Of course you hate it. Anyone would trying to lift with the amount of stress you put on your body from cycling.
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Fitness |OT9|...You looked better before
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FallingEdge
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Yup. If I did cardio for 4 hours and had to DL / Squat the next day, I'd despise lifting.
p.s. delts / traps coming along...everything else lagging. Going to be a wild ride to get ready for the competition:
Dusk Soldier
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To build muscle, you to be following a workout routine that has progressive overload built into it.
First thing I would look at is your workout routine, as a beginner you shouldn't really need to fiddle with your diet so much to see progress.
Post a sample of your workout routine. We can analyse that and go from there.
I get the same pleasure out of lifting that I used to when playing MMOs -- it's a grind, but it provides a sense of progression and it's nice to feel like I still have room to grow. It also helps relieve stress, though that hasn't been happening quite as much after six months of cutting.
Maybe my feelings about lifting will change when I get to the point where it's a struggle to add anymore weight to the bar, but that's a long ways down the road since I've never bulked and by then I'm sure I'll be fine with just doing it to maintain my physical appearance.In fact I had been following the traditional squats, bench press, deadlift, overhead press and bentover row 3 series of 5 reps each, (following SS) the problem was that I was stuck at ridiculous weights (as low as 20-30ks in bench press, even less for overhead press) for ridiculous amounts of time (>6 months). I was eating in deficit at the time and I was told that was the reason: I'm skinny and without much muscle and not eating enough was not going to help me, so that's when I decided to start eating above my TDEE (around 300-400 cals more/day) and since then I have improved somewhat, but now I read that I shouldn't be eating above maintenance if I have 17% bodyfat.
My intention was to keep eating above TDEE and I set as a goal being able to lift 50kg by the end of the year, but if I change to cutting (which all these specialised blogs said I should) I don't think I'll be able to do it, unless I can somehow improve my strength while at deficit.
My TDEE is around 1700kcals and I'm eating 2000-2100 daily by the way.
I have used the 1percentedge ifcalc calculator to predict how things would go either way, and I've come to this conclusion:
- If I keep bulking as I am now by January I would be 61kg (58kg now) and 21% fat, then I would do an aggresive cut and according to ifcalc I could be 55kg, 10% fat, 48 lean body mass by the end of May.
- If instead I change to an aggresive cut now, according to ifcalc I would be 55kg and 10% fat by the end of October, I could bulk then instead of now and by April 2017 I would be 61kg but just 14% body fat (instead of 21% the other way), so then I could cut and by this time next year I would be 58kg, my same weight as now, but around 11% body fat and 51kg lean body mass
Just looking at those estimates the second option seems better in the long run, but as I have problems lifting I don't know if it's a good idea to go into deficit again.
I did an "aggresive cut" two years ago (perhaps too aggresive, sometimes eating only 900 cals per day, that also didn't help with my lifts), and I managed to go from 59kg to 54kg in about six months, so I'm not afraid of those and I know what it entails.
Psychotext
Member
I'd probably feel better about it with regular progression, but that doesn't happen for me, especially with all the injuries. Does with mountain biking still, though that's slowing now.
Unrelated, shopping for suits sucks. I can fit in amazing slim fit ones now, but I've ended up having to buy slightly bigger than I can get into because i need to be able to wear it fully bulked and fully cut.
Unrelated, shopping for suits sucks. I can fit in amazing slim fit ones now, but I've ended up having to buy slightly bigger than I can get into because i need to be able to wear it fully bulked and fully cut.
Holy crap. You look massive! What are you weighing in at right now?Yup. If I did cardio for 4 hours and had to DL / Squat the next day, I'd despise lifting.
p.s. delts / traps coming along...everything else lagging. Going to be a wild ride to get ready for the competition:
Jacksinthe
Banned
Bum gonna be on Game of Thrones soon!
Thanks, bubba! 182 (which is too much) but I've started getting in the groove on both exercise and diet (thanks to you guys) and its infectious.
Thanks Jack!!
Yasss! We are finally the same weight.😎 Can we start the tourney tomorrow?
I bought a cheap $20 one at Walmart years ago and it has been just fine.
Does that mean I won't have to work them out anymore?
lol, no way. I'll call you when I'm at 172-175. Then, we dance.
Like Coot, I spent about $20 dollars on mine and I've beat it up for 4 years or more. Still going strong.
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
How is your door frame holding up? My main concern with getting a pull up bar is messing up the door frame or the wall above it.
I'll be about 178. Let me take the lead on this.
Not bad. A few scuffs but that is to be expected.
ShadowgeistX
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That's so weird, I'm pretty much weighing in at 182lbs as well. Nice progress though Bum.
ShadowgeistX
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I would dump the calculators, seriously. Let me go over the problems:
1) You were weak when on an aggressive cut, I guess that's partly expected. You're cycling between extremes with nothing to show for it. Do a slight deficit at 14-1500 cals, maybe cycle to maintenence when you train.
2) Now you've bulked more than some people here are capable of, at an estimated 17% body fat (hard to tell without pics though). However, if the numbers you posted were AFTER you did this weird bulk phase at 15+% BF, then there is something DEFINITELY wrong with your program or how you're going about it or even maybe how you're doing your exercise. This is your main problem, I'm pretty sure about it.
3) You're providing theoretical values about your future self after either a massive cut or a massive bulk, but chances are that neither one will be correct.
so many things I want to talk about or share, it's been a while since I posted here for the last time, yet I've been lurking and following everyone's progress, it's always inspiring to see pics and numbers from everyone. Congrats to everyone achieving goals and reaching new heights,
As for me, I failed, for the most part and for the 4th straight year, to suceed at being a pianist and an athelte at the same time.
I've been doing sport regularly for 4 years now (feels longer though) and during the first 3 years, I had basically quitted performing or playing piano on a grand scale this year, after a 3 year hiatus, I went on tour in Germany, Spain and Mexico. It was very rewarding personally but it demanded way too much time and I went to the gym whenever I could... meaning, not every often, Often I had to go to the piano exactly when I was meant to hit the gym/do cardio, so I did, sport is the hobby and the recitals were paid, almost all of them.
a week ago that ended and I am at my parents in Mexico trying to relax and take it easy and I have my mind set on coming back strong to training, one step at a time, like they say, leaving the ego at the door and getting back up again.
I had a 5R, 248 lbs/112,5 kgs squat, weighting 158 lbs/72 kgs, that's like a long gone, distant past now, I barely had time to do legs at all the last 5 or so months so I have to build strength back.
posting here and now is also a way of trying to get closer to the fitness/strenght mentality, so I hope I can post here more often from now on. I have noticed I post here regularly when I am actually getting somewhere on my fitness goals. .
As for me, I failed, for the most part and for the 4th straight year, to suceed at being a pianist and an athelte at the same time.
I've been doing sport regularly for 4 years now (feels longer though) and during the first 3 years, I had basically quitted performing or playing piano on a grand scale this year, after a 3 year hiatus, I went on tour in Germany, Spain and Mexico. It was very rewarding personally but it demanded way too much time and I went to the gym whenever I could... meaning, not every often, Often I had to go to the piano exactly when I was meant to hit the gym/do cardio, so I did, sport is the hobby and the recitals were paid, almost all of them.
a week ago that ended and I am at my parents in Mexico trying to relax and take it easy and I have my mind set on coming back strong to training, one step at a time, like they say, leaving the ego at the door and getting back up again.
I had a 5R, 248 lbs/112,5 kgs squat, weighting 158 lbs/72 kgs, that's like a long gone, distant past now, I barely had time to do legs at all the last 5 or so months so I have to build strength back.
posting here and now is also a way of trying to get closer to the fitness/strenght mentality, so I hope I can post here more often from now on. I have noticed I post here regularly when I am actually getting somewhere on my fitness goals. .
Syphon Filter
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I got to taste the oatmeal cookie quest bar. It taste pretty similar to the cookie dough quest bar but I prefer the oatmeal cookie. I would put it up there as one of my favorites although I am not quest bar expert.
I think I might need to start a medication to heal my nerve roots. I am still having myokymia on my left ass cheek quite often which is a sign that I am not fully healed. I am pretty damn scared to start the medication since it can fuck me up in so many different ways. It is basicly a depression medication, but since it has strong effects also on nerve system it is used to neurological problems as well. I really don't want to start to take the pills, so I am still a bit indecisive.
Even if I would start the medication I would certainly continue working out. I should also find myself a new gym since my membership is expiring in the end of this month. A place with a proper ac would be great.
Sounds extremely tasty.
I need to see his latest pics since I remember following his weight loss.
I really loved even the original chips so I might need the new version in my life. Also mint keto cups sound pretty damn good.
I so wish I would have been more active when I was younger. I know I will never look particularly good just because I used to be so overweight.
I am working with a new back injury so I am using really low weights at the moment. We can hold each other's hands and get the weights back up together.
Especially very much liking your arms. (Also it seems you are pretty damn handsome, but I can't be sure since you use your phone to cover your face. Shame really.)
Even if I would start the medication I would certainly continue working out. I should also find myself a new gym since my membership is expiring in the end of this month. A place with a proper ac would be great.
It took me only two days to watch all of it. Absolutely awesome show and I totally loved it.
I like your way of thinking.
Yeah, I wouldn't be too worried - you look like a sexy beast at least in my books.
Ooooh! I am as well.
Sounds extremely tasty.Wait, did Bish really get married?
I need to see his latest pics since I remember following his weight loss.Oh no, my wallet already hate you.
I really loved even the original chips so I might need the new version in my life. Also mint keto cups sound pretty damn good.
Great story and even better results.
I so wish I would have been more active when I was younger. I know I will never look particularly good just because I used to be so overweight.
Damn Bum! Extremely good looking upper body! You are massive!Yup. If I did cardio for 4 hours and had to DL / Squat the next day, I'd despise lifting.
p.s. delts / traps coming along...everything else lagging. Going to be a wild ride to get ready for the competition:
Sphinx! Great to see you here! Also piano tour sounds pretty damn awesome!
I am working with a new back injury so I am using really low weights at the moment. We can hold each other's hands and get the weights back up together.
Yep, however you do look great!Haven't been around much, but I'm still out there working hard. I've drastically reduced my lifting in favor of rock climbing and a return to bodyweight exercises, however.
Especially very much liking your arms. (Also it seems you are pretty damn handsome, but I can't be sure since you use your phone to cover your face. Shame really.)Ooooh, cookie dough has been my favourite so I might need the oatmeal one in my life now.
Peterthumpa
Member
Probably asked already, but just spent almost a full day reading the guides at http://www.aworkoutroutine.com/ and http://www.acaloriecounter.com/.
Is this Jay guy reputable? He seems like he knows his stuff, but there's almost no reference to what he claims, so I'm cautiously optimistic in following his advises.
Is this Jay guy reputable? He seems like he knows his stuff, but there's almost no reference to what he claims, so I'm cautiously optimistic in following his advises.
Fitness GAF, I need not fitness advice/motivation
I've gotten into the habit and routine of working out nearly every day for about a month, month and half now. It's great, feel great, mind feels clear.
My problem is I can't get through this mental block scaring me from filling out job applications. FIlling out dozens of them to hear nothing back absolutely sucks. I know it will suck and if I eventually do hear something it'll only be for the better and I need to suck it up but it's still incredibly discouraging and demotivating :[
I've gotten into the habit and routine of working out nearly every day for about a month, month and half now. It's great, feel great, mind feels clear.
My problem is I can't get through this mental block scaring me from filling out job applications. FIlling out dozens of them to hear nothing back absolutely sucks. I know it will suck and if I eventually do hear something it'll only be for the better and I need to suck it up but it's still incredibly discouraging and demotivating :[
Syphon Filter
Member
Check out the applying for jobs thread here on gaf, people give good advice.
What field are you in?
it's more the feeling that I could pull everything off, yet I fail cause I lack the willpówer and discipline of iron required to do all I want.
my goals are:
1.- My actual daily job of teaching, this takes around 5 hours a day in the afternoon.
2.- performing and playing piano at a high level, this takes anything between 4-6 hours of practice a day. this should happen mostly before noon.
3.- Train/eat/sleep like I am preparing for Mr. Olympia lol, (prepare meals, don't miss sessions, etc), this should happen after work around 06~08:00 PM
4.- Play videogames at some point in the day, either very early with my 3DS during poo times or very late in the day. Either way I'd want to have 1 hour a day to relax and chill. not sure when... probably 10.00
but this is all utopic, like a dream life. So far, I manage 3 out of 4... specially points 2 and 3 hate each other. if I play piano like a pro, there's barely any time for something else , if I see progress on the gym (strength and/or looks) that means most likely I am playing the piano just for fun every other day...
most likely I just lack discipline, I've got the time and I actually want it, it's mental laziness or something.
I can keep trying I guess.
Sadetar said:Sphinx! Great to see you here! Also piano tour sounds pretty damn awesome!
I am working with a new back injury so I am using really low weights at the moment. We can hold each other's hands and get the weights back up together.
Sadetar, I am glad you are doing well. I remember you from like a year (or 2??) ago that you had a serious health problem and stopped posting here, I was worried that something worse had happened, glad you're ok
as for goals, I will try to get back to my 100 pull-up achievement, will try doing pyramids again. will probably start from 5 max -_- oh well, no use oeverthinking, gotta start somewhere.
I hope I can participate here more often from now on.
by the way, I had never seen you look this strong or powerful, from your past pics, I remember you with like 10%~8% BF, strong but lean (great abs!). In this last pic, you look huge compared to past pics, pretty cool to see the change.
I hope I can participate here more often from now on.
by the way, I had never seen you look this strong or powerful, from your past pics, I remember you with like 10%~8% BF, strong but lean (great abs!). In this last pic, you look huge compared to past pics, pretty cool to see the change.
Thanks dude! Yeah definitely bigger, but with a price (that BF% is up).
Currently a manager in a sneaker store, degree in Business Administration
I do, I read it regularly. It's just a thick mental wall I need to crush.
If you want me to take a look at your resume, let me know...I'd be glad to. I did all the hiring for my last job (Finance) and have seen probably 1,000+ resumes in the last 5-6 years.
Syphon Filter
Member
If you don't mind, can you check mine out as well?
Absolutely!
Syphon Filter
Member
cool, what is the best way. paste it on pm or you want me to email? i can share it over google docs as well.
Share me your Google doc so I can see your formatting (arguably more important than content)
Syphon Filter
Member
ok, can you pm me your email so I can share it.
Peterthumpa
Member
Quoting myself since I'm really curious about it.
Jacksinthe
Banned
Had to break the cut tonight. Heat killed me today and tomorrow won't be any better. Fueling up for work tomorrow. Kept it an easy 4k calories today. Tomorrow I'll get by on 2.5k since I don't lift on Saturday. Should get me through the heat without feeling like I'm going to pass out. Kept an extra close eye on my glucose - making sure I don't fly too low.
Everyone else that works outside where it's blazing stay hydrated and fed. Keep the coffee/caffeine to a minimum. Got mine icing for tomorrow and I'll just sip a bit here and there throughout the day.
Stay safe in the heat, buds.
Everyone else that works outside where it's blazing stay hydrated and fed. Keep the coffee/caffeine to a minimum. Got mine icing for tomorrow and I'll just sip a bit here and there throughout the day.
Stay safe in the heat, buds.
FallingEdge
Member
exclusive footage of me vs szu
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Oh sick, yeah I'll PM you. Thank you very much.
Imp the Dimp
Member
I have a question regarding planks: Should I do 1 plank for as long as I can or is it preferable to do like 3 sets with a set time?
Jacksinthe
Banned
3 sets as long as you can.
Treat it like any other lift. You do X reps for Y sets where X is repetitions without failure and X+1 is failure. The core is no different than any other muscle group.
Imp the Dimp
Member
All right, thanks. 1 plank for as long as I can didn't seem sufficient indeed. I'll up my volume.
Psychotext
Member
There are more difficult versions you can do btw. No-one wants to be there for 20 minutes.
Imp the Dimp
Member
I got an appointment on Thursday for the pain in my groin on the left side. Happy about that. I'm really disappointed I could basically not work out my legs as efficiently as I wanted this summer because of that shitty pain.
edit: Honestly a little anxious about seeing a physician. I really hate examinations.
edit: Honestly a little anxious about seeing a physician. I really hate examinations.