I know you're trolling but I just can't understand how you can even say Ibra is better than Villa.
The very notion is just laughable.
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I know you're trolling but I just can't understand how you can even say Ibra is better than Villa.
The very notion is just laughable.
The rumours about AVBs budget aren't true. What AVB wants he shall have. AVB Is aware of all these guys and has even spoken to Modric.
I dont know the formalities with Ades contract. But definitely look forward to the announcement by this weekend
Why is it laughable? Maybe they're on par with each other, maybe they aren't. But neither is much better than the other one.
Zlatan is amazing in my eyes. I'll never understand the hate he gets over here.
Freewheelin'
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Every time I watch him, he either scores an amazing goal or just walk around on the pitch. He's a real bitch too.
Villa is the much better striker.
It's got nothing to do with Zlatan being a poor player but everything to do with Villa being a player that has excelled at the highest level.
Something that Ibra hasn't.
Gareth Bale
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The Mail (yes I know) were saying he'd stay on loan at Birmingham this season if it were to happen.
Vivalaraza
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I like Zlatan, think he is very very good but not great.
David Villa is however on another level and without a shadow of a doubt, in my eyes, the best striker of the last 5/6 years. I think I am right in saying he went 9/10 seasons in a row scoring 20+ (or maybe its 15+) goals in a row, a record unmatched by any other player in Europe. Not Henry, RVN, Drogba, Shevchenko, none of those greats managed a record like that.
And then you consider David Villa didn't play for a top club until what, 2 years ago? He is incredible and it's a damn shame he got injured and was unable to further cement his legend at the Euros. His international record is also amazing.
David Villa is however on another level and without a shadow of a doubt, in my eyes, the best striker of the last 5/6 years. I think I am right in saying he went 9/10 seasons in a row scoring 20+ (or maybe its 15+) goals in a row, a record unmatched by any other player in Europe. Not Henry, RVN, Drogba, Shevchenko, none of those greats managed a record like that.
And then you consider David Villa didn't play for a top club until what, 2 years ago? He is incredible and it's a damn shame he got injured and was unable to further cement his legend at the Euros. His international record is also amazing.
Just got word that the Oscar deal is further than they're saying in the media.
Steve P out, GDS out, Jenas and Bentley got offers from other clubs, and naming rights being sponsored. Lloris offer is true but there is another club interested it's now down to him to choose.
Oh I almost forgot, Madrid have given us a list of players to choose from in return for modric.
Also as I said earlier, Vert and Ade in by the weekend.
What a positive week.
Any details on M'Vila?
11 goals, 13 assists in a team dominated by RVP. I'd say that's decent.
hey, I've always thought he would've made a good striker partner for RVP. I mean, if fucking Jelavic can score loads of goals as one of the most one-dimensional strikers this side of Mario Gomez, then Walcott could easily complement any Arsenal striker (even, dare I say it, Chamakh himself) up front.
but that will never happen. he's dire on the wing; can't cross, can't dribble, can't shoot, but I guess he can run pretty fast.
Freewheelin'
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Just Spurs info.
I know near's suggesting AVB will get whatever he wants, but do you think Spurs would go for two pricey strikers in one window?
Are you compiling all this information from forums and that ilk or are you suggesting this information's come from a personal source?
Take it the other club interesting in Lloris is Spurs? Hopefully Wenger sends a text.
Freewheelin'
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lol he is literally the footballing clone of Sonic the Hedgehog
I'm not sure how anyone can say Villa's excelled at the highest level when he was only playing for a top level club for one and a half seasons of his entire career while Ibra, as much as I think the guy is overrated (like everyone else :lol), has won league title after league title at elite clubs. And Inter.
Ibra's main blemish is his dire Champions League record, but that's also partly just because he has a shitty February every single year. and he played under Mancini—so it's hard to tell which effect is greater: Mancini's penchant for failure in Europe or Ibra's dire winter months.
Ibra's main blemish is his dire Champions League record, but that's also partly just because he has a shitty February every single year. and he played under Mancini—so it's hard to tell which effect is greater: Mancini's penchant for failure in Europe or Ibra's dire winter months.
Gareth Bale
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He got it from a forum. It's probably good info though.
Assuming Adebayor is one of them, then I guess so. Jermain Defoe is the only senior striker at the club right now.
His wiki entry says the following:
I got my hopes up until this follow up post.
Not familiar with him personally but anyone who is compared to Aguero makes my ears perk up.Vivalaraza
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But Villa performed better than most other strikers even without having the support of a top team. That itself is more impressive IMO.
Then you look at his record at the Euro 08 and WC 2010...that wasn't bad for the top level.
Broder Salsa
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His wiki entry says the following:
I got my hopes up until this follow up post.
It's not like he would have gotten much time for City anyway, you can buy him in a few years if he keeps developing... If PSG those assholes won't keep stealing every Palermo player. But yeah it's pretty much official, arrived in Italy and both the Instituto and Palermos sport director has said it's done.
C'mon Yurt, your bias can be seen by miles. Even Ibra can see it through his big nose.
LanceVance
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Bendtner > Villa > Ibra
I'd consider this performing at the highest level.
UEFA Euro 2008 Golden Boot
UEFA Euro 2008 Team of the Tournament
2010 FIFA World Cup Silver Shoe
2010 FIFA World Cup Bronze Ball
FIFA World Cup All-Star Team: 2010
Gareth Bale
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All these transfers... I really picked the wrong time to go on holiday.
yeah, a good record. Though for a top striker 15/20 goals a season should be expected no?
Lampard, since 2003-04 season, has scored over 15 goals every season bar 2010-11 where he scored 13. For a midfilder his stats are brilliant
I'm actually being quite objective here.
In 14+ seasons, Ibra scored 20+ goals twice. And one of them was last season, with 11 penalties. (In the league)
Must be nice to be a fan of a rich London club.
He supports Spurs, not Chelsea.
Vivalaraza
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Yurt posted his stats above, was 20+ 10 seasons in a row as well as a decent number of assists. It should be expected but just shows his consistency when you consider other strikers couldn't manage that level of continued performance. And 9 of these seasons he was playing for lesser teams. Hes shown since he was a teenager that he can score goals even in average teams, and more consistently than anybody else IMO.
I just think he is amazing and showed that when he drove Spain to Euro and WC glory. He had a great first season for Barca too.
Lampard's record is outstanding. Ridiculous numbers from midfield.
I should've clarified that my point was that Ibra's been at the top level for far longer than Villa. and Villa had the best midfield in the fucking world, maybe of all time, in support at WC 2010 and, to a much lesser extent, Euro 2008. (A team so good they won Euro 2012 without him with relative ease) and let's not undersell that Valencia team that he played on - just because he didn't win any titles doesn't mean it wasn't damn good.
I'm not saying Villa's not world class. I'm just disagreeing with the idea that Ibra has not proved himself at the highest level while Villa has.
Gareth Bale
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Must be nice to be a fan of a rich London club.
We're not rich, we're just very well run. But you don't win any trophies for that and people forget about it once the football starts.
And signing players doesn't count for anything. I remember this time last season everyone here was praising Liverpool for moving quickly in the market and bringing in Adam, Downing, Henderson, etc...
FootballFan
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WTF.
This is on a forum?
I like Villa and think he's one of the best out there, though i've always prefered Eto'o. Shame he turned us down when he moved to Barca
We've missed a player like Lampard in our midfield. Hopefully Kagawa can do a similar job and grab 10-15 goals a season.
Gareth Bale
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To be fair it's probably ends up on various forums and twitter.
sazabirules
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Nesta signed with Montreal. He must just want to play because he didn't sign as a Designated Player so he has a salary limit.
he's NOT a designated player? that's really surprising, given the salary cap for MLS is really low compared to European leagues.
I'm writing a Spurs piece and I'm genuinely toying with the idea of turning it into a 'they should've chose Rafa piece', but at this point I feel I really am becoming a parody of myself, and I'm on a steep slope to DC39 territory.
It's just we've had so many articles repeat the same basic principle that AVB is a gamble, and he'll have to change his approach to management after Chelsea, but it just feels so repetitive. I'm fairly confident I could do a piece that analyses AVB and his future challenges, and I believe I can write it in a way that's at least pleasant to read, but I don't know what I can say that hasn't already been said.
It's just we've had so many articles repeat the same basic principle that AVB is a gamble, and he'll have to change his approach to management after Chelsea, but it just feels so repetitive. I'm fairly confident I could do a piece that analyses AVB and his future challenges, and I believe I can write it in a way that's at least pleasant to read, but I don't know what I can say that hasn't already been said.
sazabirules
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Apparently it might be backloaded and after this year he'll be considered a DP.
Well most of what I've posted here could easily have been assumed and reported. But Ade in training by Monday should have been tight lipped. Enough said.
ah that makes sense. still, never liked the idea of making defenders (especially aging ones) DPs. didn't work with Marquez... and center halves don't sell shirts or fill stadiums.
edit: part of me hopes that Adebayor moves to Tottenham on a free, just to fuck with City. can't see a particularly high fee being paid anyways, given the wage situation.
Sviatoslav
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So, uhh apparently Guardiola is coming to Moscow tomorrow to talk with the Russian Football Union about being the national team coach.
Why would he ever even consider it, besides the bucket loads of money, I mean? I guess he wants to prove he can win with scrubs cause Kerzhakov is certainly no Messi.
Why would he ever even consider it, besides the bucket loads of money, I mean? I guess he wants to prove he can win with scrubs cause Kerzhakov is certainly no Messi.
Gareth Bale
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Well apologies if it's your own info. I assumed you got it from various sources because I saw pretty much the same list this evening.
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