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Football Thread 2013/14 |OT5| Levy to Woodward "You're nobody. Pass me the ball"

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GorillaJu

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Tim the Wiz said:
What. Atletico or any non-Barca/Madrid Spanish side is a step down from Dortmund.

And Klopp made a check with Shinji's agent during the summer. If he's not getting first team football, that will probably be his first destination. I wouldn't see it as admitting failure either. Many players have their best spells and most success after not fitting in at 'big' clubs - Sneijder and Eto'o in Inter's 2010 side come to mind.
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I'm saying that going back to a club he made a conscious decision to leave would be a step backward. It would be admitting that he couldn't reach his goals and isn't ready to play with the big boys. Spain, on the other hand, would still be a fresh experience and as a league is more prestigious than Bundes
 
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Lightning

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Madrid don't seem to be taking Ozil's departure too well. You just signed Gareth Bale on a record fee and instead of celebrating they seem to be annoyed that Ozil is gone.

Surely even Madrid realise that all those players couldn't play?
 
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MPW

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Lightning said:
Madrid don't seem to be taking Ozil's departure too well. You just signed Gareth Bale on a record fee and instead of celebrating they seem to be annoyed that Ozil is gone.

Surely even Madrid realise that all those players couldn't play?
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exactly

rather sell him now than a year later when he publicly comes out to say he wants out and his value decreases due to not playing as much as before

got good value for him and biggest amount of $$$ madrid got from selling a player, madrid got over 100m pounds selling players this trasnfer market which is not a bad result financially

plus, it is not like we did not get someone to replace him
 
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dc89

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Srsly though Wilbz. If your arse chafes there are plenty of solutions in the work place.

Flour. Yep, it will act like talc. Or you could use some Perinaise or Garlic and Herb sauce.
 
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Yurt

il capo silenzioso
Salvadora said:
Yeah I'd be down with that.

Mertesacker seems completely devoted to the clause, as does Rosicky. The later should be given a one year deal due to his age though.

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arkon said:
At least Yurt can still complain about Iniesta.
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Salazar

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Winter article.

It will annoy you, Unitedbros

The champions brought in David Moyes’s No1 target, Marouane Fellaini, and managed to retain the heavyweight services of Wayne Rooney, who had flirted with a move to Chelsea.

Supporters, though, wanted more.

It is understood that Manchester United did not want to be rushed into the wrong signings, or what they considered overpriced signings like Ander ­Herrera. They expect to be busier in the next two windows, not necessarily January, but certainly next summer.

However frustrating in the short term for fans who understandably want the team strengthened, the club’s long-term commitment to Moyes means they take a more phlegmatic, longer view.

The club now have time to work with Moyes, establishing his targets.

He will be given “patience and money” to build his squad, according to a United source. The champions are actively scouting a left-back, a high-class centre-back and a central midfielder (a process that has been ongoing since 2007).

“This was always going to be a difficult transfer window with a new manager,’’ the United source said, “but the club wouldn’t change anything we did in the transfer window.
"We’ve kept Wayne, our biggest concern. We’ve got a lot of talent in with Fellaini and Guillermo Varela [the Uruguayan full-back]. [Wilfried] Zaha is in the squad and Adnan [Januzaj] has been promoted. No one’s gone out. We’ve got a big squad.”

Big but not heavyweight, argue many supporters.
With Moyes newly arrived, there was an understanding inside Car­rington and Old Trafford that he should be given time to examine his squad.
He knew 15 or so of the United players well, having set up Everton to face them over recent seasons, but the club wanted Moyes to get to know the rest of the squad, assessing their potential before making moves in the transfer market.
The champions have been perplexed at claims that they struggled to do deals such as the Herrera saga. The club have been tracking the Athlétic Bilbao midfielder for two years. After discussions at Old Trafford involving Moyes and chief executive Edward Woodward, the club decided on a budget for a 24-year-old who has yet to represent Spain.

An inquiry was made to Bilbao, and a £26 million bid reportedly offered, but it became clear that United would get Herrera only through meeting the buy-out clause of £30.5 million.

“The fee was too much,’’ the United source said. “He’s a very good player but not a top, top player.”

United have huge resources to invest in players, both in transfer fees and salaries, but are determined to run the club as a business and not over-pay. They were particularly ­frustrated to miss out on Sir Alex ­Ferguson’s No 1 midfield target, Lucas Moura, in 2012 when the Brazilian went to Paris St-Germain for £40 million, beyond United’s valuation.
Having decided that £30.5 million was above their valuation of Herrera, United ended all interest in the player on Sunday. Contact was made with Athletic Bilbao and the player’s ­representatives to inform them of United’s decision.

The following day, transfer deadline day, United were bemused when three individuals purporting to represent the club appeared at the Spanish league offices on Monday afternoon looking to get involved in the deal.

“They were like fake sheikhs,” the United source said. “They were ­nothing to do with us.’’
The so-called “imposters” were actually members of a Bilbao law firm reportedly used by the Spanish club to facilitate paperwork.

On Monday, United received calls from middlemen saying they could get them Herrera. “They were just trying to insert themselves in the deal,” the United source said. “They were trying to get an introduction fee. A lot of people tried to get involved.”
United are still interested in Herrera and are understood to have spoken to his representatives again. “To spend too much at the end of the window is something the club are not going to do,” the source said.

This summer, United turned down well-known attacking midfielders who have ended up at English clubs. The champions were offered Willian, the Anzhi Makhachkala player who ended up at Chelsea but apparently was keen to join United.

The feeling within Carrington was that they had a No 10 in Rooney. Moyes, Woodward and others at the club had worked hard to ensure Rooney stayed, partly because they rate him highly and also because they did not want him ­leaving to strengthen rivals like Chelsea.
They repeated this mantra of “not for sale” and kept their No 10. The storm of criticism being directed at Moyes and Woodward would have been even stronger had Rooney left for Chelsea.

Four weeks ago, United were also offered Mesut Özil for substantially less than the £42.4 million for which he eventually went to Arsenal on transfer deadline day. United liked Özil but declined the chance to pursue him again because of this belief in Rooney as their tempo-setting No 10. They also consider Shinji Kagawa an option as a creative force behind Robin van Persie.

Moyes was very interested in working with Leighton Baines again and a bid was put into Everton for the left-back. It quickly became apparent to United that Everton could not countenance losing two players in Baines and Fellaini, who was the less embedded.
There is also sensitivity within the club towards their current first-choice left-back, the highly respected vice-captain, Patrice Evra, who has started the season well.
There is still a concern about whether Evra can play 50 games in the season, and a move for Baines in one of the next two transfer windows cannot be discounted.
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Salazar

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Fucking Woodward spin

United have huge resources to invest in players, both in transfer fees and salaries, but are determined to run the club as a business and not over-pay.
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THAT "OPERATING AS A BUSINESS" TING INVOLVES A RATE OF INVESTMENT COMPETITIVE WITH THAT OF RIVAL CLUBS

Nobody's going to congratulate you on your fucking prudence and reticence

"Oh, you didn't splurge on Lucas Moura. Well done, you sharply suited American personality-voids. Well done"
 
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Tim the Wiz

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odd_morsel said:
I'm saying that going back to a club he made a conscious decision to leave would be a step backward. It would be admitting that he couldn't reach his goals and isn't ready to play with the big boys. Spain, on the other hand, would still be a fresh experience and as a league is more prestigious than Bundes
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Ah, it would be admitting that he couldn't adapt to, or find trust in, United's style of play over two seasons which include a change in management.

And nobody in their right mind would pass up the possibility of winning league or CL trophies with Dortmund for the certainty of finishing third or lower in a nebulously 'more prestigious' league, regardless of outdated perceptions of backward steps and who the big boys are; I'd be willing to bet on it.

But let's not get ahead of ourselves, the season is yet to be played.
 
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Tim the Wiz

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Salazar said:
Fucking Woodward spin



THAT "OPERATING AS A BUSINESS" TING INVOLVES A RATE OF INVESTMENT COMPETITIVE WITH THAT OF RIVAL CLUBS

Nobody's going to congratulate you on your fucking prudence and reticence

"Oh, you didn't splurge on Lucas Moura. Well done, you sharply suited American personality-voids. Well done"
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With unlimited funds comes great responsibility.
 
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IRAQcitizen

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amazing really, i dreamed the day fergie would retire see united fall short, is happening with incompetent owners, i can see this go very well lollollolllllllllllllllolllolloll


hahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahhahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahah
 
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KidA Seven

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IRAQcitizen said:
amazing really, i dreamed the day fergie would retire see united fall short, is happening with incompetent owners, i can see this go very well lollollolllllllllllllllolllolloll


hahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahhahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahah
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You try very hard. That's the spirit.
 
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brokenbeans

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IRAQcitizen said:
amazing really, i dreamed the day fergie would retire see united fall short, is happening with incompetent owners, i can see this go very well lollollolllllllllllllllolllolloll


hahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahhahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahah
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Anyone else got a visual of this retard rocking back and forth laughing?
 
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sohois

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IRAQcitizen is a great poster, he's hilarious and not in a laugh at him way. I just love his slightly broken English, that coupled with his username makes me imagine him as some extremely gregarious Middle-Eastern man who invites you to his home for dinner, then threatens you with a machete if you go near his daughters.
 
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Clegg

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You can yell that United were desperate to get someone in before the end of the window.

£35m for Same Khedira was a pure panic bid and I'm delighted we didn't sign him.
 
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brokenbeans

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sohois said:
IRAQcitizen is a great poster, he's hilarious and not in a laugh at him way. I just love his slightly broken English, that coupled with his username makes me imagine him as some extremely gregarious Middle-Eastern man who invites you to his home for dinner, then threatens you with a machete if you go near his daughters.
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I think he's a troll.
 
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brokenbeans

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Clegg said:
You can yell that United were desperate to get someone in before the end of the window.

£35m for Same Khedira was a pure panic bid and I'm delighted we didn't sign him.
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Same I bet Real were loving that price.

If he wanted a player in that mould he could of had his pick over the summer, especially with that kinda cash.

Total panic mode.
 
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Sleeplessnights

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Salazar said:
Fucking Woodward spin



THAT "OPERATING AS A BUSINESS" TING INVOLVES A RATE OF INVESTMENT COMPETITIVE WITH THAT OF RIVAL CLUBS

Nobody's going to congratulate you on your fucking prudence and reticence

"Oh, you didn't splurge on Lucas Moura. Well done, you sharply suited American personality-voids. Well done"
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I may not be a business graduate but I know that Ronaldo makes perfect business sense to buy
 
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Carbonox

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Salazar said:
Mourinho pls

Ba wasn't even that good at Newcastle
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salsa pls

He only works as the lone striker and he did that very well for us. When he was partnered with Cisse however or shoved on the wing, that's when he played pony.

Pardew hindered Ba big time. Without his goals last season for us, we probably would have been relegated for sure.
 
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Manager

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Maybe old, checked 10 pages.

Crystal Palace have left summer signings Stephen Dobbie and Florian Marange out of their 25-man squad for the 2013/14 Premier League season.

Also omitted from the squad is forward Aaron Wilbraham, who started against Spurs and featured as a late substitute in last Saturday's 3-1 win over Sunderland.

And there was also no room for midfielder Owen Garvan after he had appeared in Palace's opening three games in all competitions before being left out of the Sunderland victory.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/...n-crystal-palaces-25-man-premier-league-squad

owen garvan
@garvalution
I'll be here longer then he will...trust me

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Dumbasses...
 
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Sleeplessnights

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Salazar said:
Winter article.

It will annoy you, Unitedbros
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I just read this and it doesn't annoy me as much right now but some of those individual cases have annoyed me at their time when they happened.

The first part about United seeing Moyes as a long term investment and wanting him to get to know the squad. This is something I felt was the reason behind them choosing Moyes over someone insane like Mou.

Mou would have sold Kagawa, Rooney, Chicharito and probably Van Persie after the Liverpool match.
 
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LTWheels

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LOLOLOLOL

Greg Dyke has warned England will "fail to compete seriously on the world stage" altogether if an "alarming" lack of homegrown talent is not urgently addressed, and the new Football Association chairman has set the target of winning the 2022 World Cup to focus minds.

"The problem is serious, very serious," he warned of the "frightening trend" of fewer and fewer homegrown players playing in the top flight. "English football is a tanker that needs turning," said Dyke in his first major speech in the role, calling on the game to unite to address the problem. "I want to set the whole of English football two targets. The first is for the England team to at least reach the semi-finals of the Euro Championship in 2020 and the second is for us to win the World Cup in 2022."
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FA better start looking for a new manager then.
 
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Mr Cola

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LTWheels said:
LOLOLOLOL



FA better start looking for a new manager then.
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Even as English fans its actually more fun to laugh at the woefulness of our current team than it was to believe they could win something. I end up watching National competitions for the other teams, the big clashes, thats what is exciting to me, not the group stage where we grind out 1-0 wins while playing shitty negative football.
 
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GorillaJu

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Manager said:
Maybe old, checked 10 pages.

Crystal Palace have left summer signings Stephen Dobbie and Florian Marange out of their 25-man squad for the 2013/14 Premier League season.

Also omitted from the squad is forward Aaron Wilbraham, who started against Spurs and featured as a late substitute in last Saturday's 3-1 win over Sunderland.

And there was also no room for midfielder Owen Garvan after he had appeared in Palace's opening three games in all competitions before being left out of the Sunderland victory.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/...n-crystal-palaces-25-man-premier-league-squad

owen garvan
@garvalution
I'll be here longer then he will...trust me

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Dumbasses...
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Signing two players, then not registering them for the PL? I just don't see the logic...
 
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