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Football•Soccer•Fútbol•Fussball Thread 2010/2011 |OT2|

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GQman2121

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So its jumped £5 in the last hour. Nice.

Where is he right now anyway? Is he home? In England? On holiday? For some reason his whereabouts interest me right now.
 
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Yurt

il capo silenzioso
Ashes1396 said:
Corinthian bid $40 million for tevez.
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I don't think City want to sell him :p Now they'll ask for the full 56 million.

Where is he right now anyway? Is he home? In England? On holiday? For some reason his whereabouts interest me right now.
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Copa America -_-
 
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Grover Cleveland

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K1LLER7 said:
Sir Alex on replacing Paul Scholes: "How do you replace somebody like Paul Scholes? It's very difficult. If you bracket four of the best midfield players in the world he'd be alongside Xavi and Iniesta and then you take your pick. In my mind he's one of the top four players in the world. How will we overcome it? Maybe the next few weeks will help us overcome it. Maybe somebody will emerge out of the youth team or one of the young players ermerge, and then we carry on."
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Yes, SAF does have something under his sleeves!

And its name is Tom Cleverley
 
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Ushojax

Should probably not trust the 7-11 security cameras quite so much
rodvik said:
ESPN says thats 40M Euros. Which given ManC wanted 50M pounds is a pretty strong bid.
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Where does a club like Corinthians get that kind of money?
 
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Dark Machine

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Ushojax said:
Where does a club like Corinthians get that kind of money?
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Brazil's an up and coming economy and there's a lot of new rich people there, plus corporations there are getting stronger and investing in advertising/sponsoring with football clubs since they have a reach of over 100million people in Brazil alone. The Brazilian clubs are paying big wages and have lower taxes, Neymar and Ganso are reportedly on 70,000 per week NET.
 
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yellow submarine

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omgkitty said:
As Arsenal have proven, just because you pass the DNA test doesn't mean you come off saving some money.
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Clever. /slow clap

I do think they have a much greater incentive to sell to a club in South America if they can pony up the cash though. I mean, Tevez wanted to be closer to his family and junk right? Same continent is hella better than staying in Europe, and just moving 2 countries over to Italy or Spain.
 
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Brinbe

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Grover Cleveland said:
Yes, SAF does have something under his sleeves!

And its name is Tom Cleverley
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Ha, Tom will get his chances this season for sure. But I'm fairly convinced we'll eventually end up with Sneijder, everything's pointing in that direction and it's just a matter of time.
 
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Salazar

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In an exclusive first newspaper interview since Fifa awarded Qatar the right to host the World Cup on December 2, Hassan al-Thawadi, the bid's chief executive, argued that the suspicion and allegations against the bid are fuelled partly by anti-Arab prejudice.

"I do not believe these claims are being made out of racism," Thawadi said, speaking to the Guardian in Doha, the Qatari capital. "But I genuinely think that ignorance fed into prejudice and made it a more fertile ground for these rumours to take seed and grow. I do believe there is prejudice against the fact that we are a rich, Arab nation – yes, I think there is genuine prejudice there."

Acknowledging that he was awarded a huge budget from Qatar's government to market and support the bid – although he adamantly refused to reveal its true figure – Thawadi insisted the bid was conducted cleanly. He said he had considered establishing an independent investigation, and was going to ask Lord Coe, whose reputation for integrity is high at Fifa, to chair it, but decided there was no reason why he should and it would be unworkable.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jul/11/world-cup-corruption-prejudice-qatar-bid

Prat.
 
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K1LLER7

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Aguero's value going to shoot up after the copa america. 3 goals in 3 matches isn't bad.
Plus seen as city want him, 50 million seems enough ;)
 
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Broder Salsa

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K1LLER7 said:
Aguero's value going to shoot up after the copa america. 3 goals in 3 matches isn't bad.
Plus seen as city want him, 50 million seems enough ;)
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Doubt it. His price has always been huge and I don't really think 3 goals against pretty bad teams with not very impressive defenses is going to make that price much bigger. Clubs and their scouts already knows his qualities from Atletico.
 
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K1LLER7

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BatmanBatmanBatman said:
Doubt it. His price has always been huge and I don't really think 3 goals against pretty bad teams with not very impressive defenses is going to make that price much bigger. Clubs and their scouts already knows his qualities from Atletico.
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True, but players such as tevez, who couldn't score agianst the poor defences and has been awful in the copa america yet he's still going to leave for a price around 45 million. Aguero has been the main player for argentina so athletico wanting more for their player is likey. if he ends up leading scorer, his value would definately increase.
 
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MPW

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Yurt said:
It'll definitely encourage City and Madrid to splash more money to get him.
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city has a better chance to land him

atletico being one of our rivals will only sell to real madrid if pay buyout + extra (forgot the name of the clause, which is a lot)
 
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Blackhead

Redarse
pix said:
Good interview with Wenger about Nasri and Fabregas. Nasri is staying supposedly.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2011/jul/12/arsene-wenger-fabregas-nasri-arsenal
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You think that it is worth more to have Samir for one more season and risk losing him on a Bosman free next summer than to cash in now?
Yes.

That could be construed as a £20m gamble?
[Smiling.] You are the same people who reproach me for not spending money and now you reproach me for wanting to spend it! It is in the interests of the club. Fábregas is in no man's land ... Imagine the worst situation, that we lose Fábregas and Nasri; you cannot convince people that you are ambitious after that. And even if you lose Nasri, to find the same quality player, you have to spend again the same amount of money because you cannot say you lose the player and you do not replace him. And the other clubs who come to take him have scouts all over the world as well but if they come to us for our player ...
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that's the spirit

Would a major signing convince the players who are ambivalent about staying?
What is very difficult for us is that as long as you do not know that this group stays together, you cannot strengthen the team because you think, "If he goes, I have to do what?" I also cannot really tell you [a transfer target], I want you because if he stays, you cannot come in. So you are in no man's land and that is terrible. That is why the transfer period basically should stop when the training starts.
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... :lol
 
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Yurt

il capo silenzioso
MPW said:
city has a better chance to land him

atletico being one of our rivals will only sell to real madrid if pay buyout + extra (forgot the name of the clause, which is a lot)
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Yeah I'm pretty sure City will buy him if they sell Tevez. Which ironically depends on Madrid it seems.

in all cases we're fucked lol.
 
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Kozak

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UV-6 said:
Damn straight. Now the Turkish media can fuck off :)

It's still not over yet though. Now we await the verdict from the pending trial of our president. If he's found guilty of match fixing then we most probably get relegated.
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I doubt anything will happen. If there is so much evidence against Yildirim a verdict would have already been reached.
 
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Fady K

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Man, Argentina played very differently today. Teamwork + Magical play by Messi = GREAT GAME. Finally! Argentina off to the second round.
 
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bonesmccoy

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Salazar said:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jul/11/world-cup-corruption-prejudice-qatar-bid

Prat.
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Wow. It never ceases to amaze me, the self-victimization.

People don't like Qatar getting the cup because (a) it makes no sense and (b) quite clearly won the rights by graft and corruption. It strikes me that this man, and the cadre he represents, believed that having the successful bid would usher in some kind of general acceptance of Qatar into the world scene. Now that his paradigm has been shown to be false, he choses to basically call the rest of the footballing world racists.
 
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Verano

Reads Ace as Lace. May God have mercy on their soul
Fady K said:
Man, Argentina played very differently today. Teamwork + Magical play by Messi = GREAT GAME. Finally! Argentina off to the second round.
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It's Costa ricas u-23 team. Basically a free ride for 3 pts. for argentina. Therefore not much of a challenge for the argie team.
 
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omgkitty

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Milchmonster said:
Are there any rumors about Mertesacker from English media or something?

He said he wants to play in England "some day", Werder Bremen can't afford to sign a new contract with him and they seem to need money to reinvest. I guess if some club is putting in an offer, he's gone. Not sure if anyone wants him, though, he's injured and his last season was pretty bad. There were Arsenal rumors last year, is Wenger still interested? Could work out...
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I have always liked Mertesacker. He's tall and a good player. He was injured a lot last season, and if we brought him in, it means that's less games Squillaci has to play, and we could switch around our defense to see what works best. Think he could come do a job for Arsenal, and for around the 8 or 9 million asking price, I would say he's worth it. He's also still only 26 (about to turn 27) which is a good age for a defender.
 
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Lightning

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omgkitty said:
I have always liked Mertesacker. He's tall and a good player. He was injured a lot last season, and if we brought him in, it means that's less games Squillaci has to play, and we could switch around our defense to see what works best. Think he could come do a job for Arsenal, and for around the 8 or 9 million asking price, I would say he's worth it. He's also still only 26 (about to turn 27) which is a good age for a defender.
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I am not as big a fan of his. I like his height but he is a little slow for my liking and the way Arsenal play I can see this guy getting turned around and run off his feet a lot. Remember, our midfield don't exactly provide great support for our defence.

I would much, much rather Cahill.
 
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Yurt

il capo silenzioso
^ you're right, Mert is good if you're planning to defend really deep. Not for Arsenal.

He's made for Serie A though.
 
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omgkitty

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Lightning said:
I am not as big a fan of his. I like his height but he is a little slow for my liking and the way Arsenal play I can see this guy getting turned around and run off his feet a lot. Remember, our midfield don't exactly provide great support for our defence.

I would much, much rather Cahill.
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He seems to be quick enough for Arsenal in FIFA 11 haha...but then again, I think the AI in FIFA is better than Arsenal's actual defense sometimes. Then again, they're both shit at set piece defense haha
 
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MPW

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Yurt said:
Yeah I'm pretty sure City will buy him if they sell Tevez. Which ironically depends on Madrid it seems.

in all cases we're fucked lol.
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what hurt juve the most is not getting a cl spot

city and madrid can offer aguero cl football, juve can't

Kozak said:
I doubt anything will happen. If there is so much evidence against Yildirim a verdict would have already been reached.
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i guess fener will face punishment in 12/13 season (season after next). everything should go on as normal until the investigation is concluded and court proceedings end.
 
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rodvik

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Greyface said:
Surreal Football Flowchart
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Thanks for these. The Liverpool one made me lol. Not because it is particularly accurate but it so well summarizes the fans of all clubs attitudes to this kind of stuff (including me) from the pre-signing "he is gods gift" talk with the "glad we didnt sign that duffer" when a clubs bid fails.

Good stuff.
 
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Lightning

Banned
I have to say that Wenger's stance on Fabregas has given me a lot of confidence that we may keep our tailsman for yet one more season. His stance on Nasri however I do not support, if Nasri will not sign, then Nasri must go to the highest bidder no matter who he's sold to.

I am particularly happy with Wenger's comments that Barcelona's bids and comments regarding Fabregas' value decreasing to be disrespectful to one of the best midfielders in the game at the moment and understands that the player is worth more than any amount of money to Arsenal. Because that is true, he definitely is.
 
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DominoKid

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Fuck me FM is hard the season after winning the Champions League (MUFC 2013 you heard it first!). It's a fucking game every 3 days. my squad is like 22 deep and the injuries, fatigue and conflicts by January had me pulling up guys from the Reserves and U18s. I'm trying to win all the titles in a season so I can leave at my peak and go elsewhere. I had to get rid of De Gea and Macheda cause they were destroying the team chemistry. Well mainly Macheda, I would come to realize after selling De Gea to Aston Villa.

I fucking walked the League/CL in the 12/13 season. Now I'll be lucky if I just scrape across the finish line. I'm 6 points behind Arsenal (!) with 14 games left.
 
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Roybr

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Corinthians is getting the money from Kia Joorabchian, with bought to Corinthians the Brazilian Serie A in 2005. They even played again 6 matches again and media got a recording from Corinthians ex-president saying they bought the referees.
 
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Salazar

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DominoKid said:
my squad is like 22 deep and the injuries, fatigue and conflicts by January had me pulling up guys from the Reserves and U18s..
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I've had Nani and Giggs break their feet, a long term injury to Rio, a pretty bad injury to Piatti, disciplinary craziness with Vidic.

If I don't win the next few league games, I will be ready to call the season proper fucked.

Real football: there is quite a bit of pressure on any reserve players Ferguson brings up.
 
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DominoKid

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Salazar said:
I've had Nani and Giggs break their feet, a long term injury to Rio, a pretty bad injury to Piatti, disciplinary craziness with Vidic.

If I don't win the next few league games, I will be ready to call the season proper fucked.

Real football: there is quite a bit of pressure on any reserve players Ferguson brings up.
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You kept Giggs? I ditched the whole load (VDS/Scholes/Neville) of retiring players on a free.

I pulled that first league season after my ass. About 27 games in my offense was just awful. I'd only scored about 40 goals and I was tied for first with Arsenal. I took 30 minutes developing a new tactic and perfected it after 3 more games (I still run it in 2014) to go undefeated and finish top with 80 points.

12/13 season (League/CL double year) was funny because I dominated from start to finish and scored a zillion goals and only let in 15 in all competitions. I could set my instructions at the start and come back at halftime to a 3-0 lead. Needless to say I was unprepared for the chaos of the 3rd season. I actually regret ditching Berbatov. He'd finally become reliable but it went against my age policy.
 
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Yurt

il capo silenzioso
MPW said:
what hurt juve the most is not getting a cl spot

city and madrid can offer aguero cl football, juve can't.
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You're right, but this is not the case with Aguero. I remember him saying before going to Copa America that CL won't be a "decisive factor" in his decision. Besides, we're not Man City(with all due respect), expect us to qualify for the CL sooner rather than later. EPL is a lot tougher than Serie A, with a few buys here and there we'll qualify.
 
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Heppell

Banned
Ushojax said:
Where does a club like Corinthians get that kind of money?
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i'd say the government, since they are building there stadium for the world cup and are using it as there main stadium, maybe they want people to fill it out?
 
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rodvik

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Lightning said:
I have to say that Wenger's stance on Fabregas has given me a lot of confidence that we may keep our tailsman for yet one more season. His stance on Nasri however I do not support, if Nasri will not sign, then Nasri must go to the highest bidder no matter who he's sold to.

I am particularly happy with Wenger's comments that Barcelona's bids and comments regarding Fabregas' value decreasing to be disrespectful to one of the best midfielders in the game at the moment and understands that the player is worth more than any amount of money to Arsenal. Because that is true, he definitely is.
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I really liked his answer of (my words -we can afford to run our Nasri's contract because we have been so frugal in the past- its true and he should enjoy a little gloating that this is a case where his past cheapness can be used as leverage.
 
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