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Football Thread 2011/2012 | OT12 | All the clowns were offside...

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Slizz

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I just pulled the trigger on a Samsung Galaxy S3. Essentially a free phone thanks to Balotelli and Van Gaal.

Slizz if you're around, how you getting on with it?

He got you both to reply.

Sorry bout that. Just saw your post.

I love it man. It's so fast, like really really fast. Flipboard is a cool little app for consolidating all the newest news from your favorite topics. Lasts about 24-27 hrs of pretty consistent use throughout the day(browsing, WWF, music etc.) Feels great, screen is very bright and responsive.

Haven't truly sat down and tried to optimize to fullest potential yet.


EDIT: I'm not crazy right? The font is larger now in posts?
 

Yurt

il capo silenzioso
DrATQ.jpg

In before Woodenlung's "IS HE GOING TO JAILOLOL?"
 

Hieberrr

Member
I keep reading things about Dortmund's Mustafa Amini. He was signed last year and immediately loaned back to the Australian A-League. Does anybody know if he's any good?

Sorry bout that. Just saw your post.

I love it man. It's so fast, like really really fast. Flipboard is a cool little app for consolidating all the newest news from your favorite topics. Lasts about 24-27 hrs of pretty consistent use throughout the day(browsing, WWF, music etc.) Feels great, screen is very bright and responsive.

Haven't truly sat down and tried to optimize to fullest potential yet.


EDIT: I'm not crazy right? The font is larger now in posts?

Forget Flipboard! Go with Feedly (Google Currents as an alt).
 

Joe

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Wtf. I'm pretty sure I read that Palermo own half of Dybala's rights. Whether he actually played for them was one thing but I was under the impression they at least owned half of "him".

edit: trying to follow transfer news is futile. it's literally pointless until a player is photographed holding his new shirt in front of him.
 
Wtf. I'm pretty sure I read that Palermo own half of Dybala's rights. Whether he actually played for them was one thing but I was under the impression they at least owned half of "him".

edit: trying to follow transfer news is futile. it's literally pointless until a player is photographed holding his new shirt in front of him.

Everyone thought it was done and Zamps has already paid... He's going to be furious. :lol

Well good luck rotting on the bench, Dybala.
 

Zabojnik

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Looks like galatasaray are making Melo permanent for a fee of 8 million euros. good times, guy fits in with that squad brilliantly.

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Elia too. Yes! Hopefully we'll manage to get rid of Krasic and Quagliarella and then ... UNLEASH THE MAROTTA! WE'RE BUYING EVERYBODYYYYYYYYY!!!1111
 

Yurt

il capo silenzioso
:(

About that ... Do we even have a geniuine PSG fan here? You'd expect the glory hunters to be all over them by now. I need someone I can direct my growing PSG hatred at.

We had two. I'm sure they were bought by Leonardo.

You have yet to tell me what's the story behind that kuwaitiful smiley
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Oh and bad news, Marchisio smokes. Is this how it feels to watch your own baby slowly die in front of you?
 

Yurt

il capo silenzioso
They're rich, why the hell do they need nicotine?

Every Juve supporter picked up smoking in the last couple of years.

Zabojnik said:
After the season he's had he can do whatever the fuck he pleases to. I seriously wouldn't be opposed if we had him and Pirlo start the new season at the end of september. Dude needs to rest.

Yup. We can easily afford to rest Marchisio till January if we want. Asamoah is capable of playing his role <3

Pirlo though :( We can pull a Milan and play with 3-4 warriors I guess? I'm sure they'll cause some damage.


Lich-Isla-Vidal-Asamoah-Caceres and with Lucio and Chiellini behind them? There will be broken bones.
and zero goals...it rhymes!
 

Zabojnik

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You have yet to tell me what's the story behind that kuwaitiful smiley
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There isn't one, I found it through Google image search. Pure coincidence. :)

Oh and bad news, [Marchisio smokes]. Is this how it feels to watch your own baby slowly die in front of you?

After the season he's had he can do whatever the fuck he pleases, heh. I seriously wouldn't be opposed if we had him and Pirlo start the new season at the end of september. Dude needs to rest.

Every Juve supporter picked up smoking in the last couple of years.

I choose to blame him.

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Just had a search for Kagawa's gf with safe search turned off.

Ameri Ichinose.

Viewer discretion is advised.

Ameri is playing a game with her guy. She is blindfolded and she has to find him in the bedroom! She is a busty gal who enjoys what she gets when she finds him and takes off her blindfold! She is a busty lAsian babe with long hair who is very sexy. She gets a doggy style fucking before she gives him a blow job, and winds up with cum in her pretty face!

This is relevant to my interest
 

Yurt

il capo silenzioso
Stories in porn are as terrible as national anthems before kick off. Just get on with it!


To stay on topic and before I head to bed :p

Pazzini: "I'll be honest I believe the club has made its decision and that I'll no longer be a part of this project."

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Not sure which one was funnier, getting rid of him after 1.5 season, or calling Inter's strategy a project.
 

Zabojnik

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I was rewatching the highlights from Juve - Milan. The guys were in top form and with a world-class striker up front that match would've ended 4-0 at the very minimum.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92YDGCK6WMw

When we're playing like this, attacks coming from every direction, I can totally see how having someone like RVP would benefit us.
 

Hixx

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God I wish it was december. Season in full swing, listening to idiots complain about x, y and z on 5 live or talksport...

Need football back. The withdrawals are kicking in.
 

Bumhead

Banned
Same. Need football back ASAP.

Although this season has a lot to live upto both on a personal and neutral level coming from last year.
 

GQman2121

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Is Verratti really worth £13m? Or is it just another rich club overpaying to land their guy? Other than YouTube, I've never seen the kid touch a ball. Not a lot of Serie B shown Stateside.
 

Clegg

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Bob Cass&#8207;@Bob_Cass

I believe Fergie is hoping to make one or two signings b4 they go on tour. I know he likes Baines, Dembele and Moutinho ...

Go on ....

@ManUtdStuff: Manchester United have not made a bid for Fulham's Moussa Dembélé contrary to reports. [pa] #MUFC

FFS
 

K1LLER7

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Think it could be Baines/ henriquez. Or a player nobody expects. Would love Ganso

Hope Nani gets his contract sorted out too.
 
Apparently Ganso could be moving to Internacional as a replacement for Oscar. Anyhow, Ganso has come in for some criticism lately and is not really progressing as hoped. I don't see him play very often but I saw this article about him yesterday and it's very interesting, bit long but if you're interested here is an article from a regular viewer who says he doesn't think he is as good as the hype has suggested and has a long way to go before he makes it a top European club.

Paulo Henrique Ganso is that rarest of beast in the world of modern football; a languid, elegant playmaker who depends almost entirely on his wand of a left foot to unlock opposing defences. Ganso, as he is most commonly known, is a footballing artist, shunning physicality for complete control of the ball lying at his feet. Comparisons with Boca Juniors legend Juan Roman Riquelme are frequent and there are a number of similarities in the two players&#8217; respective games. However, whilst seldom addressed in the Brazilian media, there is also a gaping disparity between the duo&#8217;s performances on the pitch in terms of both quality and consistency.

Ganso, at just 22-years-old, has already achieved much in his Santos career. He is a Copa Libertadores winner, a Brazilian Cup winner and multiple São Paulo state championship winner, but there is emerging a nagging sense that he has plateaued as a footballer over the past eighteen months. For all his various successes, the young star has rarely put in top performances against better opponents, particularly when in Copa Libertadores action or the colours of the national team. In fact, there are some who would say that the playmaker&#8217;s only sustained periods of form have come in the somewhat lower-level of the state championships, or whilst playing alongside both Robinho and Neymar at Santos.

Injuries have hampered the youngster throughout his professional career. Indeed, Ganso has missed well over half of Santos&#8217; last two seasons with major knee injuries, as well as other lesser muscle tears. That in itself would be enough to set alarm bells ringing in the heads of directors at many top European sides and surely was a factor as to why AC Milan went quiet on the midfielder last summer, when it had seemed as though the Rossoneri were in pole position to secure his future.

Just as worrying, though, for the long-term future of one of Santos&#8217; famous &#8216;Meninos da Vila&#8217; combination of Neymar, Robinho, André and Ganso himself, is the fact that there is little sign of progression in his game on the pitch. The 2012 season thus far has been disappointing for the Brazilian international, often finding himself unable to dictate play on the big stage &#8211; a skill that Riquelme, for his part, has long-since mastered.

The enganche, or traditional number ten figure, is somewhat of a dying art in both Europe and its traditional heartland of South America, and in the modern, overly physical, footballing world is becoming an ever more difficult position to fill. It is a role that requires great intelligence and supreme reading of the game, without demanding great strength or pace. Riquelme is the undisputed modern master, but there are few others. Ganso has shown glimpses, but when faced with the all-action combative midfielders that European football produces in abundance, has struggled to find space in the way that Riquelme, or the deeper-lying Paul Scholes and Andrea Pirlo manage so effectively.

The Santos star must adapt in order to develop and recent contract disputes with Santos present a perfect opportunity to make the leap to European football, which Ganso, much more than Neymar, requires to progress. Contract disputes and talk of departure for pastures new have been somewhat of a theme throughout Ganso&#8217;s Santos career to date, leading some to believe his heart and mind have not always been focused on the job at hand, but it seems it may now finally be time for Ganso to continue his career elsewhere.

However, for Ganso, as with Lucas Moura, talk in European media of a move to the likes of Manchester United or Chelsea is premature &#8211; he is simply not at that level. Whilst with 19-year-old Lucas it is a matter of maturing in his decision making, which could be overcome with a gradual introduction to first-team football at a top side, for Ganso it is a different issue. An enganche relies heavily on experience and know-how, which would be hard to acquire resting on a substitutes bench for a European giant, whilst recent talk of a move to England belies the fact that the Premier League is perhaps the destination to which he would be least suited.

Ganso must either learn how to influence play from his current role, by finding space and moving to the ball, or adapt to a new style of play. Watching the young playmaker in the 2011 Copa America fail to deal with the unceasing harrying of the Paraguayan midfield was a wake-up call for many observers and the problems have still yet to be addressed. Ganso simply does not put himself in the right areas of the pitch, a skill that the afore mentioned modern playmakers have perfected over the years. This will no doubt come with age, but players are not afforded that amount of time at top sides. To succeed at one of the European giants Ganso would be required to adapt quickly and succinctly to his new surroundings &#8211; not easy for someone still learning their art.

That is where many in the European media have been misguided in recent days, thrown by the hype that had emerged from Brazil surrounding the duo of Neymar and Ganso. Unfortunately for the latter, that talk is now solely based around his mohicaned colleague who has, thus far, risen to every challenge in his career with aplomb. The footballing world is still waiting for Ganso to do the same. The 2012 Olympic Games were supposed to be his time to shine, but in recent times that vision has also begun to look shaky with the emergence of 20-year-old attacking midfielder Oscar as a potentially better playmaker option for Mano Menezes&#8217; side. The Internacional man, linked with Tottenham, is a completely different style of playmaker, full of pace and energy, always looking to keep possession of the ball &#8211; much more &#8216;modern&#8217; iteration of the much-vaunted number 10 role.

Ganso has in the past been the subject of bids from Porto and Paris Saint-Germain, both of which were swiftly rejected by Santos who are looking for an overly-ambitious sum of in excess of &#8364;20 million for the injury-prone playmaker &#8211; they would by lucky to get &#8364;15 million at present. At either club mentioned, there would be potential for a much smoother transition to the European game, with Ligue 1 and the Liga Sagres both prime locations for South American talents to adapt to the demands of the Old Continent. Ganso, more than most, needs this lessened pressure if he is to fulfil his potential.

There is no doubt that the Santos man is a rare talent and he has shown, when on form, just what he can produce given the right conditions &#8211; see the 2011 Copa Libertadores final second-leg with Peñarol. For the moment, though, he is saddled with the burden of his early hype and the media tide in Brazil is beginning to turn, with the unwanted tag of &#8216;unfulfilled potential&#8217; in danger of becoming firmly attached to his name. The time is undoubtedly right for a move and this next step could ultimately decide how Ganso&#8217;s career will be regarded. A rumoured move to Manchester United, though, could turn out to be an expensive nightmare for both player and club. That story, I would suggest, is little more than over-enthusiastic press speculation.

Why talk of Ganso going to Manchester United is misguided.
 

dc89

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My brother went to a Ferrari show today at Boughton House and there was a Ferrari 166 there.

The guy who bought it purchased it from a member of the Agnelli family.

Yurt will know the tie to Football!
 


Go on ....



FFS
Tbh I really don't think Bob Cass knows much. He insists he does but all those stories have been around for a while already so he's not telling us anything new...apart from that we might do some business.

Alot of people give off conflicting reports about the players we are interested in anyway. Many people are sure that we have bid for Moutinho, but then Daniel Taylor says today that isn't the case. There are those who say we've bid for Baines or are at least in the process of putting a bid together, but then James Ducker says it's a total red herring and won't happen. Now we've got something similar with Dembele.

It's impossible to know what is true and what isn't and all these people get different messages from their sources. I think the club actually give off mixed signals on purpose just to confuse these suckers.
 

K1LLER7

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there are rumours of Witsel of Benfica too. Pinto a Portuguese reporter was on Talksport saying we were interested and he'd be a better fit in United's midfield than Moutinho.
 

Rad-

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there are rumours of Witsel of Benfica too. Pinto a Portuguese reporter was on Talksport saying we were interested and he'd be a better fit in United's midfield than Moutinho.

Hmm did he say why? I think Moutinho would help United midfield a lot. He works hard and can play both ways, good range of passing too. Very versatile. And seems to have the way to motivate others with just his play.
 

Linius

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God I wish it was december. Season in full swing, listening to idiots complain about x, y and z on 5 live or talksport...

Need football back. The withdrawals are kicking in.
Couldn't agree more. My club will be ten points behind by then explaining how they put the title to a rest to claim it in may after an heroic come back after all. Yeah, I'm looking forward to that.
 
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