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Football Thread |OT11| Campaign: Save a donkey in Colombia
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Vivalaraza
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Villa out and Neymar in at Barca this summer.
Makes too much sense.
Obviously means Bebe will be going to Barcelona and Sanchez the other way to replace the outgoing Nani who will be going to San Lorenzo with Coloccini.
Thought he was moving after the World Cup?
Would love to see him next season though. Shame it's to Barca.
darkside31337
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God I hope this happens so bad.
Luiz and Fellaini together would be the definition of sex hair.
Bebe will become a United legend. He'll be at United as long as Fergie has. He'll become our player-manager in 2015.
Sleeplessnights
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Have we beaten City since their oil injection?
Not since 2005 in the PL!
That makes me so sad. Inferior Manchester should be our whipping boys.
Maybe one day you too will be taken over a by a rich businessman...
LabouredSubterfuge
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Scott Wootton has been loaned to Peterborough. What a time to be alive.
This is what Barca want but Neymar wants to stay until after the world cup. We shall see
Shatner's Bassoon
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for Manchester City.
Lambda Pie
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we have League Cup today, so it's non-stop stop football action from 17:00 onwards.
trivia of the day: i was born and raised in the same town as Mourinho, still see his dad nearly everyday.
trivia of the day: i was born and raised in the same town as Mourinho, still see his dad nearly everyday.
Well his agent has played a blinder. It's either sign him up or lose him for nothing. Maybe one day Arsenal will start sorting out player contracts before they are due to expire.
Vivalaraza
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He definitely is, esp in this "market".
I think he most certainly will be, within those five years.
He gets a lot of shit but he's a quality player, and he's got so much experience and development under his belt at the age of 23, the age players really start to progress into their peak years. Between now, and until he's 28, I fully expect Walcott to be a top goalscorer in the premier league. If that's not worth £90k a week, then we disagree, I think he's integral to keeping them moving forwards as a club, and if he'd have left, Arsenal would become a laughing stock once more.
Arsenal fans shouldn't really care what he's on for the next five years, they should care that he's playing and scoring for them.
Can Crusher
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Doesn't he want to go to Barça? (Neymar)
Personally I think he should stay away from Barça and Madrid. Barça because the team is about Messi, and Madrid because it's a shithole of a place where great players go to destroy their careers. It's an anarchic club that is more about the brand that is marketed all over the world these days than it is about football.
For example, I perceive United to be a brand of football, and Madrid to be a brand of pop culture. It's more about the image, it's more about the star quality.
It's disposable fast food, it's about trying to shove the maximum amount of calorie intake you can get. It's 50% sugar 50% protein. And any time the protein count goes up and the sugar count down, you have the consumers barking at the chef that it ain't tasting so sweet no more, and the chef is fired.
But hey, it's great if you wanna be a pop star.
Personally I think he should stay away from Barça and Madrid. Barça because the team is about Messi, and Madrid because it's a shithole of a place where great players go to destroy their careers. It's an anarchic club that is more about the brand that is marketed all over the world these days than it is about football.
For example, I perceive United to be a brand of football, and Madrid to be a brand of pop culture. It's more about the image, it's more about the star quality.
It's disposable fast food, it's about trying to shove the maximum amount of calorie intake you can get. It's 50% sugar 50% protein. And any time the protein count goes up and the sugar count down, you have the consumers barking at the chef that it ain't tasting so sweet no more, and the chef is fired.
But hey, it's great if you wanna be a pop star.
I suppose he is worth it in the hyper inflated world of football.
But in a more stable market he'd be nowhere near that kind of money. The same could be said of Rooney and his massive wages but he'd be more deserving of them than players like Walcott.
Yes, but that's an alternate reality.
It's that same argument that I've had thrown at me when people say Moyes is a better manager than Rafa, 'because if Moyes had been given money Everton would've done much better than Liverpool'. I think it's nonsense, and revisionist.
Walcott is worth £90k a week.
Lambda Pie
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i have no clue. his dad did almost spill the beans when Mou left Inter for Real though.
I was thinking that too, but only if Tito's illness prevents him from doing the job.
Pep is going to Milan or City. Plus, Tito is doing a wonderful job over there anyway.
Can Crusher
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I hope Pep doesn't go to Barça. I need to see if he is the real deal, or if he just rode on the back of 3 of the greatest players Barcelona ever had in their positions, and the best player ever in the world.
Tito is killing it for example. Honestly? Shit, I think any manager with a brain would.
Tito is killing it for example. Honestly? Shit, I think any manager with a brain would.
Vivalaraza
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Don't know about that.
That is the market though. It's a market where RVP, Rooney, Yaya Toure and Aguero earn more or less £200k a week. David Silva earns £170k. So does Balotelli. Nemanja Vidic is on £120k or maybe more. Gerrard and Lampard are in 6 figures too. Apparently Liverpool renewed their key players' contracts and pushed them at or above £100k also. Adebayor close to £100k. We've seen the list of players at Arsenal who are on £50k.
In Spain the big clubs pay more than anybody in England does.
Walcott might not be at the level of many of those players but he isn't miles and miles behind either. It is inflated but it seems like it's inflated for good now.
I think £90k for Walcott is very fair. Especially when you consider Arsenal are going to be earning close to £75m more in guaranteed revenue in a couple of seasons.
PrematureQuiche
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Vivalaraza
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Think they enquired about it but we said no.
but we need another Cunt.
Should go for Suarez too.
Good.
He'd be better off staying at United.
Its a bit concerning that he's only scored once this season though.
Don't leave us Fellaini
This needs to happen. Sorry farid.
Vivalaraza
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Loan deal isn't a good idea for us or him.
Welbeck is suffering from a lack of consistent football in his preferred position. Unfortunately he just isn't as good as the other 3 players there, not much can be done about it.
You failed to mention Godtrucci is also going #yolo
As a player, I don't think Walcott is worth 90k a week. An incontinent player and even worse with his back to goal.
However, as a statement that Arsenal are trying to keep their best players, this contract is far more important. Moreover, this might convince other young english players (Ox, Gibbs, Jenkinson EDIT: I realise I was wrong about this!!...but do you get the point? that now Wilshire and Walcott have committed to the long term future that they should too. If it does happen, it could be an assertion of the english core that Wenger promised their fans many moons ago.
If it does go ahead, an important contract.
Edit: yeah fair point Viva, would have said their youth players...but don't know them ;-)
However, as a statement that Arsenal are trying to keep their best players, this contract is far more important. Moreover, this might convince other young english players (Ox, Gibbs, Jenkinson EDIT: I realise I was wrong about this!!...but do you get the point?
that now Wilshire and Walcott have committed to the long term future that they should too. If it does happen, it could be an assertion of the english core that Wenger promised their fans many moons ago.If it does go ahead, an important contract.
Edit: yeah fair point Viva, would have said their youth players...but don't know them ;-)
Vivalaraza
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I believe all those players signed long term extensions just before the new year.
Agree though, important for them to keep him.
Freewheelin'
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Yeah I think Walcott is a good player, I just wish we offered this money to RVP
The Ox, Gibbs and Jenkinson signed contracts at the same time as Wilshere (as did Ramsey). (beaten)
Vivalaraza
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That wouldn't have changed anything IMO.Yeah I think Walcott is a good player, I just wish we offered this money to RVP
I think Petrucci's loan deal only lasts for a month.
It's going to happen, and it will be glorious.Don't leave us Fellaini
Yeah I think Walcott is a good player, I just wish we offered this money to RVP
RVP wanted double that.
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