At least the club realizes it has to act preemptively when situations such as these arise. The Cesc/Nasri situation should have been dealt with properly.
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Football Thread 2011/2012 | OT12 | All the clowns were offside...
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At least the club realizes it has to act preemptively when situations such as these arise. The Cesc/Nasri situation should have been dealt with properly.
Vivalaraza
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Heh the Portuguese lot at United do the same Arnie. Ronaldo would always say "I'm glad to win this teetle" ahaha.
Btw can somebody direct me to some kind of YouTube video of Borini which shows his best bits or just general play. I can't remember what this guy even looks like nvm how he plays.
Btw can somebody direct me to some kind of YouTube video of Borini which shows his best bits or just general play. I can't remember what this guy even looks like nvm how he plays.
Sort of both. You can do much better than V.
Read on the Mirror that Ferguson admitted today his career was all but over. Sad, I really rate him.
Also, put me in the camp who likes Spurs new kit. But their training gear is sensual, wish ours was half as tasty. Probably for the best, I'm one of those nobheads who buys training vests and sweat pants when they get an influx of cash, and I just got my house deposit back from last year.
Here you go, his goals last season.
Yeah I read that earlier and thought as much. I don't think the loss of RVP will hurt us that much honestly. I'm more concerned about the amount we get for him so we can reinvest into the squad. Hopefully we can use whatever transfer fee we get for RVP plus the money we were going to give to him to put into the squad.
I really want us to tie down Alex Song as well. Only 2 years to go for him...
I'm still can't believe that we missed out on Mata because the board didn't want to pay an extra million. The Cesc/Nasri situations were basically handled in the complete worst way possible and we still don't have replacements for either.
I agree, his illness is a huge part of your midfield collapse in recent seasons. You guys really need Cleverley fit. He's a snow-globe of energy and precision passing.Oh no, Fletchwas our Lucas in a way, added so much energy to our midfield.
Really excited to see how Giroud does, and I think he'll benefit in a way from Van Persie's departure, as long as the pressure doesn't cripple him. Granted, I'm one of those whose seen him on Youtube, but he looks a beast.
Baconsaurus Rex
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The C-word got banned
Edit: Let me rephrase that, the actual member.
Edit: Let me rephrase that, the actual member.
Chelsea offered Montpellier far more money than we did yet Giroud chose us. Wenger probably assured him about his place in the team and yeah, The French connection helped. The Mata situation still makes me upset as Wenger is obviously quite persuasive to potential players yet the money always seems to be the issue. I mean 1 million? I don't know what was going through the heads of the people upstairs.
The C-word got banned
Edit: Let me rephrase that, the actual member.
Was he acting like one?
Yeah, hoping Cleverley can do the business. As much as we love to cream over him, he is potentially class.
Seriously though, Fletch. Massive loss; him, Carrick and Clev would be a fantastically weighted middle 3.
Giroud will be class. If Wenger deviates from two wide strikers and plays him and Podolski up front they won't miss RvP.
Baconsaurus Rex
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I have no idea what got him. He seemed like a nice fellow.
Yep. Rodgers would spunk over him, technically superb and is comfortable taking the ball in almost all situations.
yeah, I have complete confidence in Giroud leading the front line and scoring goals and he clearly has the right attitude to succeed. RVP's overrated anyways (no, this is not the bitter part of me talking... okay maybe a little bit) and, from what I can tell, Giroud won't spend half the season on the injury table. Provided he's fit, he will score 20+ goals in the league next season.
same. but Berlusconi confirmed it so it's definitely happening. contract was probably just to drive the price up (like they did with Kaka shortly after they turned down the City bid, only to sell him to Real Madrid that summer)
Don't jinx it. He'll tear his hamstring in August and fail to find his feet when he returns, amidst a goal drought at Arsenal. And Van Persie will be the league's top scorer at City.
I'm getting a bit of a hard on for Dempsey, kind of want us to take that cash plus player offer from Fulham. £10 million, plus the greatest American footballer of all time for Andy Carroll is quite a good deal, considering. Think Carroll would flourish more at West Ham though, and I think he'd be more accepting of a move there to team up with Nolan.
Its unfortunate we are nowhere near done with business this summer. RVP leaving is sad but at least we know where we stand. I'd rather he didn't stay in the PL, regardless of getting a few extra millions for it. It sends out the wrong message.
He may be 29, but I wouldn't mind having him at Arsenal.
DOBERMAN INC
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I hope you're right, I'm starting to get nervous thinking we might get left behind, probably the typical Arsenal pessimism I go through every pre season though.
A little carrot put out there could ease the nerves a bit though.
I think he'd be great for either club. If Arsenal went for him I'm sure he'd prefer that move though, he's getting on and this could be his last chance to play in the Champions League.
In other news:
I'm your biggest fan I'll follow you until you love me, Aqua, Aquilani. He comes from ancient Rome, he plays well awaaay and at home.
That pessimism is there for a reason. We are used to getting our hopes dashed, one way or another.
I hear Wenger is quite an admirer & it would help with the American market. Its also a plus that he's a great player.
That's why I hope this Fulham deal is legitimate (which I think it is), so we can push through with things before Wenger gets his oar in. If this video doesn't give you a Dempsey hard on then nothing will.
Would probably draw some great crowds on our US tour if we had Dempsey with us.
It's all you can do with Aquilani. The guy's an enigma.
Berlusconi... ¬_¬
I think it'll be much easier this time since his playing style fits exactly into Rodgers plans, plus there's another italian coming, so he might warm up to the idea of staying.
I think Wenger was interested last summer as well. Unfortunately you could probably get him if you moved quickly enough. Isn't it Aquilani's wife that's the problem?
I hope so. Having Borini around should benefit him a lot, especially as they've both got a link to Roma. It's at least another person on Merseyside who shares the same cultural upbringing, someone you can always speak to in training, or have a meal with, etc. Should also benefit him that Rodgers speaks Italian, he's already mentioned having a couple of long chats with him.
Family issues were cited when he left the club for Milan last summer, although his will to fight for his place, plus the fact that he's back in England now following his recent marriage suggests he's resolved them. I hope he tries to get them to settle here.
I wouldn't underestimate the Red Sox connection. the commercial potential of being heavily marketed in the states is something that the Liverpool owners can and probably will stress. and I think he'd be a pretty poor fit for our style of play. Last thing we need is a guy who shoots on sight and breaks down our infamous pretty passing (pretty passing that, last I checked, Brendan Rogers was a pretty big fan of). it's the only thing we have left!!
having said that, I stand by my stance that Dempsey is overrated. He and RVP are a bit alike though—for whatever reason, they've been ignored for a while and then when they've had a great two seasons, everyone praises them to the high heavens to compensate for the fact that they were overlooked beforehand. the reality lies somewhere in the middle.
and more importantly, they're bound to return to the mean anyways...
That's where he ends up in my FM save.
bigger shame Wenger didn't offer Ibra a contract on the spot back in the day!!!
edit: speaking of which, I also have high hopes for this Mbaye Niang kid. he's definitely a FM legend.
We were close to signing Ronaldo as well
Its weird thinking back to players that could have been. Didn't United come close to Ronaldinho, For example?
Vivalaraza
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Giroud will score 20+ goals in the PL next season.
This is crazy statement to make. Not saying he isn't capable of it but that would be an absolutely immense debut season. Really would not expect that from him at all. If he gets 15 in the league and 20 in all competitions he will have done well.
Some players seem to get to 30+ goals easily these days but it's no easy feat. Getting to 25 is a very good return itself.
This is crazy statement to make. Not saying he isn't capable of it but that would be an absolutely immense debut season. Really would not expect that from him at all. If he gets 15 in the league and 20 in all competitions he will have done well.
Some players seem to get to 30+ goals easily these days but it's no easy feat. Getting to 25 is a very good return itself.
Vivalaraza
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Yes Kenyon totally messed it up. Started being the smug little shit he is and tried to knock a couple of million off the price. At the time Dinho had already said he was going to play for United. Barca came in and paid up and he went there instead.
Not sure if we would have got Ronaldo in the end so maybe it worked out well for us but we really should have made the Ronaldinho deal happen, but of course, Peter Kenyon.
I wouldn't underestimate the Red Sox connection. the commercial potential of being heavily marketed in the states is something that the Liverpool owners can and probably will stress. and I think he'd be a pretty poor fit for our style of play. Last thing we need is a guy who shoots on sight and breaks down our infamous pretty passing (pretty passing that, last I checked, Brendan Rogers was a pretty big fan of). it's the only thing we have left!!
having said that, I stand by my stance that Dempsey is overrated. He and RVP are a bit alike thoughfor whatever reason, they've been ignored for a while and then when they've had a great two seasons, everyone praises them to the high heavens to compensate for the fact that they were overlooked beforehand. the reality lies somewhere in the middle.Let Dempsey go to Liverpool so they can have new fodder to throw under the bus about underachieving when they were never good enough in the first place.and more importantly, they're bound to return to the mean anyways...
Dempsey's been the best player on that Fulham team for a few years now, it's only the past year or two where he's been a prolific goalscorer. RVP's problems in the past were usually injury related, too, not with his general play.
Agree with the marketing opportunity though, many of the US fans I know have this intense loyalty to USMNT players that I have never really understood. Wouldn't be surprised if there was a huge increase in US LFC fans, especially in my area since Dempsey started with the Revolution.
sazabirules
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That Dempsey video was great.
He did manage to bag Chelsea Essien, Cech and Robben to Chelsea when he moved there, players that were United targets when he was with us and were (at least Robben anyway) certain to sign for us.
I don't expect it from him... but I'm confident he will reach it nonetheless. Frankly I don't care how many goals he scores if we're winning games. Obviously there are tons of variables that you can't account for, but I've liked what I've seen of him so far and Arsenal is one of the most striker-friendly/dependent (take your pick) teams in the PL. This is not Chelsea where strikers are forced to create chances for themselves; this team was built around feeding RVP (a syndrome very similar to Henry's last season). I'm not saying that you could just stick Heskey up there and he'd hit 20 a season, but... Giroud's no Heskey.
Worst case scenario: Adebayor. Still hit 20 goals. Best case scenario: Drogba (the comparison's been made! though I'm a bit skeptical myself) Very best case scenario: RVP's departure gives the whole team a bit of extra freedom and we go back to playing attractive football that actually wins like its 07-08 all over again.
Worst worst case scenario: Chamakh
Broder Salsa
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Crazy that PSG were willing and dumb enough to pay that much for Zlatan. Thiago Silva on the other hand will probably be worth it.
Hopefully this won't mean Milan will now go spending like crazy.
Hopefully this won't mean Milan will now go spending like crazy.
doubt it. Sounds like Berlusconi is trying to cash out on Milan; he hardly spent big after Kaka's sale. I'd imagine Tevez is on his way to Milan though, assuming the wages can be kept at a reasonable level. or maybe another suitor for RVP? we all know Galliani likes to cheap out.
Dont.. don't do this. We already have one dc75
So you saying it'll be borining?
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