Imagine if it was true ... or if this was true:
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Football Thread 2011/12 |OT10| Silverware, promotion, survival, relegation and tears
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I'm reserving this
Oh yeah? Then Solskjær is ugly!
Baconsaurus Rex
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If all these transfers go through for City then they're going to be very overpowered in Fifa13.
Grover Cleveland
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If all these transfers go through for City then they're going to be very overpowered in Fifa13.
They've still yet to acquire The Powerhouse, Emile Heskey.
If I were real and this was true I'd take it and buy RVP
Guardiola
But of course you are real!
Vivalaraza
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I have a very certain feeling that he won't.
I am just a program like in tron legacy
Yes, but a program with feelings.
Broder Salsa
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Well no shit. Even his name is ugly.
This statement from Dave Whelan about LFC got me wondering about something:
"[C]ertainly it is clear now they don't know who they want as manager."
I've seen this sentiment in a few articles and a couple forums, too -- implying that a team should have already decided who they want before (or very soon after) firing a manager.
So, I was wondering, in the Premier League, is it uncommon to go into a coaching search without a clear-cut favorite? Do teams usually just have one person in mind, and barring some hiccup in the process (e.g., a bad interview or can't agree on wages), that's the only person they talk to?
In the US, it's common for teams in most sports to not begin the process of finding a new coach/manager until the previous one is fired. Then, teams will usually spend quite a bit of time weighing options and putting together a list of candidates.
It's then standard operating procedure (if not mandatory) for teams to interview several candidates before they're allowed to hire. In the NFL, for example, teams must at least interview a minority candidate before making their head coaching decision. Sometimes these interviews are little more than a courtesy, to give marginal candidates experience with the process. But occasionally, a long shot candidate will blow everyone away and get the job.
I'm not saying either method is right or wrong. I can see reasons for both hiring processes. I just hadn't considered that some people (like Whelan) might feel that a team taking the time to contact several candidates was symptomatic of an indecisive nature. For FSG, it's more likely a case of due diligence. They may have a favored candidate in mind, but figure it doesn't hurt to talk to everyone.
I wondered if that's not common practice in England (or elsewhere). And if it's not, would it be an insult for a potential manager to be asked to interview for a job that several other managers are also vying for? (If that's the case, FSG could be harming their search.)
"[C]ertainly it is clear now they don't know who they want as manager."
I've seen this sentiment in a few articles and a couple forums, too -- implying that a team should have already decided who they want before (or very soon after) firing a manager.
So, I was wondering, in the Premier League, is it uncommon to go into a coaching search without a clear-cut favorite? Do teams usually just have one person in mind, and barring some hiccup in the process (e.g., a bad interview or can't agree on wages), that's the only person they talk to?
In the US, it's common for teams in most sports to not begin the process of finding a new coach/manager until the previous one is fired. Then, teams will usually spend quite a bit of time weighing options and putting together a list of candidates.
It's then standard operating procedure (if not mandatory) for teams to interview several candidates before they're allowed to hire. In the NFL, for example, teams must at least interview a minority candidate before making their head coaching decision. Sometimes these interviews are little more than a courtesy, to give marginal candidates experience with the process. But occasionally, a long shot candidate will blow everyone away and get the job.
I'm not saying either method is right or wrong. I can see reasons for both hiring processes. I just hadn't considered that some people (like Whelan) might feel that a team taking the time to contact several candidates was symptomatic of an indecisive nature. For FSG, it's more likely a case of due diligence. They may have a favored candidate in mind, but figure it doesn't hurt to talk to everyone.
I wondered if that's not common practice in England (or elsewhere). And if it's not, would it be an insult for a potential manager to be asked to interview for a job that several other managers are also vying for? (If that's the case, FSG could be harming their search.)
Walcott contact ends next season. He is the same as Van Persie but because of RVP's popularity Walcott's situation hardly gets mentioned. Alex Song is 2014 though.
I feel quite depressed right now though. The thought of RVP leaving leaves me very unhappy but it's impossible for us to compete with City's wages and would it be worth spending kind of money on RVP when chances are he will never have another season like this one? It's a hard call and taking into account he is injury prone and geting on in years maybe it's time he goes. Perhaps forcing him to stay his final year and let him leave for free as a 30year old is the way to go? That will cost a minimum 20-25mil so I don't think so but meh.... Fuckin damnit.
Jeff Albertson
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Rumours Kean is gone as manager but given a job with the academy
Hmmm
Hmmm
I guess they thought it might be disrespectful to look for a new manager before Kenny was gone, I'm not sure.
They have the whole summer to find one, but they'll want to get it done as soon as possible.
It could end up similar to the situation at Wolves though, where they ended up losing out on all of their candidates because of various reasons.
They have the whole summer to find one, but they'll want to get it done as soon as possible.
It could end up similar to the situation at Wolves though, where they ended up losing out on all of their candidates because of various reasons.
It's such a tough situation for you guys. He's never going to have as much value as he does now. He obviously can't get any younger, it's a gamble to think he can have another injury-free season, his performance this year was likely his peak, and he's out of contract soon.
But if you get rid of him, next season could be painful...
I don't know what I'd do.
Vivalaraza
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Typically most clubs will have somebody lined up and have spoken to them before firing their incumbent manager. A safety net of sorts.
This is actually against the rules for the most part because you are not allowed to approach somebody who is already in a contract (such as Martinez for ex) but it happens all the time anyway with managers and players.
Meh, I'm not feeling that transfer. Fergie and Gill will not give a player like him wages of over 100k (unproven in the PL and in the big stages), City will probably offer something in the 150-200k range.
And I think RVP is a huge gamble to buy. He's expensive and made of glass.
Thanks for clarifying. That's kind of the feeling I had, but I didn't know for sure.
(I also think Whelan's statement was likely less about LFC and more an attempt to persuade Martinez to stick around for another season.)
I'm naive in believing that there's still players out there who care about more than just a wage.
Jeff Albertson
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I wish I cared about England enough to have an avatar now I feel left out
Think Im going back to my old one anyway
Think Im going back to my old one anyway
Vivalaraza
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I actually think Whelan was just speaking his mind, he's already said if Martinez ever wants to leave he will let him and happily do so because he knows he is destined for bigger things than Wigan.
It's a sentiment most people in football share really, why sack a manager when you don't have somebody ready to come in. People are sceptical of FSG because it seems they haven't decided on one candidate already. It's just part of the culture...when you think about it what they're doing is very practical as you mentioned in your earlier post. They can't have spoken to everybody before sacking Daglish even if they did have a preferred choice. Now they can speak to more or less anybody they want and see who is interested and what their ideas are without worrying about secrecy or upsetting anyone. It's a smart thing to do...but there is a time constraint in football which is more stringent than in other sports because clubs have a lot of work to do on a relatively short off-season.
Other clubs are already moving in the transfer market and LFC cant do that until a new manager is in place.
Awesome Animals
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I hope Solksjaer comes in and scoops up M'Vila before he signs somewhere else (not going to happen, one can dream).
Seen a guy in a villa shirt today, shouted "awesome animals" at him but he did not turn around
I am going to live the dream in 2 weeks going into a store and buying uniteds new kit, Chelsea's, liverpools and a city away. All at once asking to print tony V, Stevie G, Mata and Balotelli.
Can't wait to see his face
Thanks. Exactly what I was wondering. That explains a lot.
Awesome Animals
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Seen a guy in a villa shirt today, shouted "awesome animals" at him but he did not turn around
I am going to live the dream in 2 weeks going into a store and buying uniteds new kit, Chelsea's, liverpools and a city away. All at once asking to print tony V, Stevie G, Mata and Balotelli.
Can't wait to see his face
Why no Villa shirt?
Why no Villa shirt?
Really dislike the colours
Awesome Animals
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Greatest pairing in the sport!
tbf: I don't blame you until Bannan or Clark become insanely popular
The away kit is class though (thats what I got).
fadetoblack
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Thanks Zab
JUUUUUVEEEEEE <3
JUUUUUVEEEEEE <3
Awesome Animals
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I have this year's away kit as well. But that's because I liked the checker pattern better on the white than on the claret.
I'm hoping that this is his negioating tactic to get action out of Arsenal but if he seriously goes to City... Fuck that.
I'm naive in believing that there's still players out there who care about more than just a wage.
United doesn't really offer anything that City doesn't at this point. If you can make more money and arguably have a better chance at silverware? Seems like a no-brainer.
By the way, this is a good read:
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7936771/manchester-city-manchester-united-epl-shocking-season
Agreed. Its very cool.
This going to sound horrible but..
RVP is definitely staying with Arsenal
if he gets injured in the Euros
Dont worry, Bent will get you goals.
Awesome Animals
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OMG, IT'S ONLY 4 O'CLOCK. SOMEONE HELP ME!
We got something close to 55M for winning the scudetto/qualifying for Europe I think. That and the stadium money!
So 70-80M+ sounds about right.
(source: I read all of this somewhere hmm)
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