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Football•Soccer•Fútbol•Fussball Thread 2010/2011 |OT2|

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elsk

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Kenka said:
I defintely hope Vidal stays. Leverkusan has to be competitive in the CL somehow. Imagine Lyon selling Hugo Lloris for 15M €. That would be as dumb.

He would leave next season for free, then. (to Bayern)
 

DD

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If you can't beat them, hit them?


Sorry, I can't respect players that try to break someone's leg.

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danwarb

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Kenny Dalglish today received an honorary degree from the University of Ulster for his services to football and charitable activity - making the King a Doctor of Science (DSc).

The Liverpool boss collected his doctorate at a ceremony at Waterfront Hall in Belfast on Friday.

Away from the field, Dalglish has worked tirelessly with wife Marina to raise money for local cancer charities.

Via the Marina Dalglish Appeal, the pair helped to open chemotherapy and radiotherapy centres on Merseyside.
 

Feorax

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BBC reporting no bids for Chamberlaine. Thought for certain hed be off to Arsenal. Might still be though.

I reckon we should definately put in a bid. He's young, homegrown, and will likely get some 1st team opportunities given how barren our wings are.
 

K1LLER7

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Salazar said:
Pshaw.

I am feeling a primal longing for positive United transfer news. Has this sensation been mapped to a gene, a hormone ?
Good news (i think) fergie wanted to sign all his players before they left for pre season and they leave july 10th. Soooooo, possible signing in the next 10 days.

seeing that van persie may leave, who would you want in your team: van persie or nasri?
 
K1LLER7 said:
Good news (i think) fergie wanted to sign all his players before they left for pre season and they leave july 10th. Soooooo, possible signing in the next 10 days.

seeing that van persie may leave, who would you want in your team: van persie or nasri?
I'd pick Nasri but RVP is class. We have good striker options already and RVP is quite injury prone.

As far as United signing Nasri, whilst I'd love it if we could, not sure he can play in a 2 man CM.
 
farhatraza said:
I'd pick Nasri but RVP is class. We have good striker options already and RVP is quite injury prone.

As far as United signing Nasri, whilst I'd love it if we could, not sure he can play in a 2 man CM.

Something something Giggs.
 

operon

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K1LLER7 said:
Good news (i think) fergie wanted to sign all his players before they left for pre season and they leave july 10th. Soooooo, possible signing in the next 10 days.

seeing that van persie may leave, who would you want in your team: van persie or nasri?

I'd pick van persie, but you'd have to ban him from playing international friendles, he always get injured playing in them for the netherlands
 
Chelsea in for Dann or Cahill

I'd rather have Dann as he's younger not that Cahill isn't great. Does this mean that Alex will go to Bayern? Wouldn't be too disappointed if we got a good replacement. I don't want Luiz to leave though, a future partnership of Luiz and Dann could be good for us.

Concerning times to be an Arsenal fan at the moment though, if all 3 do leave they'll have a lot of money but it depends who is brought in to replace them...
 

Guileless

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Hank Winter: "A composed, attentive figure encountered in the Bobby Tambling Suite at the Bridge on Wednesday, the prodigy from Portugal was immediately, undeniably, unforgettably impressive. Forget the good looks that will have Tatler, Vogue and Hello! scrambling their 'Portuguese Man Of Phwoar’ headline-writers. The Noble One seems an intelligent football man going places without feeling a need to trample on those moving less quickly. No arrogance. No ego. Chelsea, too often the club of crass, have bought some dignity in Villas-Boas. "
 

K1LLER7

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LabouredSubterfuge said:
RVP and Rooney would be a pretty disgusting partnership.
both can play on the wings too with chica up front. Hope arsenal can qualify for the champions league, arsenal v barca was always entertaining.
 

GQman2121

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Feorax said:
BBC reporting no bids for Chamberlaine. Thought for certain hed be off to Arsenal. Might still be though.

I reckon we should definately put in a bid. He's young, homegrown, and will likely get some 1st team opportunities given how barren our wings are.
No bids, but Sky is reporting Arse still have a heavy interest since Nasri seems like he's definitely moving on. They want £15 apparently. Seems kind of high, but I suppose he is English.

I like those Southamton shirts.
 
Tim the Wiz said:
Wow, if Chelsea takes Cahill and Blackburn asks for a crazy fee in regard to Samba, who does Wenger go after in defence?

Well they have been interested in Zanka for a long time, 21 year old and loves to fall asleep during matches, will fit right in.
 
Kweh said:
Money. Yep.
Success. Nope.

City finished a whole 1 place higher than us for the first time in forever, and finally won a cup. Great. Try finishing in the top 4 for 15 years.

Nasri doesn't need to leave us. Success wise, the only step up for him in the PL would be signing for Chelsea or United. We have as much a chance of winning anything next season as the likes of City, Liverpool, Spurs etc do.

Very few players have left Arsenal and had success, Nasri going to City will be another.

I tempted to get the 'HE MAD' gif out, but I know you're hurting so I'll leave it. Past success has no relevance to future success. The way City finished last season and the resources at our disposal means we will be fighting it out with United and Chelsea for top spot on the table. Arsenal doesn't have what it takes at the current time, nor do Liverpool or Tottenham. Forget the Top 4, the next few years is going to be all about the Top 3.

Actually, fuck it:

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rvy

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Kermit The Dog said:
I tempted to get the 'HE MAD' gif out, but I know you're hurting so I'll leave it. Past success has no relevance to future success. The way City finished last season and the resources at our disposal means we will be fighting it out with United and Chelsea for top spot on the table. Arsenal doesn't have what it takes at the current time, nor do Liverpool or Tottenham. Forget the Top 4, the next few years is going to be all about the Top 3.

Actually, fuck it:

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Should be fun to watch.
 
Rangers fan here. Was happy that the takeover went through at the end of the season and thought we would atleast get some decent quality in over the summer. So far we have lost out on 3 or 4 players on a bosman. Then get told that they weren't the "priority targets".

Couple of things still in the works, hopefully some of them come off because we need players in for these Champions League Qualifiers and would be nice to give them a bit of time with the squad.
 

GQman2121

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Even with Arse, seemingly regressing this summer, I still think with the way Liverpool finished that its going to be a four and possibly five team battle at the top.
 
Seep said:
Clichy to City! didn't Kolarov cost them 18 mil just recently?

Some shite scouts at City if this goes through.

Kolarov isn't worth 18 on the best day of his life, but I think 7m is pretty good for Clichy.

City completely overhauled their scouting department/philosophy in recent times. Like I said a few days ago, the days of seeing ridiculous transfer fees for average players is probably done from a City perspective.

I guess it's up to debate whether Clichy is worthy the effort, though.

Bullshit. Milner for £25 million was a bargain.

I think you're forgetting Robinho at 33 million. Paid for itself the same day!
 
Seep said:
Holy shit I forgot about him, where'd he go?

He's still at City, and had a strong finish to the season, but he hasn't had the impact City would have liked. Mancini's negative style usually meant he was left out for a defensive midfielder. Only when Mancini was going for a win was Milner used, and let's be honest, that was rare. :lol
 

faridmon

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Shake Appeal said:
You are underestimating Pastore, underestimating Sanchez, underestimating Serie A, and most of all underestimating the showman that is Maurizio Zamparini.
Sorry, but Serie A lately are shit. And Certainly Palermo are. Think of it as Blackpool and Charlie Adams. He is talented, but he apears more obviously out of medicore team. I am not saying Sanchez and Pastore are bad, but not certainly as talnetd as those price tags are making them to be.

I really really think that they will flop big tiem when they leave Seria A. Mark my Word.
 
faridmon said:
Sorry, but Serie A lately are shit. And Certainly Palermo are. Think of it as Blackpool and Charlie Adams. He is talented, but he apears more obviously out of medicore team. I am not saying Sanchez and Pastore are bad, but not certainly as talnetd as those price tags are making them to be.

I really really think that they will flop big tiem when they leave Seria A. Mark my Word.

Why do you believe Sanchez isn't worth it?
 

guidop

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faridmon said:
Sorry, but Serie A lately are shit. And Certainly Palermo are. Think of it as Blackpool and Charlie Adams. He is talented, but he apears more obviously out of medicore team. I am not saying Sanchez and Pastore are bad, but not certainly as talnetd as those price tags are making them to be.

I really really think that they will flop big tiem when they leave Seria A. Mark my Word.

Pastore might, Sanchez won't. Pastore was pretty awesome at the start of the season which is what inflated his price so much but completely tailed off along with Palermo after the break. Sanchez I think was the most fouled player in Seria A and copped some very cynical stuff along the way, he could go anywhere and be a star. I'd like him to stay with Udinese though. His partnership with Di Natale was exciting to watch and they could easily be a quarter final team in next years CL given the right draw.
 

Kweh

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Kermit The Dog said:
I tempted to get the 'HE MAD' gif out, but I know you're hurting so I'll leave it. Past success has no relevance to future success. The way City finished last season and the resources at our disposal means we will be fighting it out with United and Chelsea for top spot on the table. Arsenal doesn't have what it takes at the current time, nor do Liverpool or Tottenham. Forget the Top 4, the next few years is going to be all about the Top 3.

Actually, fuck it:

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It's more frustration than hurting, since nothing has actually transpired yet. Not even the Cesc transfer. But, to think that Nasri will possibly take the money and run to a club that isn't guaranteed to win more than us over the next 5 years is very disappointing.

We didn't have a bad season overall, despite some of the bizarre results, especially at home. When the title race went down to 3 teams with a matter of weeks to go, we were one of the 3, City weren't. Once we were out of that, we just gave up, had our bogey fixtures (Stoke away). We got to the final of the League Cup and lost in the last minute, lost to Utd at OT in the FA Cup, and were knocked out over 2 legs against Barcelona.

City won the FA Cup, but you didn't play anyone too difficult until Man Utd, which was at Wembley, and thats the best chance a team is going to have to beat them, especially when they had an off day.

City were also the cause for one of the most boring games I have ever had to sit through at the Emirates. They were so anti-football it was unbelievable. Parked the bus from the kick-off. If that is what City have to offer their fans when they play away against their rivals, then roll on next year :|. Can't wait to see them storm the premiership with that kind of football.

Still, at least we tonked you at your ground eh. "B-b-but we had a player sent off!!" ;)
 

faridmon

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Kermit The Dog said:
Why do you believe Sanchez isn't worth it?
Because the reason why he is good in the first place is because Guidolin. That gusy is teh one who made Udinese play attractive football of 433 where Sanchez could link up with other attcking roles easily. In fact I say He wouldn't play this good with Di Natalia and Corradi.

The guy is quite good. I watched him at WC and did impressed me. However, he seems to likek to play in these attacking formations which many teams don't play like that. He would not fit at City, Man U, Chelsea, etc...

He may fit at Barca, since they do play that attacking traingle play where the stretch out teams. But they do rely on methodical play which he can isn't apt to handle.

He is good, but not as good as those price tags really make him up. However, maybe I should feel happy since it means that not only English players should be overpriced...
 

faridmon

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guidop said:
Pastore might, Sanchez won't. Pastore was pretty awesome at the start of the season which is what inflated his price so much but completely tailed off along with Palermo after the break. Sanchez I think was the most fouled player in Seria A and copped some very cynical stuff along the way, he could go anywhere and be a star. I'd like him to stay with Udinese though. His partnership with Di Natale was exciting to watch and they could easily be a quarter final team in next years CL given the right draw.
Well, you might be right. Personally speaking I am not that good in predicting who to flop and not unless price tag is involved. The only thing that gives me the hint of them flopping is that they might feel pressurised by the importance given to them from the money the club have splashed for them. Sanchez, I think is good for attacking style of Udinese. If leaves, He won't feel at home since he does rely on support from other attckers rather than midfield. Hnce me saying he won't be successful. Pastore might just be another one of those who plays good if the others are playing good and certainly will have his confidence crushed if he moves to city for example
where losing against us is quite the norm
and that will devaluate his playing style.
 

Arnie

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faridmon said:
Because the reason why he is good in the first place is because Guidolin. That gusy is teh one who made Udinese play attractive football of 433 where Sanchez could link up with other attcking roles easily. In fact I say He wouldn't play this good with Di Natalia and Corradi.

The guy is quite good. I watched him at WC and did impressed me. However, he seems to likek to play in these attacking formations which many teams don't play like that. He would not fit at City, Man U, Chelsea, etc...

He may fit at Barca, since they do play that attacking traingle play where the stretch out teams. But they do rely on methodical play which he can isn't apt to handle.

He is good, but not as good as those price tags really make him up. However, maybe I should feel happy since it means that not only English players should be overpriced...
He may fit at Chelsea if Villas Boas comments about playing with flair come to fruition, especially as Boas seems to prefer a 4-3-3 formation too.

But you're right, at City? No they play far too defensively.
 
elsk said:
Oil money?

Exactly. It's good, isn't it. :lol

It's more frustration than hurting, since nothing has actually transpired yet. Not even the Cesc transfer. But, to think that Nasri will possibly take the money and run to a club that isn't guaranteed to win more than us over the next 5 years is very disappointing.

City's star is climbing, whereas Arsenal is floundering. I'll never understand football disloyalty to the extent you see in European football, but as it seems to be the norm, you can't blame him for chasing success. You'd be hard pressed to find many people who would argue Arsenal is closer to success than City. You're in a rebuilding stage now, and it will take time. Nasri's been through it, he obviously wants a shot at immediate success.

Most importantly, you're no guarantee to play CL football next season. We are.

We didn't have a bad season overall, despite some of the bizarre results, especially at home. When the title race went down to 3 teams with a matter of weeks to go, we were one of the 3, City weren't. Once we were out of that, we just gave up, had our bogey fixtures (Stoke away). We got to the final of the League Cup and lost in the last minute, lost to Utd at OT in the FA Cup, and were knocked out over 2 legs against Barcelona.

So the fact Arsenal gave in when the going was tough, and City stepped up and earned the 3 points when it mattered most, helps your argument how?

City won the FA Cup, but you didn't play anyone too difficult until Man Utd

Neither did you, neither did United, but we were able to overcome the hurdle when it mattered. I mean, City's last 25 years has been a masterclass of failing at the most inopportune moment. The fact we stuck one up our neighbours on a big stage buried many, many City demons.

Wembley, and thats the best chance a team is going to have to beat them, especially when they had an off day.

Since when has City played well at Wembley? That was a fallacy about United, Ferguson runs the tightest ship in the world and I refuse to believe he'd allow his players to be bothered with something as inane as a Wembley curse. City were the better team on the day. Simple.

C
ity were also the cause for one of the most boring games I have ever had to sit through at the Emirates. They were so anti-football it was unbelievable. Parked the bus from the kick-off. If that is what City have to offer their fans when they play away against their rivals, then roll on next year :|. Can't wait to see them storm the premiership with that kind of football.

That was nothing. You didn't have to sit through our Europa League games.

Still, we also participated in one of the most scintillating games of the season against Tottenham when Joe Hart single-handily kept us in it. You can pick and choose, I can pick and choose. No denying Mancini went in to many games overtly negative, but we can play exciting football as good as the rest.

Still, at least we tonked you at your ground eh. "B-b-but we had a player sent off!!" ;)

In regards to the Boyota sending off, most of the media brushed the Arsenal win aside and blamed the early sending off for the result, but I agree that we were never going to beat you that day anyway.
 
Kweh said:
Nasri doesn't need to leave us. Success wise, the only step up for him in the PL would be signing for Chelsea or United. We have as much a chance of winning anything next season as the likes of City, Liverpool, Spurs etc do.

Barclays Premier League 2011/2012 (League Winner)

Man Utd 7/4
Chelsea 5/2

Man C
7/2
Arsnal
8/1

L'pool 10/1
Spurs 50/1

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DominoKid

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even the best players only have about 15 years in their career. why shouldnt they try to maximize their earnings and winning potential. i dont blame them for being mercenaries.

its the players that already have it all and then demand even more (ex. Rooney) that annoy me.
 

Clegg

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Has anyone here seen Yann M'Vila play?There are rumours that United are interested in signing him.Is he worthy of all the hype?
 

near

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So with the heart of Arsenals squad looking to seek success elsewhere I wonder how Wenger will cope with all these significant losses? How will he possibly replace indispensable players in a short period of time and yet blend them all during pre-season? I think at this point its just speculation on where they'll all end up or if they'll stay put but the possible outcome certainly has me believe they won't place a firm bid for the title next season with City, Utd and Chelsea looking to bolster there squads significantly, while Liverpool, Spurs and host of other clubs look to strengthen rather than sell-out. Its bad enough that with Arsenals current squad that they've been unable to achieve anything for over 5 years, but now things look like they'll be going down hill further. Are we waving goodbye to the Arsenal we loved to watch?

Possible outs:
Fabregas to Barcelona
Nasri to Man City
Clichy to Man City
Bentner to Dortmund

Possible ins:
Gervinho
Samba
Alvarez
 

faridmon

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Arnie said:
He may fit at Chelsea if Villas Boas comments about playing with flair come to fruition, especially as Boas seems to prefer a 4-3-3 formation too.

But you're right, at City? No they play far too defensively.
Aye, I forgot about Chelsea and their new Manager. If Villas Boas is telling the truth, then he may fit in. But to be honest with you they have way too many strikers already.

Maybe Liverpool, The play some atatcking football with wing option. But I don't think you lot will fork those stupid amount of money which only insane football teams will pay.
 

near

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elsk said:
There's a rumor around: Falcao to Chelsea this summer. What you guys think?

Its possible, he has stated that he wants to test himself in England. Its now just a case of AVB wanting he's services at Stamford Bridge. He's release clause is £26million, I don't know whether Chelsea are willing to pay that when they have a list of other targets in mind, so AVB would really have to want him imo.
 
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