Same can be said for Ramsey who was outstanding before Shawcross cunt nearly ruined his career. Ramsey was better than Wilshere then, got his leg broken, Wilshere stepped up but got injured and now Ramsey is getting back to where he was and then some. I'm convinced we need to focus on Ramsey. His potential is there, you can see why Wenger and Fergie wanted him.
Football Thread 2013/14 |OT5| Levy to Woodward "You're nobody. Pass me the ball"
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Gareth Bale
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This is why the international break came at the wrong time. Mad extrapolation.
LabouredSubterfuge
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They're going to win the league Gareth. Naught to do now but play out the season long procession.
Who are you willing to sacrifice in the middle for an extra forward/winger up front?
Arteta keeps getting a year older, in a year or two, both he and Rosicky will be out of the team. Ideally, replaced by Wilsherewith Zelalem stepping in as his understudy.
You know nothing about Polanski you lump of smooth flesh. Pass me the ball.
It's came up because of the midfield dilemma we now have. One is going to have to drop to the bench, and it would be Wilshere on current form.
'Worlds away' is obviously an exaggeration, but Wilshere hasn't quite looked up to it since returning from injury and Ramsey is playing in a way I didn't think possible of him.I've been blown away. As jtb said, Wilshere just needs time. I certainly would never think of selling him in a 100 years.
Edit: I don't think it's mad to say Ramsey is better than Wilshere. I'm referring to the now. What we've seen on the pitch in the last few weeks. I know exactly what Wilshere is capable of.
Pogba or Pirlo.
I've already had to distance myself from him.
Sleeplessnights
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The rawr video is alright, song's good though.
2012 - Wilshere is the best young midfielder in the world.
2013 - Let's sell him if we get a good offer.
2012 - Ramsey just hasn't progressed and we should sell him
2013 - Ramsey is amazing and better than Wilshere by miles
2012 - Wenger out
2013 - Wenger stay
Man you Arsenal fans are fickle :lol
2013 - Let's sell him if we get a good offer.
2012 - Ramsey just hasn't progressed and we should sell him
2013 - Ramsey is amazing and better than Wilshere by miles
2012 - Wenger out
2013 - Wenger stay
Man you Arsenal fans are fickle :lol
as embarrassing as that is it has some truth to it. I can admit with shame that I thought Ramsey was shit last year and he really was. Rosicky too. I do not associate myself with the other filthy points you made.
Yeah, I don't see what's wrong with that.
I'm sure Wilbury's opinion on Ashley Young has change since he joined. Ramsey was really bad for a long time
Vivalaraza
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Well maybe Ramsey is in better form and yes, you could argue he is more deserving of a place than Wilshere right now.
But team selections are rarely as simple as that especially in the long run. Saying Ramsey is better than Wilshere right now may well be true but to me it almost sounds like you guys are suggesting prioritising Ramsey over Wilshere - which to me is just crazy.
Ramsey is doing well and was doing well before his injury a couple of years back. But Wilshere genuinely is "worlds away" from him in terms of his potential. He is the one player Arsenal should compromise for.
I accept the Wenger one but I've never brought into the Wilshere hype while always admiring Ramsey.
And we're not the only ones fickle in this way. Wenger can be a big wind up. In saying that I don't want Wilshere sold, just behind Ramsey in the pecking order.
Sleeplessnights
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I'll watch the rest of the Firefly tomorrow, Messi and Linius pls don't kill me.
No I didn't want Young from the start.
Wilbury...I think it's time for you to tell us how you really feel about Young.
Lightning, I remember posts from you saying that you should build the team around Wilshere, or that he was one of your essential players that absolutely shouldn't be sold :lol.
I wouldn't dare suggest prioritising Ramsey over Wilshere, I'm talking about the team selection for next wee while. I will fully admit that team selection under Wenger will probably not be like that
I'm one of Wilshere biggest fans, I think he can be incredible and want to see that happen. But he just needs to be nurtured at the moment.
Lightning pls
I just mean football is a fickle business. You don't hold the same opinions you had before, things change. I was truly on the Wenger out bandwagon, thinking he was going to spend absolutely nothing this summer. But he bought the best play-a-maker in the world. Things change, I'm now not so sure.
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Didn't he get banned for taking drugs or something?
He was taking his wife's weight loss pills.
Exactly, I mean it's like if Benz suddenly became of Cavani or Falcao's quality next year. Who in the whole world, aside from Turok, would have expected that if it happened? Wilbury pls understand.I wouldn't dare suggest prioritising Ramsey over Wilshere, I'm talking about the team selection for next wee while. I will fully admit that team selection under Wenger will probably not be like that
I'm one of Wilshere biggest fans, I think he can be incredible and want to see that happen. But he just needs to be nurtured at the moment.
Lightning pls
I just mean football is a fickle business. You don't hold the same opinions you had before, things change. I was truly on the Wenger out bandwagon, thinking he was going to spend absolutely nothing this summer. But he bought the best play-a-maker in the world. Things change, I'm now not so sure.
Well I can't remember that but I must have either way I've changed my mind.
Wilshere not for sale, not for starting line up either. Bench for Jack.
Arteta, Ramsey and Ozil should be our midfield.
Vivalaraza
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=62210049&highlight=wilshere#post62210049
Lightning wouldn't be against Ramsey being forced out.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=62176491&highlight=wilshere#post62176491
And why go for Gundogan, they've got Jack?
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Lightning wouldn't be against Ramsey being forced out.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=62176491&highlight=wilshere#post62176491
And why go for Gundogan, they've got Jack?
:lol
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pls go back to parmesan cheese
Sleeplessnights
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This is fantastic
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Mr.Marston
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We're hosting Roma in the next game. We're so fucking done but with Roma having sold some of their best players we may be lucky and have the goddess of football on our side.
I always thought he was great, no uturn from me. But I am sure you arent generalizing right?
Given a fully fit, top of their form squad, every single player at the best of their ability, who would you choose Lightning? Wilshere or Ramsay?
The only way Jack settles into his groove and becomes absolutely attuned to first team football again is playing. Not overplaying because that'll exacerbate whatever injury problems he might have, but at this point in his career, a player of his ability shouldn't be benched.
The only way Jack settles into his groove and becomes absolutely attuned to first team football again is playing. Not overplaying because that'll exacerbate whatever injury problems he might have, but at this point in his career, a player of his ability shouldn't be benched.
Itäds Barfcelona fans, htgey'd drpopl over a Masdrid B playetr and mkae him into the next Messuj if thy had the chance
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T2 is still good...the others not so much.
NO NOT THERE, ANYWHERE BUT THERE
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They're looking solid this year, although yet to be tested really. Garcia's a good appointment but they won't go the distance. Three or four stronger sides for sure.
Parma I know next to nothing about, apart from Cuntssano lol. O nd dey hv nawty kits
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They're looking solid this year, although yet to be tested really. Garcia's a good appointment but they won't go the distance. Three or four stronger sides for sure.
Parma I know next to nothing about, apart from Cuntssano lol. O nd dey hv nawty kits
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