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How does that make sense when the only thing we're losing is money? Dunno if you heard, but we have money up the arse.Greyface said:
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FootballSoccerFútbolFussball Thread 2010/2011 |OT2|
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odd_morsel said:
Of course nobody is going to waltz in there, but there is only one spot up for grabs realistically, and that's Arsenal's, the cash of Chelsea and Man City and the prestige of Man U puts them on another level to the rest of the top 6. If they don't adequately replace these departing players and fix the continual defensive and mental problems, they could quite feasibly be overtaken by either Spurs or Liverpool. Remember in the last three years Spurs have won the league cup and progressed to the last 8 of the Champion's League last season. In the last 9 months Liverpool have got new owners who have bought exciting new players and brought in a top manager. Those two sides have shown they are moving forwards. Arsenal only seem to be moving backwards right now.
Of course that could all change with a squad overhaul but I think if you look at what the 2011/12 squads will look like for Arsenal, Spurs and Liverpool as it stands, Arsenal's looks by far the most lightweight.
KidA Seven
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Ushojax said:
Dat prestige worldwide.
farhatraza said:
Money. Yep.
Success. Nope.
City finished a whole 1 place higher than us for the first time in forever, and finally won a cup. Great. Try finishing in the top 4 for 15 years.
Nasri doesn't need to leave us. Success wise, the only step up for him in the PL would be signing for Chelsea or United. We have as much a chance of winning anything next season as the likes of City, Liverpool, Spurs etc do.
Clichy going is no big deal, he's been a liability for years and Gibbs is certainly more than capable to replace him.
Fabregas didn't have a good last season either, and with Wilshere we have him replaced.
Very few players have left Arsenal and had success, Nasri going to City will be another.
Kweh said:
When has this Arsenal squad ever shown that it is capable of winning anything? City have shown that their squad can win a trophy. They've just done it. Liverpool, Spurs (I know we won the league cup but the team was totally different) and Arsenal haven't. Combined withe wages on offer a move to City is an understandable temptation.
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danwarb said:
Doesn't mention his lack of positional sense nor his inability to block a fucking cross it seems.
:lol no. Evra is just trolling. Nasri has fought with the 'elders' on the French team, including Evra, and wasn't taken to last summer's World Cup due to those conflicts, which actually turned out to be a good thing for his career. Evra spent the whole season calling Arsenal "boys" who couldn't handle the pressurewhich turned out to be true but he didn't have to rub it in. Evra's 'plea' for Nasri to join them was more like attack, saying that of course if Nasri was a real man who could handle the challenge of playing for Man Utd, Evra might allow him on the team to pick up some trophies (er, that's paraphrased).Slizz said:
If Nasri's decision is in any way influenced by Evra, it's more likely to lead to Nasri joining Man City for a paycut so he could take satisfaction in knocking Evra and Man Utd of their perch
KidA Seven
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Evra's a big troll man. He messes with everyone.
Greyface said:If Nasri's decision is in any way influenced by Evra, it's more likely to lead to Nasri joining Man City for a paycut so he could take satisfaction in knocking Evra and Man Utd of their perch
Pshaw.
I am feeling a primal longing for positive United transfer news. Has this sensation been mapped to a gene, a hormone ?
You already spent 50 million, got 3 highly promising players (and before you say "what about the midfield!" I'll remind you that both Young and Jones can play center mid) and you still want more? the primal sensation you describe isn't linked to a gene/hormone but is a known side effect of eating too many prawn sandwichesSalazar said:
Tim the Wiz
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I think United will sign at least one more player. There's sound argument for and against that proposition, I suppose. You could interpret the "two or three signings" Fergie mentioned to be done, even when given that Varane was bid for and Jones wasn't planned. Or you could say that Varane doesn't count and a third is coming. Or you could acknowledge that Fergie rarely lets on fully what he's actually going to do (see: 2008 summer) to keep the opposition guessing. But if a signing is to happen I'd expect it be done next week at the latest before the squad voyages across to America for their pre-season campaign.
As to who, I'd actually prefer for the renewed chorus of M'Vila rumours to be true over the Nasri stuff. Wouldn't mind a strong player that can retain the ball exceptionally under pressure and beat his man when he needs to. A partnership of him and Anderson--who is in his make-or-break season, for sure--would have serious potential to flower.
As to who, I'd actually prefer for the renewed chorus of M'Vila rumours to be true over the Nasri stuff. Wouldn't mind a strong player that can retain the ball exceptionally under pressure and beat his man when he needs to. A partnership of him and Anderson--who is in his make-or-break season, for sure--would have serious potential to flower.
Greyface said:a known side effect of eating too many prawn sandwiches
Blaaah.
The nearest side (of consequence - discounting Newport County) to my birthplace is Cardiff City. I could have supported them, but twats like Hammam and Ridsdale get in the way of any real affection. I am confessedly, in some measure, a middle-class bandwagoner.
I'm slightly intrigued by Jones and Young - more truly, by what playing with superior team-mates can draw out of them - but I still need one or two hype signings.
Broder Salsa
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kottila said:englands new goalie away shirt. LOL
If the English keepers weren't easy enough to make fun of already.
Vivalaraza
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Wow Umbro wtf? A shame cos the new England away shirt itself is really smart.
Daniel Dantas said:
You won the home leg, yeah, but you embarrassed yourselves in the other one almost as badly as my dear Spurs embarrassed themselves against Real Madrid. You lost the tie. How does that prove you can win anything? You can give it a good go and you came mighty close, but you failed. I think Arsenal can easily win trophies with the right additions but this squad will never win anything, it's been clear for several years that they are not strong mentally and it's become a massive weight on the team.
Messi said:
That game wasn't exactly a fluke, however. No one would argue that Barcelona is infinitely more consistent than Arsenal, but when they play each other and all the chips are on the table, Arsenal put up a decent fight, even against Barça. Don't forget that until Van Persie's dubious send-off, Arsenal was ahead on aggregate. Would they have won in the end if it had stayed 11 v 11? Didn't seem likely - but it wasn't a massacre (like the CL final was). I think Barça should definitely respect Arsenal's ability after their CL tie.
Dear God, I'm on the Arsenal defense force. Whatever. I just think they're getting slated a little harder than they deserve.
Ushojax said:
We didn't embarass ourselves in the the return leg at Barca. The stats are pretty ugly, but the sending off of Van Persie was a joke and made the game even harder for us. Fabregas gave them a huge gift for the first goal, and we had a chance to knock them out, and if it was anyone but Bendtner on the end of it, it could have happened.
Anyway, Utd hardly did much better in the final against them, and that was played at Wembley. At least we beat Barca in London
Ushojax said:
spurs was alot worse
and remember van persie couldnt hear 
Kweh said:We didn't embarass ourselves in the the return leg at Barca. The stats are pretty ugly, but the sending off of Van Persie was a joke and made the game even harder for us. Fabregas gave them a huge gift for the first goal, and we had a chance to knock them out, and if it was anyone but Bendtner on the end of it, it could have happened.
Anyway, Utd hardly did much better in the final against them, and that was played at Wembley. At least we beat Barca in London
double agent fabregas is hardly barcs problem
Joel Was Right
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I believe RVP has two years remaining on his contract. Robin told Dutch radio last night we are talking yes, but I want to win trophies and if I dont think i can, I wont sign, this summer will decide
This is definitely an exodus - all our best players don't suddenly start to want moves for bigger salaries when we've never been the highest paid team in the league. It is more than likely that Arsenal will be forced to be in the same position with Robin next summer as they are with Nasri now.
This is definitely an exodus - all our best players don't suddenly start to want moves for bigger salaries when we've never been the highest paid team in the league. It is more than likely that Arsenal will be forced to be in the same position with Robin next summer as they are with Nasri now.
Arsenal look like the side most likely to drop out of the top 4, esp if they lose these players and don't bring in good replacements. One or two people in here, believing wenger's nonsense that this team can win trophies. Not unless the squad is strengthened so when the inevitable injury crisis that arsenal has every season can be handled, and it might stop the other thing that happens in the last few season, Arsenal selfimpoding. Arsenal needs a captain, haven't had a good one since the likes of adams and viera. And they need to be a tougher, there seen as too ligtweight now. Its hard to imagine that this club produced the invincibles
Broder Salsa
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Don't worry. Djourou is back now, no need for new defenders or a new captain when they got him right there. Bendtner has also shown to be a good enough replacement on the wing. Let them buy some unproven youngsters instead to help them win titles.
We were linked with Samba, who would be a good signing. We need a huge presence in defence, Sol Campbell-esque, but that seems to have died down.
What we don't need next season is a situation where we have to rely on Koscielny and Squillaci pairing up.
Keeping Vermaelen and Djourou fit and bringing in someone like Samba would help us no end. There is talk of Cahill coming, I'm not that huge a fan of his, but he's better than Kos and Squilacci.
Even with Cesc leaving, our midfield is not in bad shape if you include Nasri, which makes it even more frustrating that he might leave!
What we don't need next season is a situation where we have to rely on Koscielny and Squillaci pairing up.
Keeping Vermaelen and Djourou fit and bringing in someone like Samba would help us no end. There is talk of Cahill coming, I'm not that huge a fan of his, but he's better than Kos and Squilacci.
Even with Cesc leaving, our midfield is not in bad shape if you include Nasri, which makes it even more frustrating that he might leave!
DOBERMAN INC
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Greyface said:
Yeah, I heard if they didn't agree by today Wenger would start reviewing offers for them.
KidA Seven
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kottila said:
Hahaha Joe Hart has to wear that.
magnificent83
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Daniel Dantas said:
ok, in that vein, I also hate Real Madrid, did you see how those thugs played Barca in April and May, fouling and kicking Messi.
/sarcasm.
Remember who they were playing and what was at stake. Ivory Coast had to shake Brazil somehow and typically, since thou can't out-Brazil, Brazil, you play them hard.
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