Good lord.
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Football Thread 2011/12 |OT10| Silverware, promotion, survival, relegation and tears
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Good lord.
:lol Cos we're comparable to the circus that is Blackburn. I know the point you're getting at but it doesn't matter.
It's like Said and Done, dedicated entirely to Steve Kean...
Just like Chelsea was a big club when they won their first PL title under Roman?
Come on, now.
Winning a title proves nothing except that you're a good team. It doesn't suddenly make your club "big." Schalke 04 is a bigger club than Manchester City.
That's why it was a little embarrassing, really, to hear all the "Manchester derby one of the biggest games in the world" chat. I don't give a toss how many cameras were at the ground. It's just not.
From a purely viewership and in the calendar year point of view, of curse it was. Name 3 bigger games.
So true.
I would not dispute its magnitude as a television event. But that game has mattered only in a parochial sense for so long. This year it was important in an increased and expanded sense, but it takes more than that, longer than that, for a derby or even a fixture in general to mean something like the ones pappe mentions below.
2 El Classico's
UCL Semis and UCL Finals
Inter Vs Milan , Juve Vs Milan & Juve Vs Inter.
United Vs Liverpool
Simply coz there is soooo much history and bad blood between these sides that the Manchester Derby cant match upto it. The Manchester Derby has been of any significance since last season only.
In those senses, yes. But not in the sense of a huge game that people look forward to every season no matter what happens, for example in the Premier League, Liverpool v Man United. Taken as just a list of fixtures, that is a far bigger game than the Manchester derby.
choodi
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I really hate this stupid fixation that the football world has with the word "big".
Until someone gives me a clear definition of what a "big" club or a "big" game is, then I will just dismiss that concept as a "mine's bigger than your's" type argument.
In football there is only two things to worry about, winning and losing. If you are losing, who gives a flying fuck if you are a "bigger" club. Means fuck all and doesn't win you anything.
Way back when the Premier League was formed, Aston Villa were one of the "big" clubs. Nice to see that has got them somewhere...
Until someone gives me a clear definition of what a "big" club or a "big" game is, then I will just dismiss that concept as a "mine's bigger than your's" type argument.
In football there is only two things to worry about, winning and losing. If you are losing, who gives a flying fuck if you are a "bigger" club. Means fuck all and doesn't win you anything.
Way back when the Premier League was formed, Aston Villa were one of the "big" clubs. Nice to see that has got them somewhere...
What a silly thing to post just as we edge closer to the Summer Transfer Circus.
The E3 of footy-gaf.
its a fucking big thing indeed. didnt expect that some years ago!! happy birthday btw, hope u have a nice day, mate
It won't be a circus if you buy Cisse, Cabaye and Tiote from us. In-fact, you will win the league next season. Do it. You know you want to.
Doesn't this look sexy?
Valencia - Tiote - Cabaye - Nani
--------------Rooney--------------
---------------Cisse---------------
I can smell your jizz from here.
Would turn me on.
Yeah.
choodi
Banned
The Summer Transfer Circus transcends winning and losing and even football.
We Will buy Tiote for 50 million pounds.
choodi
Banned
Sold
Much obliged. We'll throw in Cisse and Cabaye as freebies.
O you mean from a financial perspective, then yes it was bigger than those mentioned. But from historical and Emotional point of view the Manchester Derby cannot touch those games.
Than you kind sir, You can have Pogba and Berbatov as well.
Missing one thing.
someone please tell me what Kean gets by staying there
when the owners turned and started doing stupid shit, he should have resigned and said the owners are doing stupid shit
would have won him applause
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Steve said: “David’s always been put on a par with a young Rooney and he can certainly score all types of goals… It’s not just nice tap-ins, he can create a goal for himself, score from outside the box, chip them in, pass them in, smash them in."
Gordon says: A young Mickey Rooney? David Goodwillie has scored two league goals this season.
Steve
to be fair he was pretty good in the SPL
if it wasn't so sad, it would be hillarious
Steve said: “Our break in Dubai went really well. From a medical point of view I have been told vitamin D levels were very high in the lads when they come back due to the sunshine.”
Gordon says: So basically they just topped up their tans?


when the owners turned and started doing stupid shit, he should have resigned and said the owners are doing stupid shit
would have won him applause
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Steve said: “David’s always been put on a par with a young Rooney and he can certainly score all types of goals… It’s not just nice tap-ins, he can create a goal for himself, score from outside the box, chip them in, pass them in, smash them in."
Gordon says: A young Mickey Rooney? David Goodwillie has scored two league goals this season.
Steve
to be fair he was pretty good in the SPL
if it wasn't so sad, it would be hillarious
Steve said: “Our break in Dubai went really well. From a medical point of view I have been told vitamin D levels were very high in the lads when they come back due to the sunshine.”
Gordon says: So basically they just topped up their tans?


$$$$$$$$. His kids and his kids kids wont have to work now. He would have earned that much.
Football history is slow to change, but sometimes football fans can get stuck in the past. Liverpool aren't a top 4 side, and this year, the Manchester derby was bigger than the Manchester v Liverpool match. I don't even remember the score in the Liverpool matches. ;(*
Without consciously mulling over it, I'd say the Utd v Liverpool match is bigger, but in reality, going forwards, I can see more global significance being focused on the Manchester derby.
Winning one title doesn't make you a big club, see blackburn, who unfortunately got relegated this season. But city's situation is different, they have hit the jackpot.
Liverpool fc v man utd is pretty much league winners based, and there's around 40 between them, so there is plenty of history. However, It's been a couple of a decades since Liverpool last won the league. But then again, I suppose I would look down on Lfc, wouldn't I? Ahem.
So take what I say with a pinch of salt, if I'm honest.
*alright that's not exactly true, but it was big for all the wrong reasons.
Without consciously mulling over it, I'd say the Utd v Liverpool match is bigger, but in reality, going forwards, I can see more global significance being focused on the Manchester derby.
Winning one title doesn't make you a big club, see blackburn, who unfortunately got relegated this season. But city's situation is different, they have hit the jackpot.
Liverpool fc v man utd is pretty much league winners based, and there's around 40 between them, so there is plenty of history. However, It's been a couple of a decades since Liverpool last won the league. But then again, I suppose I would look down on Lfc, wouldn't I? Ahem.
So take what I say with a pinch of salt, if I'm honest.
*alright that's not exactly true, but it was big for all the wrong reasons.
Well, there are rumours that suggest him being there has nothing to do with football anyway, so there's arguably no reason for him to leave just because of a relegation.
choodi
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Football history is slow to change, but sometimes football fans can get stuck in the past. Liverpool aren't a top 4 side, and this year, the Manchester derby was bigger than the Manchester v Liverpool match. I don't even remember the score.;(
Without consciously thinking it, I'd say the utd v Liverpool match is bigger, but in reality, going forwards, I can see more global significance being focused on the Manchester derby.
Winning one title doesn't make you a big club, see blackburn, who unfortunately got relegated this season. But city's situation is different, they have hit the jackpot.
Liverpool fc v man utd is pretty much league winners based, and there's around 40 between them, so there is plenty of history. However, It's been a couple of a decades since Liverpool last won the league. but then again, I suppose I would look down Lfc, wouldn't I? Ahem.
So take what I say with a pinch of salt, if I'm honest.
Spot on
Gutted. Dirk Kuyt getting on the end of a long ball is a sadistic way to go down.
Pretty fucken huge. Nobody would really care about Hemsworth being Aussie, though.
smashing box office records weekly
Pardew in the dug-out.
So was Isabel HNNGGGGGG Lucas.
We are stuck in the past though. The 80s were a long time ago. It (the rivalry) will still be an instinctive thing for me, I doubt that will change in our lifetime. Regardless of whether we are relegated or they finish outside the top 10.
choodi
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Only you poms watch home and away
Thanks Fady
You're welcome man
I wish you guys the best in the Italian cup final.Haha, this made me laugh ;D
Why is Turnbull playing? Chelsea are putting all their eggs in the beating Bayern basket. It's going to happen isn't it
Why would it
? Coming off this shitty performance against Liverpool (did I say shitty? I meant SHITTIEST performance, doesn't exactly give confidence to the team. And at the Allianz Arena too...I was surprised by how bad Chelsea was. Liverpool took their chances, and credit to them. But, to be honest, Chelsea made it SO EASY! Look at the first goal! Romeu passed to a Liverpool player, and Terry did nothing, he let Suarez run through him SO easily. Look at the second goal, there was no danger at all yet Terry slipped and let HENDERSON score (good finish though!), and then the third - Turnbull was horrendous and Terry did not even bother to JUMP, lazy, lazy, lazy. And then the fourth was the best gift of all, a horrible clearance by Turnbull and Shelvey gets on the scoreline. Sure, Liverpool took their chances like every good team should, but Chelsea were not doing jack. Fully deserved loss for a pathetic display.
No offense to Liverpool fans, but anyone can be great when the opposition plays as shitty as Chelsea did. ALL four goals were Chelsea's fault.
I couldn't believe my eyes, it was a complete joke of a performance.
I don't deserve poster of the season due to my inconsistencies and all of a sudden large chunks of multiquotes that are too big for people to skim through :'( You are one of the best by far. dc89. Fry. Yurt. FootballFan. AwesomeAnimals. Jeff. Meier. Woodenlung. Blablurn. Sunhi, and many, many, many more I'm sure so don't think I left any one of you out! Soooooooo many of you guys rock and make this place very awesome.
If anything Jeff should get the award for the "Best Composure" after what his team went through this season. Very strong.
I have definitely been inconsistent
That's probably because life is quite inconsistent for me at the moment, so it matches my style Life has been draining me man :[ I had more energy and passion at the start/mid season, hence the quality and frequency of my posts have been lacking.
I used to be a title contender. Those were the days.
Vivalaraza, Fady, Sunhi and Yurt are the best.
(But barca-gaf is the best best)
doicare and lunchbox are also up therewith the worst posters on gaf
<3 FootballFan
Lunchbox is the funniest troll in footygaf by far Eastern Fady here! If only FootballFan was partly a Chelsea fan as well, the ritual would have been completed.
Poster awards you mean?
Yeah, I miss being the top poster next to Fady. I rather he posted constantly rather than drop by eventually with huge posts.
And stopped using avatars of Manchester United players/managers
Those were the days Fry :'(! I'd rather post in shorter more frequent bursts too. I look forward to more of that soon, with more fitting avatars as well :]
HAHAHAHAHAHHAAH
Happy bday bro!
I'd let her shit on my belly, wipe it all over me and place me in the Tate as a true art piece.
I'm not aussie but I've known since
ha!!!!! I just found out about it.
Loved the first movie. I could watch over and over again.
Captain America tonight. Thor tomorrow. Avengers on Friday. All for the first time. Looking forward to it.
choodi
Banned
hah
she's nothing
check out the bird thats in home and away now
Wow, maybe I should start watching!
Lets hope that she wants to become a "serious" actor
and start showing even more skin
You're gonna love Avengers. Absolutely brilliant.
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