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Football Thread 2011/12 |OT10| Silverware, promotion, survival, relegation and tears
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I was hoping for more positive news from the talks but I still feel confident that RVP will sign for us and be with us next season.
It will be great if we could get him to sign before the Euros though as if he gets injured during the Euros, still refuses to sign, it will deflate his transfer fee by a lot and that is concerning. Not to mention the longer this drags out we won't know about a replacement. If another Cesc/Nasri happens with RVP and that clown Walcott it will just screw us over next season as well.
This talk about us letting his contract run out must be bullshit surely? There will be huge repercussions from that as not only will it cost us a lot of money but it will draw a lot of negative attention from the media, especially when we hit bad form or RVP starts missing chances, and that will effect the rest of the squad.
Go German.
he's so shiny that I keep thinking this is from a video game.
I don't think he ruled himself out, as such.
He just said, justifiably, that picking him as a backup is absurd.
And Roy Hodgson has the mind of an amoeba if he believes that Barry, a recovering-from-injury Parker, and ostensible stalwarts Gerrard and Lampard who have done fuck all for anyone lately are better options than Carrick after the classiest season United could have asked for.
He just said, justifiably, that picking him as a backup is absurd.
And Roy Hodgson has the mind of an amoeba if he believes that Barry, a recovering-from-injury Parker, and ostensible stalwarts Gerrard and Lampard who have done fuck all for anyone lately are better options than Carrick after the classiest season United could have asked for.
I don't know why this would be a surprise. Arsenal are a million miles away from winning anything of note.
And Wenger only has himself to blame.
Didn't Carrick announce his retirement yesterday?
His replacement already signed, it's Podolski.
I think that's the Goal.com spin being put on his refusal to be a squad player.
yellow submarine
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These RVP rumors are mental. On one hand they say City are ready to pay $250K/wk with 25 million transfer fee. On the other, they say that Arsenal offered him 3 years at $130K/wk. I mean, either of those being real is ridiculous.
If City really is offering that much, then Wenger can say goodbye if he keeps insisting on lowballing RVP with 130K/wk. Not many people can say "No" to a 110% salary increase, especially when he's going to a loaded club like City.
If City really is offering that much, then Wenger can say goodbye if he keeps insisting on lowballing RVP with 130K/wk. Not many people can say "No" to a 110% salary increase, especially when he's going to a loaded club like City.
A respected source told me City wages are set to drop.
Rafa. I dunno man, what was it, two CL finals (you won one) an FA cup and a second place finish in the league? Win rate of 55%. Desperately wants to manage Liverpool again and is unemployed right now?
Seems to me FSG would be a bit daft to pass on him.
The likes of Martinez, Lambert & Rodgers are too risky for a club that really needs to hit CL slots next season.
I like AVB too but the truth is he couldnt do it at Chelsea with (my opinion) a better squad. AVB would require at least a couple of seasons to change the team to his style. FSG dosnt want to wait that long given this weeks sacking.
Honestly wouldn't surprise me. Yet another huge downgrade typical Arsenal style.
Say what you like about the others but Barry has had a fantastic season.
It's sad when £130,000 a week for a salary is considered "low". Although that's how football is these days.
The_Hitcher89
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Go German.
Klopp just ain't gonna happen. He's done an astounding job at Dortmund, its beyond superlatives. But they failed in the Champions league this season, and I think he'll want to take them as far as he can before he looks elsewhere. And honestly, what does LFC have at the moment to tempt him away? Our only hope would be to attract someone who loves a challenge so much that they'd abandon a team as good as Dortmund's for our gang of shirkers.
I wouldn't worry, Gervinho and Arteta are downgrades but it didn't stop you finishing 3rd and RVP will never have another season like this one anyway. You still need another striker to replace Chamakh, though.
I think you misunderstand me. I understand Rafa's cerdentials and completely agree that, in my opinion he's the most qualified candidate for the job. Simply, however, FSG will not appoint another former manager so soon. The whole thing is eerily similar to Dalglish's return, and as that ended as it did, there's not much chance of Rafa being given a look in.
I'm open to AVB though, in fact, I'm openly pushing for it. I think AVB would be given time, a season at the least to show some sign of progress. All he has to do is sell Downing and Adam and buy someone of the calibre of Mata and Meireles and he'd be starting on the front foot.
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Graeme Bailey quoting the Sun quoting nobody. Christ it doesn't get more authoritative than that.
Don't give them too much credit lol. They only finished third because you guys decided to bottle harder than Man Utd.
Arsene lowballing at £130,000? lol
He'd be Arsenal's highest paid player ever. It's only City that would be able to offer him £250,000 a week. They've set a large precedent that many clubs wouldn't really be able to meet.
With Marseille, who are 10th in Ligue 1. He's not had a good season.
Considering United par Rooney 200+, Chelsea pay around 200 to their top players & City pay 200+ to many and Arsenal hopes to compete with them for the title, they HAVE to increase their wage budget and RVP is not wrong in expecting 200+. Coz he is their best player by far and Best players deserve to get best pay.
Secondly, Why should RVP not expect to get paid that much?
A player is at a club either to win trophies or to earn bags of money. Arsenal definitely arent gonna be winning trophies in the near future. So, the only real reason RVP would stay at Arsenal is that he would earn as much money as he can as he is reaching the twilight of his career. As for loyalty to the club, i dont think you can question his loyalty as he has given his best years to this club and yet the club have failed him in investing to win trophies and more over selling their best players every season.
Didn't the owners look at him before they brought Kenny in?
He'll never get those wages at arsenal, he can forget it. If that's what he wants we should terminate negotiations now and get started on transfer proceedings and getting the best price for him. He's not worth £250k no player is. That's greed and nothing more.
I understand his demand for transfers because that's fair but if he wants £200k+ wages I would rather him find another club. Yann M'Vila is supposed to be making his announcement after Rennes last match and hopefully he chooses us.
Wow. The French League must be so terribly crap to support...
He didn't demand 200k+ wages.. If rumours are correct thats what City is offering.
If I didn't ask and a club offered me 250k a week wages and I'm 30 I'm taking up that offer. 250K a week is ridiculous money, any footballer would be insane not to think about such an offer unless he is Messi.
messi?
Messi gets £200k per post, but he's coming to the end of his contract.
Yep. Him, Pellegrino, AVB and Klopp I think.
pslayer666
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Take care Michael. You didn't do much, but at least your heart was always that the right place and you're a pretty decent bloke!
All now in positions barring one husky looking Portugese bloke.
Have to look at it optimistically and think that because Liverpool wouldn't be paying astronomical fees for his release, because we'd only be competing at Europa League level and because of how things panned out for him at Chelsea that the hype and expectation around him would be much lower.
But then you realise that it's Liverpool, so he'd be no doubt be firmly under the microscope.
pslayer666
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I don't really know about the twat bits but his injury record is really horrible. I think that's what kind of destroyed his whole career.
He could always come here to Cyprus and play for APOEL!!! ^_^
Only proper for a Man Utd fan to break these kind of news, don't you think?
Are you guys gonna sign him so he can hang out with Hargreaves on the stands?
He might have to actually work for a living now.
Or he could go to that team in Shanghai.
Phantast2k
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yeah, it's still undecided. However King Otto cannot lose just like that...
But yeah, I feel like the DFB might decide to redo the game.
I swear all the lack of carnival festivities in the Rhine region make Düsseldorf and Köln fans go a bit nuts, lol
You did say "most teams", but I feel like it's still a generalization.
For instance most of the German CBs are as tall or even taller than him (1.91):
Hummels: 1.92
Badstuber: 1.89
Mertesacker: 1.98
Boateng: 1.92
Höwedes: 1.87
And they train with God of Headers Miro Klose & the tree resembling fuck that is Mario Gomez.
Looking at your group it seems like Ukraine has a mix of tall and "regular sized" CBs & I have no idea about their first squad. But against England they might just field the tall ones.
Sweden obviously have tall CBs too, only France falls a little behind because from what I understand their tall CBs aren't in the first squad (Kaboul, Rami), but they'll probably stop you from crossing to Carroll.
tltr: out in group stage with or without Carroll, sry
And I'm not even that "anti-England"...that crap is only being pushed by the media anyways. I feel like the only real rivalry we have is vs. the Dutch. That one will never go away..
Injuries didn't help, but going to Real Madrid I think was a killer move. Then by the time he came to us he just fell off a cliff with injuries, and then developed an appalling attitude.
But it makes me feel just a tiny bit better that Liverpool won the CL the season after he left. It would have been a scandal if he'd ever have ended up with one lol.
Apparently, last year Verratti cried cause he didn't want to sign for Milan. Future capitano confirmed.
RVP wants a £250,000-a-week contract? That's a little over 13m a year..
Add on the transfer fee and you're looking at 70-80m here. Normally, for a player of his quality, it's fair. But looking at his age and injury record (I assum he's going to start in the Euros), I'd pass on him.
RVP wants a £250,000-a-week contract? That's a little over 13m a year..
Add on the transfer fee and you're looking at 70-80m here. Normally, for a player of his quality, it's fair. But looking at his age and injury record (I assum he's going to start in the Euros), I'd pass on him.
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