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Football Thread 2011/12 |OT10| Silverware, promotion, survival, relegation and tears

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Yurt

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Grover Cleveland said:
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0qn1vNC9M1r9mt7oo8_250.gif[img]

And great shots of the Juve celebrations. Can't help but have great admiration for that club and their football. [spoiler]And no, I'm not saying that as a gloryhunting American in search for a club that [I]actually does[/i] win silverware.[/spoiler][/QUOTE]

Let's hope it's a new cycle for us -_-

The admiration is mutual!
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BTW for the Assassin's Creed fans in here who watched the live action AC2 prequel film "Lineage" - Pirlo reminds me of Ezio's father haha![/QUOTE]

Pirlo looks like the default mage character of any fantasy game.
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Meus Renaissance

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Outside goals, he was one of the most productive players in South Africa yet most dismiss his World Cup as a flop. The odd thing is he wasn't really having a bad tournament either. One thing is obvious though, he cannot win them the World Cup alone.
 
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Slizz

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Jason Raize '75 - '04 said:
Outside goals, he was one of the most productive players in South Africa yet most dismiss his World Cup as a flop. The odd thing is he wasn't really having a bad tournament either. One thing is obvious though, he cannot win them the World Cup alone.
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Yea Argentina reminds me of Portugal. Good list of players that should do well in tourney's but never amount to anything.

Argentina was EMBARRASSED in the last Copa America and they were the host. Tevez was mainly to blame for that though I feel.
 
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Arnie

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Feorax said:
The more I think about it, the more I'm warming to the idea of AVB. He plays a style our players should be used to, adept in Europe, and seems ideal for a long term project (at least, he would get longer than he did at Chelsea).

His transfers were also nailed-on (Mata and Cahill have both been great for Chelsea), and I suspect he would be more open to the idea of working with a DOF.

Only problem will be Gerrard and Carragher, although I would hope the former would be gracious enough to give the guy a chance, and the latter will be retiring shortly.
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I'd take him too. If just for that hair.
 
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elsk

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Slizz said:
Yea Argentina reminds me of Portugal. Good list of players that should do well in tourney's but never amount to anything.

Argentina was EMBARRASSED in the last Copa America and they were the host. Tevez was mainly to blame for that though I feel.
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They only have good strikers and Mascherano.
 
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elsk

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Slizz said:
Garay, Jonas, Maxi Rodriguez, Zabaletta are all servicable
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Yeah, but they are overrated because they're from Argentina. Those are decent players but far from being on level with the quality of the forwards of Argentina... Colombia, Uruguay and Chile are in a better moment IMO, their squads are more solid/complete, specially the Colombian one.
 
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Slizz

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My reaction was pretty similar to most United fans. Screamed fuck real loud and kicked my trash can. Then went to GAF lol.
 
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Fry

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Haha! Sunhi get in here and gif the shit out of this video
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This guys hilarious.

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PaulLFC

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Some very true quotes in this BBC article:

Liverpool fans have been reacting to the news that manager and club legend Kenny Dalglish has been sacked.

The announcement has come as a shock to many, despite the club's disappointing Premier League season.

Although the club won the Carling Cup and reached the FA Cup final, Liverpool finished 8th in the league - a place below neighbours and rivals Everton.

Phil Redmond, TV producer and Liverpool fan, said: "From a business point of view, it's up to the owners, but Kenny has had an extraordinary year."

He added: "We were starting to win again, we were a goalkeeper's glove away from turning the FA Cup final around, it could have been very different."

After Roy Hodgson's departure in January 2011, Dalglish returned to manage the club for a second time, initially on a caretaker basis.

He was made permanent manager in May on a three-year contract.

Wigan manager Roberto Martinez and former boss Rafael Benitez are now seen as the front runners for the vacant position.

'Trigger happy decision'
Gareth Roberts, from Liverpool fanzine Well Red, said: "I'm shocked by it, I'm really surprised they have made this decision, it's too short a time to judge a manager.

"He got a cup in the bag, a disappointing league season, but I think it was a bit of a trigger happy decision to be honest.

He added: "Martinez is not an upgrade on Kenny Dalglish, he's an up and coming manager, but it doesn't send out the right message."

Les Lawson, chairman of the official Liverpool Supporters' Club said he was also surprised by the move.

"The position the club was in when he took over from Roy Hodgson, we were five points off relegation, and when he came in, he steadied the ship and brought stability.

"As far as I'm concerned, Kenny Dalglish will always be a legend at Liverpool and I'd like to thank him for what he's done.

"I'd like Rafa (Benitez) back, but that's just me, and I don't think it will happen."

'A bit pathetic'
Kelly Cates, Dalglish's daughter, wrote on Twitter: "Devastated for Dad but incredibly proud of the job he's done."

Gary Shaw, a Liverpool supporter who has written a biography on Dalglish, said the decision did not make any sense.

"The new manager would be the fourth in a little over three seasons - that makes us look a bit pathetic in my eyes.

"They had an expectation which was completely unrealistic, and that was to finish in the top four".

Spice Girl and Reds supporter Mel C said she was saddened by the news.

"He has a legendary status at the club, he came in when morale was low and he was instrumental in boosting that morale on the terraces.

"It's been a difficult few years for Liverpool but we've had some great moments this year."

'Worrying trend'
James McKenna, spokesman for the Spirit of Shankly supporters' group, said the decision left him bemused.

"It leads to more questions than answers, it leaves me wondering what's the future strategy?

"It's a worrying trend in football that managers aren't given time, success doesn't come overnight."

Former Liverpool defender John Scales said Dalglish had had a tough year, but thought he would be given another season.

"I'm shocked, but over the last couple of days when he went over to Boston the silence has been deafening.

"Everybody understands Liverpool's season was not good enough. They were 40-odd points off the two Manchester clubs."

Dalglish's sacking comes following talks in Boston with the club's principal owners, John W Henry and Tom Werner.
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Whatever the opinion of Dalglish on here, he's a club legend at Liverpool, and always will be. That leaves me with a question - if FSG wouldn't give Kenny Dalglish time at Liverpool, then who will they give time to? I don't think it matters who we get in as manager, this move just says to me "we want instant success or we're getting a new manager in".
 
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Phantast2k

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Hmm, I just noticed that Dalglish has been fired.

Has the sports manager (or whoever is responsible for the squad/transfer policy) been fired too? Because I'd fire him before the Dalglish. I feel like that guy should be the main culprit in Pool's what now, third or fourth lackluster season(?) in a row.
 
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Yen

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Phantast2k said:
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Hmm, I just noticed that Dalglish has been fired.

Has the sports manager (or whoever is responsible for the squad/transfer policy) been fired too? Because I'd fire him before the Dalglish. I feel like that guy should be the main culprit in Pool's what now, third or fourth lackluster season(?) in a row.
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Damien Comolli. Sacked 5 weeks ago.
 
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PaulLFC

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Phantast2k said:
Hmm, I just noticed that Dalglish has been fired.

Has the sports manager (or whoever is responsible for the squad/transfer policy) been fired too? Because I'd fire him before the Dalglish. I feel like that guy should be the main culprit in Pool's what now, third or fourth lackluster season(?) in a row.
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Comolli was our "Director of Football Strategy" - he's been sacked a couple of weeks ago. Our Director of Communications has also been sacked, as has our Head of Sports Science, we don't have a CEO appointed, and now we don't have a manager or assistant manager either. Right now our club is a mess.
 
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Feorax

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Phantast2k said:
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Hmm, I just noticed that Dalglish has been fired.

Has the sports manager (or whoever is responsible for the squad/transfer policy) been fired too? Because I'd fire him before the Dalglish. I feel like that guy should be the main culprit in Pool's what now, third or fourth lackluster season(?) in a row.
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Comolli went weeks ago.

EDIT: Beaten..
 
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Salvadora

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PaulLFC said:
Comolli was our "Director of Football Strategy" - he's been sacked a couple of weeks ago. Our Director of Communications has also been sacked, as has our Head of Sports Science, we don't have a CEO appointed, and now we don't have a manager or assistant manager either. Right now our club is a mess.
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That seems a pretty huge clear out. It might take a while to fill those posts. Plus the transfer window, Might be a step behind other clubs.
 
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Mastadon

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PaulLFC said:
Some very true quotes in this BBC article:



Whatever the opinion of Dalglish on here, he's a club legend at Liverpool, and always will be. That leaves me with a question - if FSG wouldn't give Kenny Dalglish time at Liverpool, then who will they give time to? I don't think it matters who we get in as manager, this move just says to me "we want instant success or we're getting a new manager in".
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I'm not sure that's fair on FSG to be honest. I don't think it's just the results, it's more the fact that, to my mind at least, Kenny doesn't have a clear plan on how to take the club forward. We've all commented on his strange tactics, or his reticence to make subs at key times, or the fact that he doesn't seem to know his best 11 throughout the season. That, alongside his at times embarrassing media handling throughout the season made it the right decision in my eyes.


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That seems a pretty huge clear out. It might take a while to fill those posts. Plus the transfer window, Might be a step behind other clubs.
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As long as the manager is in place, and depending on who that is, a DoF, then it's not too much of an issue. I don't think us not having a director of communications will affect the transfer window too much.
 
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Feorax

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Salvadora said:
That seems a pretty huge clear out. It might take a while to fill those posts. Plus the transfer window, Might be a step behind other clubs.
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Some of these posts have been vacant for a while. You have to think, if they have any degree of competence at all, the owners will have been looking to fill these roles well in advance.

Having said that, if we still have this many empty seats in 2 or 3 weeks time, then we might as well write off this transfer window. We really can't afford to be left behind.
 
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