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FootballSoccerFútbolFussball Thread 2010/2011 |OT2|
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I simply can't stomach any more of Kermit's posts. No offence - but you're easily one of the worst posters in this thread. You're ignorant, aggressive and your constant attacking of fans whose clubs you deem inferior to own is completely ridiculous.
While I'm no fan of some of the Man Utd posters in here they don't come close to your drivel. Sometimes we try to respect each other's clubs - acknowledge teams who are playing well and who have been successful. Arsenal haven't won anything in 6/7 years - they still play the most attractive football in the league. And if my club spent hundreds of millions to just rely on Carlos Tevez to win us games I'd be extremely disappointed.
But then maybe I'm 'butt-hurt' or 'jealous' of your club; whichever you prefer.
While I'm no fan of some of the Man Utd posters in here they don't come close to your drivel. Sometimes we try to respect each other's clubs - acknowledge teams who are playing well and who have been successful. Arsenal haven't won anything in 6/7 years - they still play the most attractive football in the league. And if my club spent hundreds of millions to just rely on Carlos Tevez to win us games I'd be extremely disappointed.
But then maybe I'm 'butt-hurt' or 'jealous' of your club; whichever you prefer.
Steverulez
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near said:
At this point i'd be surprised if we didn't get Falcao, and it would be a good signing. I guess it depends what formation AVB wants to play though.
All of this Arsenal bashing in the past few pages is really unjustified. We came really reallyMoobabe said:
close to more than 1 trophy last season. City and Chelsea only finished higher than us because of our capitulation at the end of the season but we showed enough in the league that we are the superior side to City despite them finishing higher than us in the end. I don't want a mass cleanout of our players, we are really close to a winning formula and it's the sole reason why I pray that Arsenal hold onto Fabregas for all he's worth.
Our leaky defence needs to be fixed and a proper backup striker for Van Persie is imo all we really need. Other than that we just need to hold onto our players.
Broder Salsa
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faridmon said:
Not if Chelsea finally get rid of Anelka and Kalou.
Vivalaraza
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You forgot about the website..Moobabe said:
Are they, though? I have talked to lot of Chelsea fans, and they simply adore Kalou, while they say Anelka could be there just because he is an impact sub.BatmanBatmanBatman said:
Well don mate. You are my new hero from now on.Moobabe said:
Yeah, he comes as childish and as aggressive as you might except from... actually I can't think of any really. The day we beat Man City is the day I gave up on any Man City fans here to be reasonable with. I just ignore what he says, to be honest. But yeah, he drives me crazy as well.
LabouredSubterfuge
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farhatraza said:
And you forgot about the sponsor and marketing award.
Broder Salsa
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faridmon said:
Really? He is easily one of the most disliked players by chelsea fans, even got compilation videos that are constantly updated with his mistakes and misses. Anelka is also disliked by many just for his amazingly shitty attitude and I want that out of Chelsea, he can fuck off.
Don't see why you believe that Liverpool won't be able to finish in the top 3. They bought Suarez and Carroll. Played most of the season without Gerrard. Have good potential in youth players, spearing, robinson, etc. They play like a better team since Daglish started to manage them and they beat both united and city. IMO, Won't be suprised if they finish ahead of city.Kermit The Dog said:
Vivalaraza
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My bad =(LabouredSubterfuge said:
LabouredSubterfuge
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Wes said:
Good signing if true. I really rate him. Especially if you could knock the twatishness out of him.
The league table doesn't lie, the end-of-season capitulation had become a habit rather than an anomaly, and getting close is no substitute for actually winning the damn thing. Let's not forget that Liverpool finished second, were pretty close themselves, then sold their best midfielder to some Spanish team and dropped out of the Top 4. Oh, and the claim of playing the best football in the league is debatable at best. I saw many boring games involving the Arse last season where your players spent the 90 mins aimlessly passing the ball sideways (only to be undone by a header from a set piece). I believe that other teams who can play a couple of different attacking styles, from the pass and move to the dribble and cross, play much better football than Arsenal.Lightning said:
Disclaimer: I like Arsenal the least of all the Premiership clubs and do enjoy the schadenfreude when they've crashed and burned in the previous 5 seasons so make of that what you will
near
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Greyface said:The league table doesn't lie, the end-of-season capitulation had become a habit rather than an anomaly, and getting close is no substitute for actually winning the damn thing. Let's not forget that Liverpool finished second, were pretty close themselves, then sold their best midfielder to some Spanish team and dropped out of the Top 4. Oh, and the claim of playing the best football in the league is debatable at best. I saw many boring games involving the Arse last season where your players spent the 90 mins aimlessly passing the ball sideways (only to be undone by a header from a set piece). I believe that other teams who can play a couple of different attacking styles, from the pass and move to the dribble and cross, play much better football than Arsenal.
Disclaimer: I like Arsenal the least of all the Premiership clubs and do enjoy the schadenfreude when they've crashed and burned in the previous 5 seasons so make of that what you will
I disagree. I think a team can have a good season even if they're trophy-less in the end. Fair enough Arsenal have disrupted good form and as a consequence sold there title chances, however they played good football for prolonged periods of the season which enabled them to lead the table at times, they demonstrated they can go head-to-head with the arguably the best team in the world - Barcelona - by beating them with what was one of the most entertaining comebacks of the season. They challenged for the quadruple at the later stages of each competition and at one point seriously looked as though it could have been there year. To suddenly disregard such strives for 2 weeks of football which had them knocked out of most competitions does not equate to a poor season. Need I say it: I'm a Spurs born lover.
Vivalaraza
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The thing is, that final step that gets you over the line, in my opinion, is the biggest step of all. So whilst Arsenal were oh so near...they were yet so far. They bottled games in March for example...the pressure by the end of April and May is higher still...
Well, if your standards are merely qualifying for the champions league then of course you had a great season. Spurs would be oh so happy to be in your place. Of course, some might argue that Arsenal is a big club, 3rd most successful in the history of English football (second at the time Wenger joined) and given the resources at their disposal and the prices they charge their fans, and should be winning trophies every other season as befits their status. (those people are fools and know nothing about football of course.)near said:
edit: I see what you did there.
near
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Greyface said:
No ones stating that there ambitions were to merely qualify for CL, as they had actually competed very well for the league for the majority of the season - I'm pretty sure Arsene was disappointed to not have one the PL. However that doesn't necessarily define the campaign as poor. They were unsuccessful in achieving trophies, yes, but we should not necessarily disqualify there efforts.
Vivalaraza
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That's true, I suppose it's just what was shaping up to be such a promising and successful campaign floundered so it's now looked at in that context. There's just this inevitability about Arsenal letting it all slip through their hands if you know what I mean..near said:
As for now, the rumours of losing Nasri and Cesc is what's driving the negativity towards Arsenal. If that money is used well though they could be a better team than last year, we'll find out!
near
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farhatraza said:
Yeah, if I was an Arsenal fan I'd probably be very pissed off. But from a neutral stand point they compete well at times and are entertaining to watch (for better and for worse). I do find it hilarious every season how they bottle it towards the end, but I'd be a fool to discredit there efforts.
The transfer situation they're under right now is unbelievable to be honest. At a season where the board and Arsene are really being pushed by fans to sign players, there very own want out. Shame really.
I don't agree. While you are correct that getting close is no substitute for winning it showed just how close we really are and mass changes are not neccessary. Man City and Chelsea only over took us in the last 4 weeks of the season where for majority part we were the much better side. In the case of Man City who I think are a long way from being successful despite finishing 3rd and the FA cup. Man City want to succeed by going into games with the purpose of not losing and just playing out boring draws. They are a totally negative side who can only achieve anything by trying to buy it.Greyface said:The league table doesn't lie, the end-of-season capitulation had become a habit rather than an anomaly, and getting close is no substitute for actually winning the damn thing. Let's not forget that Liverpool finished second, were pretty close themselves, then sold their best midfielder to some Spanish team and dropped out of the Top 4. Oh, and the claim of playing the best football in the league is debatable at best. I saw many boring games involving the Arse last season where your players spent the 90 mins aimlessly passing the ball sideways (only to be undone by a header from a set piece). I believe that other teams who can play a couple of different attacking styles, from the pass and move to the dribble and cross, play much better football than Arsenal.
Disclaimer: I like Arsenal the least of all the Premiership clubs and do enjoy the schadenfreude when they've crashed and burned in the previous 5 seasons so make of that what you will
IMO I don't want Arsenal to splash out 100+ million on stupid transfers, offer absolutely stupid wages and over pay players to hell, then I wouldn't celebrate even if we did win it because we brought it and didn't earn it.
Man City and Chelsea are a joke and I don't want success their way. I take my hat off to Utd, they earned their success, our top 4 competitors not so much...
And this is what Arsenal should really be preventing. The problem is Nasri is not worth the wages he is demanding and Clichy' heart just isn't at Arsenal anymore.near said:
I'm sure Fabregas can be persuaded to stay another year if Wenger tries hard enough.
Greyface said:
edit: just to agree with this and add on.
I am not an Arsenal fan but I believe they play the most attractive football in the EPL and they are the team who most handily took on Barcelona this year.
It must be maddening to see them not have the fortitude to be able to just kill a game off when they are in control.
But its also true that just about any team would take Wenger as their manager. Great at operating on a budget AND creates teams that play beautiful football. Great great manager. Deserves more from his players imho.
near
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Greyface said:
I agree with this. If they gave their best effort throughout the season they would've probably won the league, but the lack consistency.
Lightning said:
Who's the highest paid player at Arsenal? And what are his wages? Do we know? I'm curious because I know Arsenal love to cut corners with expenditure.
near
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Lightning said:
Damn. I thought it'd be in the region of £80,000 - 98,000 never expected it to exceed that. He is totally not worth those salaries, but I guess its the price they paid to keep in-demand potential. If Nasri is demanding more than that or similar I think Arsene will just let him go, I know I would.
As of this post, Real Madrid have entered race for Cesc Fabregas.
It is understood that Real value the player at 50million (£45m), which is far closer to Arsenal's asking price than Barcelona have reached.
It is understood that Real value the player at 50million (£45m), which is far closer to Arsenal's asking price than Barcelona have reached.
Vivalaraza
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They're just boosting the price. Cesc won't play for them. Esp not when he knows Barca are in for him.Zibrahim said:As of this post, Real Madrid have entered race for Cesc Fabregas.
It is understood that Real value the player at 50million (£45m), which is far closer to Arsenal's asking price than Barcelona have reached.
Zibrahim said:As of this post, Real Madrid have entered race for Cesc Fabregas.
It is understood that Real value the player at 50million (£45m), which is far closer to Arsenal's asking price than Barcelona have reached.
I don't even know whatever the fuck anymore... this is some ridiculous shit. Not only are Atlético raping us every year with their shitty business deals (Simão, Reyes, Roberto, Salvio), now Barça's B team is good enough for us. It's going to be a great year, I can already tell.
I hope Salvio has a crap season and we buy him next year. Jesus.
Jeff Albertson
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Moobabe said:
Spot on, his arrogance about City is astounding and anyone who disagrees is simply jealous apparently.
Maybe I'm still holding a grudge seeing his first notable contribution was telling me to shut the fuck up.
I have nothing against City and dc89 (is that right I have a bad mem) is sound but Kermit and that other dick who spat his dummy out when Everton beat them are warts on the shaft of the thread at times.
Dude needs to chill out.
Milchmonster
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lolClegg said:
Neither would Fabregas play for Real nor does Real really want Fabregas. That's just Mourinho trying to make Barca's targets more expensive.
I see Kermit still hasn't bothered to qualify his "all about the top 3" and "Liverpool and Spurs aren't at that level" points yet either.
Fact is Kermit, you don't have a clue whether we or Spurs will be at that level or not - for starters there's still the small matter of the transfer window to go, who knows what reinforcements each club will bring in?
I can't speak much for Spurs, as for Liverpool though, we would have been third in the league had the table been started when Kenny took over. No, that's not an "if only the league had started then..." point, it's to show that since Kenny took over we've made a massive improvement in all areas. With some good signings in the summer, who knows where we'll be next year? I don't, and you don't either. Nobody does.
Fact is Kermit, you don't have a clue whether we or Spurs will be at that level or not - for starters there's still the small matter of the transfer window to go, who knows what reinforcements each club will bring in?
I can't speak much for Spurs, as for Liverpool though, we would have been third in the league had the table been started when Kenny took over. No, that's not an "if only the league had started then..." point, it's to show that since Kenny took over we've made a massive improvement in all areas. With some good signings in the summer, who knows where we'll be next year? I don't, and you don't either. Nobody does.
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