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FootballSoccerFútbolFussball Thread 2010/2011 |OT2|
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Vivalaraza
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Liverpool selling Meireles is very surprising, if true. He was a very good player for Liverpool last season, doesn't seem to make sense. If it's a selling to buy strategy...does that concern Liverpool fans a bit? Naturally you'll always be raising funds from sales to help boost any existing transfer budget but surely you don't want to be selling your better players?
farhatraza said:
Pretty sure it's not sell to buy, well not in the sense of we don't have funds unless we sell, anyway. I think it's either that we'd have too many centre mids should Adam arrive, or that FSG is midful of the FFP rules approaching and wants our profit/loss from player sales to be manageable.
KidA Seven
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:lol Pele... u mad bro?
I'm not sure why Clichy seems so intent on leaving Arsenal. I could understand it last year when it was Real Madrid were supposedly interested in him. But this summer it's Roma and Liverpool, both finished 6th in their respective leagues (Roma gets Europa League though) and neither are guaranteed to qualify for the Champions League next season, much less challenge for the Championship. I really don't see why he'd sign for either of those clubs.
you just like seeing Liverpool fans griping, don't you?farhatraza said:
One of today's papers has Arsenal wanting Joey Barton, which I would quite like to see happen actually. Although, whenever we have played against him, I always get the impression he hates us.
Still, he wants Champions League football, and we need a player like Barton badly. Some steel in midfield. He is a good player and has cleaned up his antics off the pitch.
Still, he wants Champions League football, and we need a player like Barton badly. Some steel in midfield. He is a good player and has cleaned up his antics off the pitch.
Who wouldn't want Englands best midfielder in their team?!Kweh said:
Dr Zhivago
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From what I've heard, Meireles was promised a big pay rise by the previous regime which the current owners are unwilling to honour.
farhatraza said:
He's backup for Lucas/Gerrard/Maxi/Kuyt/Anyone else. He's been great for us, but hasn't cemented or claimed a position as his own. If its true that his wages are set to increase, our management team may feel it's a little too much for a squad player.
I'd of course prefer to keep him. Went on a great scoring run under Dalglish, and I think he'd be more the happy to play the same role this season (filling in whenever/wherever needed).
elseanio said:
He played 41 games for us last year and was one of our most consistent performers. He wasn't backup to anyone nor should he be. He got tired at the end of the season probably due to him being played out of position a number of times and the fact that it was his first season in one of the most physical leagues in the world.
He only filled in when we lacked options out wide and undoubtedly had his best games and his scoring run when played through the middle. Apparently he was on £30,000 last year so you cant really blame him for wanting a pay rise seeing as some of the shite on our squad are on three times that.
Happy 24th Birthday to the legend, Lionel Messi 
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Chelsea fans, here is a funny video of Villa Boas back when he was at Chelsea by Mourinho's side:
Also, here is the full 13 minute first interview with Villa Boas as the Chelsea manager
!Chelsea fans, here is a funny video of Villa Boas back when he was at Chelsea by Mourinho's side:
Also, here is the full 13 minute first interview with Villa Boas as the Chelsea manager
Steverulez
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Fady K said:
Interesting interview, he seems to be a real "team player" very different to Jose with regards to his personality.
I hope he can bring success to us and hopefully he can get on with managing the team, bringing in his own players and getting rid of deadwood as he sees fit. Its time for Roman to leave his manager to do his job, get involved when asked not when it suits him. I was delighted when Roman came along and getting Mourinho was certainly great for the club but since then his decision making (except for appointing Ancelotti) has been questionable.
If he wants trophies, give AVB time and he'll do it.
José Mourinho
cocknose
Cheers for the link.Fady K said:
Edit: That first video is :lol
Fady K said:Happy 24th Birthday to the legend, Lionel Messi
Chelsea fans, here is a funny video of Villa Boas back when he was at Chelsea by Mourinho's side:
Also, here is the full 13 minute first interview with Villa Boas as the Chelsea manager
Awesome. Thanks! Season can't begin soon enough. Is it too earlier to petition AVB as manager for life? Or at least until Torres leaves.
Great interview. I chuckled a bit when he got all tongue-tied, stuttery when he was talking about a new way of communicating with players, management, and the owner.
Steverulez
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Daily Mail reports Chelsea closing in on Falcao for £26.5m
Are they to be considered a good source? Im excited about the signing. Let Anelka go.
Torres/Falcao/Drogba/Sturridge is an extremely talented strike force unless Sturridge goes out on loan and we get Lukaku? I'd like to sign Lukaku but perhaps loan him back to Anderlecht for a season or two. Sturridge deserves his chance after his Bolton performances and I want Didier to stay so maybe we'll just keep a lot of attacking options.
Are they to be considered a good source? Im excited about the signing. Let Anelka go.
Torres/Falcao/Drogba/Sturridge is an extremely talented strike force unless Sturridge goes out on loan and we get Lukaku? I'd like to sign Lukaku but perhaps loan him back to Anderlecht for a season or two. Sturridge deserves his chance after his Bolton performances and I want Didier to stay so maybe we'll just keep a lot of attacking options.
New manager of Inter is Gianpiero Gasperini from Genoa
F.C. Internazionale Milano
Daily Mail? no. But Falcao to Chelsea sounds very posible.
F.C. Internazionale Milano
steverulez said:
Daily Mail? no. But Falcao to Chelsea sounds very posible.
Metalmurphy
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They won't be getting it for any less then that that's for sure.steverulez said:
Kermit The Dog
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So it's become pretty obvious that Sanchez (or his management and Udinese, more specifically) have realised they can probably eek out of City at least 40 million for Sanchez.
Udinese owner Pozzo:
Obviously he wants to go to Barca, but there's no way Barca will part with 40 million to sign him, leaving City in the box seat, seemingly. For 40 million, they can get fucked. I'd rather not have him.
Bolded for the :lol
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...rcelona-bid-Alexis-Sanchez.html#ixzz1QCtTRzap
Udinese owner Pozzo:
Obviously he wants to go to Barca, but there's no way Barca will part with 40 million to sign him, leaving City in the box seat, seemingly. For 40 million, they can get fucked. I'd rather not have him.
Bolded for the :lol
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...rcelona-bid-Alexis-Sanchez.html#ixzz1QCtTRzap
LabouredSubterfuge
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I really do love the assertion that Barca don't have any game changers.
Darth Sonik
we need more FPS games
Raul Meireles was a huge part of our resurgence in the second half of the season. And was one of the few who impressed during Hodgson's reign. I would be seriously pissed off if he was let go.
Only just noticed this bit when ElyrionX quoted it...
I won't go into detail so as to keep the transfer talk going (although if you really want me to I will explain), but if you really think that is the reason that us and United were (or are, in United's case) in massive debt, I advise you to read up on the subject before making comments such as that. It's way, way off the mark.
Kermit The Dog said:
I won't go into detail so as to keep the transfer talk going (although if you really want me to I will explain), but if you really think that is the reason that us and United were (or are, in United's case) in massive debt, I advise you to read up on the subject before making comments such as that. It's way, way off the mark.
Well, can you hurry up and put a bid in then? Guy is just going to leave next year on a free, otherwise. And can Liverpool hurry up as well with their bid for Enrique? Same thing will happen to him next year as well.Kweh said:
Typical of Newcastle that we have our good players' contracts running out crucial times. Wouldn't be surprised to see Enrique and Barton both leave on a free next year. At least Tiote's tied down.
Completely agree. There is plenty of deadweight at the club that need to go. Maxi and Raul are not in this category by any means, and yet both have been rumored to be exiting.
I hope, given how watertight LFC is at the moment regarding any transfer news, that this is all just bullshit being made up by outlets scrambling for any info possible.
I also fail to see how a combination of Dalglish and Comolli could make such grave errors in reading the will of the fans and who they want to see put on the red jersey next season. Sure, the fans might not always know what's best for the club, but I fail to see how it can ever be justified to sign the likes of Henderson and Adam and letting Raul and Maxi go.
I hope, given how watertight LFC is at the moment regarding any transfer news, that this is all just bullshit being made up by outlets scrambling for any info possible.
I also fail to see how a combination of Dalglish and Comolli could make such grave errors in reading the will of the fans and who they want to see put on the red jersey next season. Sure, the fans might not always know what's best for the club, but I fail to see how it can ever be justified to sign the likes of Henderson and Adam and letting Raul and Maxi go.
:lol yeahKylehimself said:
they were mimicking this guy, very popular in portugal, he's always trying to get in the shot during interviews/reports outside of stadiums
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKJSph-P-1k
Dark Machine
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Feorax said:
I think the original story was in the Metro, which is well known for bullshit sports stories.
Don't get why we want Adam either, I've said before that we have plenty of cover in that area in Raul and Alberto. Poulson, Jovanovic, Ngog etc should be at the front of the stall in our summer sale.
Newcastle are still asking silly money for Enrique, Ashley obviously thinks he can get more cash out of us when really he got the Carroll cash from Chelsea, that's why I'm happy we're looking at Clichy.
This young kid Nolan Roux seems an exciting undiscovered player and would be cheap if we can get Ngog out the door. Surely we have to stick in bids for Mata and Downing at some point. Mind you, everyone's still on holiday, so it's no wonder things have been pretty slow in terms of concrete transfers.
Kermit The Dog
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PaulLFC said:
Explain away, you offered up some really interesting analysis yesterday. I'd appreciate it.
anonnumber6
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Where did Malaga find the money for Toulalan, RVN and Joaquin?MPW said:
LabouredSubterfuge
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anonnumber6 said:
Dark Machine
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anonnumber6 said:
They got bought by a Sheikh for around 36million. Sheikh Abdullah bin Nasser bin Abdullah Al Ahmed Al Thani to be exact, Qatari Billionaire.
Kermit The Dog said:
Okay, well elseanio nailed it, both the teams' problems have come from leveraged buyouts. The main differences between the two is that United have done a much better job of maximising their revenue and exploiting growth areas, and the Glazers have been able to handle the LBO better because of this.
The basic idea Hicks & Gillett had was to buy us for around £300 million, while taking out loans to cover that money, and not investing a penny of their own cash in the acquisition. The debt was then loaded onto LFC & AG, the parent company of the club, meaning that the club itself was responsible for paying down the loan and crucially, meeting the interest repayments. At £40 million a year, this was a huge proportion of our profits gone just on paying debt.
So the sole reason that we were in debt was the fact that H&G loaded their acquisition debt onto the club - otherwise, we would have been making a healthy profit had we not had to keep up with interest repayments. We've started making a profit now under FSG because a) they have invested their own money in the acquisition and b) commercial revenues have increased markedly under the guidance of Ian Ayre (our former commercial director, now our MD).
The reason United are still in debt is, as I've said, far greater revenues have allowed the debt repayments to be met quite comfortably, and their repeated success has contributed to this as well. I'll admit I don't take much interest in United's accounts, but in my opinion, I'd be very surprised if David Gill's claim that the entire £80 million they received for Ronaldo is sitting in a bank account somewhere waiting to be spent. Some, if not all, of that will have gone on debt repayments of some form is my guess, as United's debts are larger than ours were. Only their success and revenue generating ability has enabled them to keep the debts relatively out of the spotlight so far.
Should United have a couple of below-par seasons, or even fail to qualify for Europe, much more focus from both fans and the media will be placed on the debt. It was the same for us - when we came 2nd, there was only a very small minority of fans voicing concerns. Finishing 7th, however, lead to a lot more discontent, more people reading about the problems and joining together to try and force a change.
anonnumber6
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LabouredSubterfuge said:
elseanio said:
I see, should be interesting to see if they can break into the top two in the next decade.Dark Machine said:
Milchmonster
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What reputation does the source have? Seems pretty unlikely or like a big fuck up on City's side if true. Rumors were City wants 20m and Bayern is only willing to pay like 12m. I guess if there was a £7m bid, it was just Bayern making the first step in the negotiations. I know City don't really care about money but that would be hilarious bad negotiations on their side.elsk said:
Dark Machine
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anonnumber6 said:
I think I said it a while back, but this seems to be the new fashion. Rather than making HUEG buyouts and investments into big clubs, many of these savvy businessmen are seeing potential in acquiring smaller clubs and building them up. Toulalan cost them almost half what it took to buy the whole club I think. Getafé were also bought by a Sheikh as well I believe.
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