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Sevilla managed to discover how utterly shit moreno is
The_Hitcher89
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One of the worst second half performances I've ever seen, and what a time to put it in. Done with Moreno, and Milner at CM against decent teams.
Congrats Sevilla.
Congrats Sevilla.
Phantast2k
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Milch is correct. Also:
1) What you claimed to be all over French media is basically some French media citing that 20minutes report you posted.
2) BVB is a publicly traded so future expenses in this ballpark would probably have to be reported. Anyhow, we will be able to see a traces of such a transfer in the financial statement (e.g. hike in accrued expenses).
/also gutted for Liverpool & Kloppo.
At least we can 100% focus on the league next season now, but yeah, really bad performance from the players in the second half, did fuck all and showed just how completely awful are defense is. It's going to be an expensive summer.
Audioboxer
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Yeah Milner is being honest on camera just now.
Soria would've have saved them anyway.
Sell him for his organs.
Milchmonster
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We all know sports journalism. One makes it up, the others copy that number. L'Equipe only says 15m + bonuses, no specific number. I don't trust those crazy bonus figures. And I don't trust the sportbild numbers either. But I trust L'Equipe and Ruhrnachrichten who both say 15m + potential bonuses.
And like I said, we are not Bayern. We are not that rich. Our record signing was Micky who was a direct Götze replacement, we don't splash out 30m+ for Dembele. And like I said, due to stock market regulations, we would know if it was the case.
Also, you should consider the connections sportbild mentions. Rennes' boss has a large amount of Puma shares, which has a large amount of BVB shares. Look at Reus, Puma was willing to pay part of his salary. Not too crazy to think it was in Puma's interest to have Dembele playing in a BVB shirt instead of an Adidas one.
Audioboxer
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Damn Moreno on that replay, that was poor.
Btw I'm a Man Utd fan, but I love Klopp. No unnecessary hostility from me to Liverpool either.
Btw I'm a Man Utd fan, but I love Klopp. No unnecessary hostility from me to Liverpool either.
Phantast2k
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If Klopp shops right Liverpool can easily end up in the top 4 next season and maybe even win it.
Jose Enrique him, we shouldn't punish any other team with his awfulness.
wont be easy since chelsea is in the same boat
Need a whole new defense and new keeper to even challenge for the top 4 next season
Are we out of europa next season?
We were decimated by injuries this season, May benefit us having a few less games.
Phantast2k
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You've already signed Matip & Karius. He'll probably get Subotic too who I feel will do great in the EPL.
Yeah, every other team will have a ton of cash too, let's just hope everyone is just as shit as they were this season (excluding Leicester), maybe we'll steal a top 4 spot.
Yip.
Audioboxer
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Liverpool? There's no European football for them as they finished 8th in the league. Had to win this to get into CL.
privitsan02
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Hurts. Fuck Moreno. Amazing how inconsistent Firmino and Coutinho have been despite the latter winning player of the season. Doubt we'll even get top 4 next season with Mourinho and Pep in it, along with Spurs and Leicesters rise.
Milchmonster
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Welcome to Dortmund in 2017
WadiumArcadium
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Fucking bottled it. What an awful second half performance. I knew it was going too well. Klopp must know he needs a new left back.
Audioboxer
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While I can agree the season next year is going to be brutally hard.
Chelsea are in the same position. You figure City and Arsenal will surely end up being in the Top 4. So that leaves Chelsea, Spurs, United, Liverpool, Southampton and West Ham battling it out for the other 2 spots. Not an easy task.
I am assuming that Leicester City will have a tough time managing all the games/competitions next year. Although they rightfully have as much of a shot as anyone else.
Audioboxer
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Moreno trending on Twitter. Dude isn't having a good sleep tonight lol.
Although he was definitely the weakest player and cost us 2 goals, I hope he isn't going to be an escape goat, everyone but maybe Toure was shit, blame them too.
This stuff definitely could play a role, you're right. I guess this might be one of these things we never know the full truth.
The Carragher tweet was pretty funny:
Liverpool are probably better off not having to deal with Europe.
Moreno getting a lot of blame (and rightly so, especially at first goal), but feel the whole team couldn't cope within the first 15-20 minutes of the second half, and Klopp did nothing to try and stem the tide. After our pressing died down, Sevilla bossed the midfield and our defence was continually exposed. Would of liked Joe Allen a little bit earlier at 1-1.
Congrats to Sevilla, they know how to win this thing. Surprised Emery has never been mentioned amongst the top managers in the world; tactically he is outstanding.
Congrats to Sevilla, they know how to win this thing. Surprised Emery has never been mentioned amongst the top managers in the world; tactically he is outstanding.
GHG
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This stuff definitely could play a role, you're right. I guess this might be one of these things we never know the full truth.
The Carragher tweet was pretty funny:
Liverpool are probably better off not having to deal with Europe.
Lol brutal. Kieran Gibbs could be available soon.
WhateverItTakes
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Uuuuuuuugh, that hurt. Losing games hurts, losing finals hurts even worse, and the utter impotence of the team in the second half was heartbreaking.
But, I wasn't expecting any finals this season. I wasn't expecting a fucking ridiculous comeback against Dortmund. I wasn't expecting Firminho to come out with severe tekkers. Not from Klopp's first (not even full) season.
We can build something from this. Hopefully a couple transfers will be announced to cheer us up, dead weight (Moreno) can be shipped out, we can just train harder. Because we are not good enough for Europe right now, and it's been too long since we've been away from it. Let us build again. Let us believe again.
But, I wasn't expecting any finals this season. I wasn't expecting a fucking ridiculous comeback against Dortmund. I wasn't expecting Firminho to come out with severe tekkers. Not from Klopp's first (not even full) season.
We can build something from this. Hopefully a couple transfers will be announced to cheer us up, dead weight (Moreno) can be shipped out, we can just train harder. Because we are not good enough for Europe right now, and it's been too long since we've been away from it. Let us build again. Let us believe again.
We will never escape out lack of consistency :'(
Audioboxer
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Moreno seems a given to stay. Klopp might even make him captain next season.
For all the talk of Villareal acting like they'd won the semi final at the end of the first leg of the semi, it looks like that's what Liverpool did at half time tonight. Came out with completely the wrong mentality.
And Moreno just has to go. He can't possibly continue to claim that he is a defender in any way shape or form.
And Moreno just has to go. He can't possibly continue to claim that he is a defender in any way shape or form.
JonnyDBrit
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Just watched that. If they actually manage it, it'll be amazing.
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
hope they win
1st half
Liverpool a solid 7, Sevilla 4.
No one was terrible, but only really Sturridge did anything really good, could have easily been 2 or 3 nil up.
2nd half
Liverpool -10, Sevilla 10
Liverpool did fuck all, and Sevilla were just playing for fun toward the end.
As for who'll be safe
Lovren, Clyne, Can, Lallana,Firmino,Coutinho, Sturridge, Origi and Millner will probably be fine, maybe some will lose their 1st team spot if we buy well. The rest I don't know, most will probably stay because I doubt we'll have many buyers lining up, but will probably be bench warmers if they are lucky.
15M for a player coming from a small french team sounds ok. Probably bonus clauses to jump into the 25M territory. You are used to bigger figures because everyone knows EPL teams have a lot of money so nobody is going to sell for cheap.
La Liga clubs are better than clubs in any other league, that has been known for a while now. The coefficient ranking doesn't lie.
I wonder what's in the water over there and if we can import some
You think Henderson will be gone? And yeah, some of them will be on really good wages and will be hard to shift, especially Benteke.
A mix of Germany's academy quality, EPL's foreign money and good food.
I'm not really sure about him, just have a feeling we'll get a decent offer for him and take it. Though he has been injured quite a bit this season, so maybe Klopp will give him another shot. I honestly wouldn't care either way, he's shown potential, but has been pretty poor since the 2013/14 season.
Phoenix Fang
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And don't forget that very effective winter break.
I have a feeling Henderson is gone. I hope Allen stays though.
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