ss as a newbie, my arm strength kept me back on a lot of lifts. It depends on the person.
Spiritreaver
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I like curls because they make me feel good. The pump you get on an arm day, yes an arm day, feels great and looks great. When I'm having shitty ruts and don't feel like hitting the gym I am that guy that will just hit arms because it's easy, feels good, and gets me going.
It's when you begin to neglect more important routines or exercises to focus on overtraining small muscle groups that it's a problem.
More on topic. I don't see the problem with adding a little isolation work, if anything to get more accustomed to the exercises and its variants for later down the road, but if you're beginning you don't really need it much either. It really depends on your long term goals.
It's when you begin to neglect more important routines or exercises to focus on overtraining small muscle groups that it's a problem.
More on topic. I don't see the problem with adding a little isolation work, if anything to get more accustomed to the exercises and its variants for later down the road, but if you're beginning you don't really need it much either. It really depends on your long term goals.
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