How much of this was from hacked accounts?
Not actually sure if significant...
That Celtic shirt is really nice, quite jealous.
Paul Scholes.
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Football Thread 2011/12 |OT10| Silverware, promotion, survival, relegation and tears
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That Celtic shirt is really nice, quite jealous.
Bill and Ben the Flowerpot Men?
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Oh god, Giggs in midfield is an arse rape to our whole team.
And might get Kermit 4 United
Get Hazard 7, just in case.
The worst part is that's kind of what I think SAF thinks.
It's not just United though. I look at Arsenal tying up M'Vila, an absolutely quality signing, then I look at Spearing and Adam in midfield for us. I actually think Henderson is a really top talent, like Jones and Smalling, but he'll only grow when he plays in centre midfield. Against West Brom he was excellent in that position, despite the scoreline.
Still, I don't see enough quality in both our midfields to match Arsenal. If they have M'Vila, Wilshere and Arteta (I personally prefer him to Song) playing then they'll be an absolute force.
Yeahh buddy. When my student loan comes in September I'm gonna get a fuckload of new kits... Madrid, Bilbao, Juve, Roma, Dortmund, probably United away... might get a France with Cabaye on
I wish! This one is fan made. It even includes the Coppa star for some reasonOne more thing to look forward to in the break between the end and start of seasons - new kit reveals. We might have already discussed this in here, but Juve's new home shirt:
I like it.
STOP jinxing it guys!
I won't complain, but I'm sure we can get a little more than that!
The SoccerTriads kits are rated, then? Haha
It just feels like Fergie doesn't place enough emphasis on the CM positions. Football has evolved in such a way now that centre mid is probably the most important position on the pitch and he seems to believe that all our midfielders need to be able to do is get the ball out to the wingers efficiently.
Maybe that will change this summer.
The SoccerTriads kits are rated, then? Haha
The two I ordered were very good quality, happy with them. So fuck spending 40 quid every time I want a shirt haha
France home and away shirts are sexy. Leaning towards the away one currently - it looks really smart.
Love the descriptions for some of these shirts/kit accessories though. Make me laugh:
He was pretty good when he actually had a modicum of pace. He's much better putting in crosses from the wing.
My last kit was one of these:
I much preferred the away blue chevron shirt to the black on the home.
Should probably pick up a new shirt soon, gutted I never got an 18 Scholes, or a Berbatop before he leaves
Would probably pick Valencia on a new one.These players have all been rumoured to be sold this summer by City, I guessed the fees:
Kolarov - £8m?
Adebayor - £12m?
Savic - £4m?
Johnson - £10m?
Dzeko - £16m?
If it happens, they might cover a potential Hazard fee (if he meant City and not Chelsea).
Beside that, City might not buy much more players.
Hart
Zabaleta - Kompany - Lescott - Clichy
Nasri - Yaya - Barry - Silva
Tevez - Aguero
Subs: Pantilimon - Richards, Toure - De Jong, Milner, New Promising Winger - Balotelli
Rest: Taylor - Rekik, New Promising CB - Razak, Suarez, Ibrahim - Guidetti
(Zabaleta can cover Left Back as well. Richards stepping in at RB. Kolo can play both RB and CB. Rekik (CB/LB) is an incredible talent who will get playing time)
This means selling/releasing, if possible (but all not probable):
Kolarov
A Johnson
Savic
Adebayor
Dzeko
Boyata
Bridge
Weiss
Santa Cruz
Hargreaves (Ending contract)
Kolarov - £8m?
Adebayor - £12m?
Savic - £4m?
Johnson - £10m?
Dzeko - £16m?
If it happens, they might cover a potential Hazard fee (if he meant City and not Chelsea).
Beside that, City might not buy much more players.
Hart
Zabaleta - Kompany - Lescott - Clichy
Nasri - Yaya - Barry - Silva
Tevez - Aguero
Subs: Pantilimon - Richards, Toure - De Jong, Milner, New Promising Winger - Balotelli
Rest: Taylor - Rekik, New Promising CB - Razak, Suarez, Ibrahim - Guidetti
(Zabaleta can cover Left Back as well. Richards stepping in at RB. Kolo can play both RB and CB. Rekik (CB/LB) is an incredible talent who will get playing time)
This means selling/releasing, if possible (but all not probable):
Kolarov
A Johnson
Savic
Adebayor
Dzeko
Boyata
Bridge
Weiss
Santa Cruz
Hargreaves (Ending contract)
I think Uniteds problem is the formation. SAF likes playing with a 2 man midfield. For that to work we need 2 decent passers of the ball. I wanted M'Vila at United but he isn't the kind of player SAF wants imo. M'Vila is a great holding midfielder but isn't very creative. If we played a 3 man midfield then he'd be perfect. But a 2 man midfield restricts us when we go looking for new midfielders.I think SAF wants a creative passer that can operate from the middle of the pitch and can play in a 2 man midfield. This would allow him to keep his wingers. The problem for us is that there aren't that many players that could fulfill that role to the standard that SAF clearly wants. There is Modric at Spurs and Xavi and Iniesta at Barca but we don't really have a chance of signing those.
This is why I'm so skeptical of us going for Kagawa. He operates best when playing behind the striker. He isn't a CM which is what SAF is looking for. Buying Kagawa would mean changing the formation to accommodate him. Rooney would probably be shifted to the centre forward position and SAF would have to drop Welbeck.
Fixed?
I'm not entirely sure Dzeko would suit the style of play in Serie A. It's very different to England and Germany were strength and exceptional aerial ability can get you far. I'm not saying he's a crock with his feet, far from it, just that his greatest strengths don't really pair up with that league.
Not that it will happen but I think Van Persie's a perfect fit for Juve. Someone who's technically superb so when Pirlo threads the ball through it's almost a certain goal.
Jesus christ, just imagine Buffon, Chiellini, Pirlo and Van Persie. That's a spine of absolute superlatives.
With Juve though, their midfielders do great work and they need someone just to finish the move off. If Dzeko's available they should take a punt.
Van Persie though, agreed. Won't happen though. Realistically, I can see Dzeko happening.
There is a strong buzz coming from the staff room that Barkley is not get used for the last game of the season because he will be sold. Moyes does not want him to be integral part of the team and does not want the fans to be too much attached to him (just like Rooney)
That really sucks. he is a massive talent and the way he played showed how much passion he had for the team. Even to this day, he is still a great fan of the club and supports the lad all the way. However, I don't know if withholding a massive talent is great idea. Moyes likes to coach players how the hell he wants (which are bloody stupid) and the last time we had a talent, he was coached out of playing a great football to be just a static as Arteta when he left for Arsenal.
Hope for Rodwell to come back stronger than ever, but the guy is pretty much done for in terms of his creativity and technique.
That really sucks. he is a massive talent and the way he played showed how much passion he had for the team. Even to this day, he is still a great fan of the club and supports the lad all the way. However, I don't know if withholding a massive talent is great idea. Moyes likes to coach players how the hell he wants (which are bloody stupid) and the last time we had a talent, he was coached out of playing a great football to be just a static as Arteta when he left for Arsenal.
Hope for Rodwell to come back stronger than ever, but the guy is pretty much done for in terms of his creativity and technique.
True. Torres has been floated about too, which I don't think is a terrible shout. It's less physical and Juve play the sort of through balls that he loves to run onto, rather than the fairly cumbersome and one note service he's received at Chelsea.
Torres would be better for them. If Juve get a great winger and someone like Cavani, they'll be near unstoppable for a year or two before Pirlo needs replacing.
HOLD ME
You're late.
Problem is that with Drogba unlikely to renew for another year, Torres won't be going anywhere. If he did, Chelsea would probably need to try and get the entire £50 million back to replace their main 2 striking options.
Just googled Soccer Triads to look at some reviews.
http://blog.leonardchallis.com/web-sites/dont-buy-from-soccertriads-com/
ROFL!
http://blog.leonardchallis.com/web-sites/dont-buy-from-soccertriads-com/
ROFL!
Freewheelin'
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Lol at Wenger's comment that yaya toure was completely average when he went on trial. Wow
Spent the morning nursing a shaving cut on the fringe of my lip that wouldn't stop bleeding. Literally three hours of tissue treatment to get the thing to clot. Almost went down to the minor injuries unit at the Hallamshire hospital. Absolutely ridiculous. I was up before 9 to get some work done too, quite hard to type with one hand pressed firmly against your gob.
I've tweeted him to make sure it's genuine, although the weather seems to indicate it's pretty legitimate. It certainly improved my day ten fold.
that's just wenger being stubborn for the sake of being stubborn - I thought we didn't take him because they couldn't get a work permit? we did get kolo after all, who was half decent before completely losing the plot around... 07/08 (but, hey, having to partner in defense with Gallas... I can understand it, to a certain extent)
and then we never replaced kolo either. still, I don't blame wenger for not getting yaya; couldn't get Ronaldo either!
...wow.
You're right about Dzeko, whoever buys him will get a fantastic striker. He just didn't fit City's playing style of little counter-attacks and no crossing. The rotation system Mancini use is also killing him. I mean, he was benched after scoring four goals against Spurs.
Dzeko is rumoured to earn 10m, ~£140k a week.
Freewheelin'
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Apparently we were looking at Drogba too, he would have cost £100,000
And to think we could have got Messi
I thought Kolo was playing bad at the time due to the malaria?
Same here. How we managed to throw an 8 point advantage away still boggles my mind. Definitely not in our character to drop points like we did at this time of the season. I've pretty much given up on this season. SAF has got to stop spewing " no value in the transfer market" bullshit. We need to bolster our midfield with some decent signings.
Apparently we were looking at Drogba too, he would have cost £100,000
And to think we could have got Messi
I don't get why Arsenal fans are killing themselves with this. Kids are having trials to the left and right. Sure, Yaya was there, but he was surely at tons of other clubs too. And Arsenal probably trial hundreds every year.
And Messi was said to be stopped by work permit. How many 15 y/o South-American kids get work permits? I don't understand why Arsenal even tried?
(I've heard of English clubs signing a player and loan him out to gain work permit in other countries, but not 15 y/o's)
This is an absurd plan. First of all, as a Man City fan you are probably being too optimistic on those transfer fees, not to mention people tend to be overly optimistic, you should expect about half of that, though this could still cover Hazard easily enough.
However, far more egregious is your inclination to retain just 17 first team players for a squad that will be looking to compete on 4 fronts. To supplement these players you suggest 2 "new promising players" (where will the money come for these, assuming you are including FFP in your calculations? Not to mention Savic was supposed to be a new promising CB). Then the rest of the squad is filled with players who have barely a single minute of Pl experience between them. Not even the most ambitious Arsenal fan, most hopeful Liverpool fan or Salazar would really on so many youth players for their prospective squads.
And finally, do you really expect Tevez to remain after all that has happened?
Apparently we were looking at Drogba too, he would have cost £100,000
And to think we could have got Messi
there's always stories of what could have been... though Drogba would've been picked up pre-invincibles... can't see him fitting into that team. Chelsea picked him up right at the perfect time for their team, and they reaped the rewards
. as for messi, I'm sure he would have wanted to return to barcelona, like pique and cesc did.yeah, he did. But, towards the end of his time at arsenal he was just erratic and unreliable; I still have nightmares of the 07/08 champions league match at Anfield... fucking kolo, like 30 seconds after walcott goes on the greatest run of his arsenal career, needlessly fouls babel in the box. goddamn; that 07/08 team (hell, any of the 07/08 top four) would mercilessly crush any PL teams this season.
still, he was a decent defender. Just can't have two headless chickens in your central defense, regardless of how talented each of them might be.
Puyol , noooooo
He's too old for the Euro tournament man.
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I'm not sure who we are going to get to play on our right. But I just saw the Elia wanting to leave. Fine, then. But I think if that's true then, frankly, we should give Krasic another go. Perhaps we go for another RWer or it's just Estigarribia and Giaccherini compete with Pepe, but you got to think we need somebody on the right to provide a creative spark, especially if Vucinic goes down--unless we want to seitch to 3-5-2.
If we sell them both, I think we get our money back from Elia or just about, so 8-9m, and for Krasic we get 12-15m, maybe about 20m in total combined. What choice will we have in that case but to spring for a new forward in addition to a ST. Dzsudzak? Do we join the Hazard race? Maybe we just bring back... Giovinco. I mean, it all seems to make sense for his arrival now, doesn't it?
Kolarov is for sale. 7-8m? Good competition for Paolino, plus his experience, and he knows the league.
If we sell them both, I think we get our money back from Elia or just about, so 8-9m, and for Krasic we get 12-15m, maybe about 20m in total combined. What choice will we have in that case but to spring for a new forward in addition to a ST. Dzsudzak? Do we join the Hazard race? Maybe we just bring back... Giovinco. I mean, it all seems to make sense for his arrival now, doesn't it?
Kolarov is for sale. 7-8m? Good competition for Paolino, plus his experience, and he knows the league.
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