Mm, I don't think he'll go Madrid. If he didn't feel like retiring that strongly, I think he'd want to stay at Bayern. He has a good thing going there.
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Mm, I don't think he'll go Madrid. If he didn't feel like retiring that strongly, I think he'd want to stay at Bayern. He has a good thing going there.
That's probably why it works for me. I've very little interest in his movies. So it's just another reason to steer well clear. And he'll always be that guy.
Now Chris Brown. Oh god. I couldn't live without his music.
go home ur drunk
I don't drink and I am home. What do I do now?
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Why does my stream only freeze at both ends of the field? 
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so millonarios were the champions of colombia? ...
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Corona goal again
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Goooool!
I couldn't tell who because it froze on me. :/
Edit: Tecatito!!
I couldn't tell who because it froze on me. :/
Edit: Tecatito!!
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Bueno goal 3-0
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Third one! I don know how, I just saw the score!
PL being the best league is a different argument than the PL having the best teams. Or would you say La Liga is the best league?
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cross to far post, headed down (Briseno?) and tapped in by Bueno.
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The donkeys from the senior team could learn a few things about passing from these guys.
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which is the best league in the world then
He'll say Bundesliga I suppose. They have a number of strong teams, but only two or potentially three that I'd say are really strong teams. La Liga has three, the PL has three, Serie A has one or two (but is a better league than La Liga overall for sure).
For amount of quality teams, I'd say Serie A is the best. For the league with the best teams, La Liga. But the best league? Probably the PL when you factor in entertainment, dramatic moments like the Aguero one people were talking about earlier, etc.
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wat. Serie A is dead.
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Nah. They just share the quality more evenly. La Liga has Barcelona and Real Madrid above everyone, then Atletico, then Valencia and Malaga.
Serie A has Juventus a notch or two above everyone, then Milan, Inter, Roma, Napoli, Lazio and Fiorentina around the same level, with Udinese regularly not far behind. That's a fair amount of strong teams as opposed to five or six max in La Liga, six or seven in the PL and probably five or six in the Bundesliga. Just because their strong teams aren't as strong as those in other leagues doesn't mean the quality of the league suffers.
Serie A is my second favourite league by far.
I didn't say that entirely because of that, but this:
I don't watch La Liga enough to judge. I agree with what you said, but nevertheless, the decline in quality is clear that of the top teams. I think the PL can be the most entertaining most of the time, but best... best in what?
He is leaving and you guys are going to get Redknapp.
He won't 'ave to wheel n' deal if he joined us!
But nah, I don't really want him. I hope Mourinho finishes his contract with us. :X
The PL is the best league in a "greater than the sum of its parts" way.
The only thing the Bundesliga is best in is management of clubs (50+1 rule, financial stability, etc). IMO Bayern is not the best team in the world, not even top 3 (Barça, United, Real). They're in the second tier of teams, along with Dortmund, Chelsea, Juve, Milan, City, etc., clearly above Arsenal, Spurs, Liverpool, Napoli, Schalke, Atletico, etc.
Incoming flames...
The only thing the Bundesliga is best in is management of clubs (50+1 rule, financial stability, etc). IMO Bayern is not the best team in the world, not even top 3 (Barça, United, Real). They're in the second tier of teams, along with Dortmund, Chelsea, Juve, Milan, City, etc., clearly above Arsenal, Spurs, Liverpool, Napoli, Schalke, Atletico, etc.
Incoming flames...
Well out of context this table is pretty damning, but:
So out of the 7 losses, two were totally expected, two were a little unlucky on the balance of things, and three were bad results - and that's even allowing for calling City losing in Dortmund a bad result as opposed to expected.
Of the seven draws, two of them would have been wins for Spurs if it wasn't down to poor refereeing, United getting a draw at Madrid is a great result, City drawing with Madrid is good, Chelsea drawing with Juve was okay, and Arsenal drawing in Germany was good. Only City's home draw against Dortmund was disappointing.
Results wise it's poor. But I wouldn't argue that necessarily means the strength of the teams are so far below the rest.
So out of the 7 losses, two were totally expected, two were a little unlucky on the balance of things, and three were bad results - and that's even allowing for calling City losing in Dortmund a bad result as opposed to expected.
Of the seven draws, two of them would have been wins for Spurs if it wasn't down to poor refereeing, United getting a draw at Madrid is a great result, City drawing with Madrid is good, Chelsea drawing with Juve was okay, and Arsenal drawing in Germany was good. Only City's home draw against Dortmund was disappointing.
Results wise it's poor. But I wouldn't argue that necessarily means the strength of the teams are so far below the rest.
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I wish the black kit had gold stripes instead of red so it could resemble mariachi bands.
I would say we're fourth or fifth, depending on how strong you'd say Juventus are right now, but Bayern are second or third as it stands. You can only judge them on this season really, and they're producing when it matters.
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I would say it's Barca, Bayern and Real as the top 3, with United in that second tier
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Any of the top 4 teams in England could legitimately win the CL on a good day. Liverpool and Arsenal, two historically powerful clubs are not even in the top 4 the competition for a CL spot in the PL is enough of an indicator of the league's quality IMO. That clubs like Chelsea, who have a starting XI every bit as good as Bayern or even Real (Torres aside) can have such huge fluctuations in form speaks more to the pressure that the top English clubs face, not inferiority. City, United, Arsenal, Chelsea all start their seasons with the intention of winning the title. Only two teams do that in Germany, Spain and maybe three in Italy.
Anyway this is my take
Yeah, I don't think that helped. Both teams are probably as good as each other really, even accounting for Madrid's domestic form. If both played each other at their best it would be a close one.
And that's what I think you have to judge the teams on. City at their very best - something they haven't shown in Europe yet - are a top ten European side for sure. It's all a bit theoretical because you'd argue that they need to be at their best in the CL for that to stand, but I guess you know where I'm coming from.
Bayern knocked the champions-to-be Real Madrid. They are worse off this season and Utd... well, didn't do much against them except for a couple of individual plays by their best and only stand out player.
United better than Bayern. Not when one conceded 31 and the other 7 in their respective leagues.
Did you actually read my post?
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I don't think there was anyone in this thread being salty after the match was there? Maybe I missed the posts.
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We didnt do much against Madrid? Or Madrid didnt do much against us? Whatever the argument is, saying either team only has one stand out player is a stupid one.
And again you're being relatively reductive. You're ignoring the defensive injuries we've had all season, or the fact we compete with two teams richer than us as opposed to your team being the richest in the league, or that the PL has more competition for the title.
You could argue every one of those points and that would be okay, but just saying blah let in this amount etc is missing the context. Like I say above, I agree that Bayern are second or third right now, but I'm just not as dismissive of other teams/leagues as you can be sometimes.
I don't think there was anyone in this thread being salty after the match was there? Maybe I missed the posts.
Yeah. It was a strange post.
How was the Cuba - Canada game last night? Did Canada play well? :|
I disagree. There's a clear difference between form and quality. Real has quality but is in poor form. Same with City and Chelsea. You can't judge on the back of recent results alone. They have largely the same team but Dortmund pipped them to the title two years running they're on their first *great* year in the last three.
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