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[Kacho]

For context, the post was in response to the video Asmongold posted a week ago. It's about games increasing in price.

Love him, hate him, and anything inbetween.If you're in the game industry and not learning sentiment and player perspectives from Asmongold and his community, you're missing out on sometimes wild, sometimes accurate data.The comments on his videos are almost more educating than his own content.Either way, whether you agree or not, his content is must see for gaming professionals to learn from.You may be offended, you may not...as he doesn't hold back with view points. The crucial key here, is that agree or not, you are educating yourself about a portion of the market (he has millions of gaming followers).His latest video, The Gaming Industry is 100% cooked, is likely to bring up lots of passion from people working in games

Unfortunately, his post did not go over well with some people.

*Update* So much hatred towards me due to this post, I'm honestly shocked, and perhaps naive thinking people would generally give thoughtful debate in their replies and DM's. Those that have I thank you. We don't have to support a persons political / religious beliefs to have curiosity triggered and learning happen.There are a lot of sources for information, I use Asmongold and his followers as one of many to challenge my own bias and beliefs around player sentiment and perspectives, if you don't that's up to you.Yes he is all about rage bate, and he isn't careful with his words.Yet, I believe strongly in curiosity and the willingness to test ones own beliefs. When it comes to player sentiment, Asmongold definitely challenges thinking and conventional data much of the time.This can lead somewhere, or nowhere, yet in the act of getting curious I always learn something.I love to learn.Do me the courtesy of being polite and understanding my perspective, and if you don't understand, at least get curious and ask questions.

The comments are worth a read. Some are positive, others are negative.

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Reddit thread:

 

[I collect VHS tapes]

I think a lot of his base are still trying to come to terms with the fact that he gave Avowed a positive review

so maybe not right now

 

[Cert.in.Death]

One word: cockroaches

 

[KyoZz]

 

[Guilty_AI]

The truly informative part is how he thinks his takes are "wild" when they're really just normal and general sentiments you can see in most parts of the internet. Really shows how much these white collar types live in bubbles.

I think a lot of his base are still trying to come to terms with the fact that he gave Avowed a positive review

so maybe not right now

Rather than positive, he just thought it was ok, at least initial impressions. And that looks like a good assessment tbf, more slop that isn't terrible but isn't great either.

 

[{insert code here}]

Any reasonable person that wants to sell as many units to as many people as possible is going to say yes. Your feelings about the guy and his audience literally do not matter.

 

[I collect VHS tapes]

Rather than positive, he just thought it was "ok", at least initial impressions. And that looks like a good assessment tbf, more slop that isn't terrible but isn't great either.

he mentions throughout it that he is having fun

I didn't even watch the entire stream, but the sections I did watch he is talking about how it being a good time

fwiw I'm talking about that 3 or so hour stream he did

edit: I'm not doing a hypothetical btw, I was literally referring to the backlash he is getting from his fans. I agree that he didn't even overly praise it or anything.

 

[Guilty_AI]

he mentions throughout it that he is having fun

I didn't even watch the entire stream, but the sections I did watch he is talking about how it being a good time

fwiw I'm talking about that 3 or so hour stream he did

He gave it a 7/10. Says he mostly liked exploration, thought combat was fine, considered story/narrative mediocre. Its actually a similar assessment/grade to the first impressions he had of veilguard, though after playing more later he lowered his opinion. I assume it'll be the same with avowed

 

[I collect VHS tapes]

He gave it a 7/10. Says he mostly liked exploration, thought combat was fine, considered story/narrative mediocre.

see my edit. I agree he didn't overly praise it. I was referring to the actual response he is getting. people are upset that he didn't call out the game for being woke and that he enjoyed a DEI game

this shouldn't come as a surprise, we have a thread here where there are pages of people arguing whether the game has too many women

fwiw I agree that it does look like a 7/10-8/10

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

 

[JonSnowball]

This seems like a poorly phrased way to say you should listen to what commentators and consumers have to say, and should not have been written as if it was specific to Asmongold. Probably an executive that finds this to be a foreign concept, and is more attracted to the 'character' of this certain talking head.

 

[Guilty_AI]

see my edit. I agree he didn't overly praise it. I was referring to the actual response he is getting. people are upset that he didn't call out the game for being woke and that he enjoyed a DEI game

His viewers are constantly disagreeing with him over multiple topics, i dont see the issue.

 

[I collect VHS tapes]

His viewers are constantly disagreeing with him over multiple topics, i dont see the issue.

issue with what? I was just pointing out that it is funny that they are saying to listen to Asmon and his audience when they have disagreeing viewpoints, as you yourself acknowledge

 

[Kacho]

This seems like a poorly phrased way to say you should listen to what commentators and consumers have to say, and should not have been written as if it was specific to Asmongold. Probably an executive that finds this to be a foreign concept, and is more attracted to the 'character' of this certain talking head.

I believe Pirate Software said Asmongold represents the everygamer so in that sense the question makes sense. But I agree with what you said.

 

[Guilty_AI]

issue with what? I was just pointing out that it is funny that they are saying to listen to Asmon and his audience when they have disagreeing viewpoints, as you yourself acknowledge

Why is that even worth pointing out though? That's just a normal day on the internet, someone streaming for millions of people will get millions of different viewpoints. Of course there'll be disagreements.

 

[Rocinante618]

Who the fuck cares? EA dude wants to sell you games and a streamer wants to get views by literally milking the woke - anti woke war.

The winner here is Asmongold raking in the money. You can be one too if you stop watching these streamers and just play a game you’re into.

 

[I collect VHS tapes]

Why is that even worth pointing out though? That's just a normal day on the internet, someone streaming for millions of people will get millions of different viewpoints. Of course there'll be disagreements.

because the thread is treating them like an amalgamate? despite them having contradicting views often?

this is a gaming forum, and I'm talking about video games directly related to the thread topic? are you autistic or something? the thread is about lumping them together, per the title and contents of thread, including Reddit thread in OP

I don't know how else to explain this

 

[Jinzo Prime]

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Reddit thread:

I hate how thoroughly these people have infested gaming. This is why Asia is dominating right now.

 

[Sentenza]

One word: cockroaches

One answer:

irrelevant.

 

[I collect VHS tapes]

One answer:

irrelevant.

I haven't seen much of him, but he just legit looks like some random white trash guy who plays video games from what I have watched

he literally button smashes through any dialog of narrative the majority of the time I've seen him play a game, which I find hilarious because people legit rely on him for reviews

 

[Guilty_AI]

because the thread is treating them like an amalgamate? despite them having contradicting views often?

this is a gaming forum, and I'm talking about video games directly related to the thread topic? are you autistic or something? the thread is about lumping them together, per the title and contents of thread, including Reddit thread in OP

I don't know how else to explain this

You can learn from both without lumping them together you know. Even the former employee this topic is about indirectly points this out.

 

[Arsic]

Asmon is a retard. Agreeing with him on anything once in a hundred times doesn’t make him smart or his points good, it’s just the analogy about a broken clock being right twice a day.

Man is a broken depressed, roach of a man. Taking tips from a glorified basement troll means your life must be in a much shittier position.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

His points are usually spot on. Very good common sense answers.

Only problem is that he keeps shamelessly plugging Dr Pepper drinks, and for a gaming guy he actually gets lots of dates wrong (ie. console launch dates he'll be off by years). One time he was talking Saturn or PS1 and thought the release date was 1997.

 

[Sentenza]

I haven't seen much of him, but he just legit looks like some random white trash guy who plays video games from what I have watched

he literally smashes through any dialog of narrative the majority of the time I've seen him play a game, which I find hilarious because people legit rely on him for reviews

That's not the point, that's not the issue.

What matters is that how much one may "like" Asmogold as an individual remains completely irrelevant.
What's relevant is that he and his audience don't reflect some weird extremist fringe but the Average Joes out there buying games.

So in the end YEAH, "paying close attention to what Asmogold and his audience have to say about new releases and announcements" would be a wise move from publishers, rather than constantly attempting to antagonize them.

No one gives a shit about his hygiene, his physical shape or his political leaning. You don't need to appreciate/agree with any of these, because all of these are (once again) IRRELEVANT.

 

[I collect VHS tapes]

No one gives a shit about his hygiene, his physical shape or his political leaning. You don't need to appreciate/agree with any of these, because are ONCE AGAIN IRRELEVANT.

why are you shouting?

 

[Sentenza]

why are you shouting?

I'm not.
Why are you imagining things? Did you forget your medications?

 

[I collect VHS tapes]

I'm not.
Why are you imagining things? Did you forget your medications?

usually when someone types in all caps its implied they are shouting

why are you typing in caps then?

 

[Sentenza]

usually when someone types in all caps its implied they are shouting

why are typing in caps then?

1- It's not 1992 anymore.
2- When it's done on a single isolate word it's called "emphasizing".

 

[I collect VHS tapes]

1- It's not 1992 anymore.
2- When it's done on a single isolate word it's called "emphasizing".

you didn't do it to a single word

you typed this:

No one gives a shit about his hygiene, his physical shape or his political leaning. You don't need to appreciate/agree with any of these, because are ONCE AGAIN IRRELEVANT.

then you edited it after I asked you why you are shouting

why did you edit it?

 

[Gamer_By_Proxy]

Just don’t animate eyebrows based on how his moves.

 

[Sentenza]

why did you edit it?

To BETTER reflect where I wanted to put emphasis on.

I was already editing it even before you first reply, as the timestamp clearly shows.

P.S. I edit almost every single one of my posts multiple times, incidentally.
Sometimes just to improve the wording, sometimes to correct typos. I don't think I need to justify myself with you, so stop being petty and stick to the point.

 

[I collect VHS tapes]

To BETTER reflect where I wanted to put emphasis on.

I was already editing it even before you first reply, as the timestamp clearly shows.

and because typing more than a word in caps is shouting, right? because then it isn't a "single isolate", to quote you

do you understand why I asked you why you were shouting now?

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Asmon is a retard. Agreeing with him on anything once in a hundred times doesn’t make him smart or his points good, it’s just the analogy about a broken clock being right twice a day.

Man is a broken depressed, roach of a man. Taking tips from a glorified basement troll means your life must be in a much shittier position.

at least he didn't betray his friend over a stupid joke.

 

[Kacho]

What's relevant is that he and his audience don't reflect some weird extremist fringe but the Average Joes out there buying games.

Exactly. That's why I thought this would be an interesting discussion. We already know the industry is missing out on average joes with games like Concord and Dragon Age Veilguard. How much longer can they continue to do that?

If you're in the game industry and not learning sentiment and player perspectives from Asmongold and his community, you're missing out on sometimes wild, sometimes accurate data.

I wish he elaborated on this.

 

[Danjin44]

I never watched any of his stuff, I mostly heard of him from GAF, what does he do? Does he only streams games?

 

[Sentenza]

do you understand why I asked you why you were shouting now?

What I understand is that I genuinely don't give a shit but you keep going on on a side tangent of scarse relevance.
I have an entire post history proving that this is how write in every single thread.

Please, stick to the topic.

 

[MayauMiao]

I quite like Asmon's take on games and pop culture way better than the likes of Greg Miller or Adam Sessler who probably would call you a facist the moment you disagree with them.

 

[I collect VHS tapes]

What I understand is that I genuinely don't give a shit but you keep going on on a side tangent of scarse relevance.
I have an entire post history proving that this is how write in every single thread.

Please, stick to the topic.

okay what do you want to talk about

 

[Sentenza]

okay what do you want to talk about

Everything I wrote here, for a start?: https://www.neogaf.com/threads/form...gold-and-his-audience.1680923/#post-270133423

 

[Kacho]

I never watched any of his stuff, I mostly heard of him from GAF, what does he do? Does he only streams games?

He's a Twitch streamer. He posts clips of his streams on YouTube which got him millions of subscribers. He touches on a bit of everything e.g. gaming, politics, drama, etc.

 

[I collect VHS tapes]

Everything I wrote here, for a start?: https://www.neogaf.com/threads/form...gold-and-his-audience.1680923/#post-270133423

that all makes sense, but I would assumed any major gaming company listens to every single significant streamer to some extent

I'm not involved in the industry, so what do I know, but I figured pretty much all of them would have been listening to Asmon in some capacity for quite some time.

companies do dumb stuff despite having good information all the time.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

I never watched any of his stuff, I mostly heard of him from GAF, what does he do? Does he only streams games?

A combo of clips where he gabs about gaming, politics, or any quirky news. His videos are a mix of short ones at 10 min or giant 3 hour streams. He also has another YT channel I never watch. But that site is solely for 2 minute quick clips of random stuff. Many of his videos are him commenting on another video he saw (like a reaction clip) where he gives his opinion on it.

 

[Guilty_AI]

I never watched any of his stuff, I mostly heard of him from GAF, what does he do? Does he only streams games?

Just normal streamer. Plays some of the more popular games (almost always RPGs), comments on trending topics, gives opinion on ramdom stuff, etc. He gets memed often due to being filthy rich yet streaming from a basement and living like a goblin in an old mess of a house.

 

[MrTroubleMaker]

Assburger baldy is correct a lot of the time lol

 

[dwish]

Does average Joe Gamer really sit and follow streams (and discuss them in comments) that much? How we have fallen..

 

[Cert.in.Death]

One answer:

irrelevant.

All yours then.

These Asmongold subversion threads to drive his view farming are exhausting.

 

[Sentenza]

All yours then.

These Asmongold subversion threads to drive his view farming are exhausting.

I have no idea what you are even attempting to say here.
If you think I'm advertising his stream or advising people to watch Asmogold more, you are missing the mark by a fucking mile.

 

[Danjin44]

He's a Twitch streamer. He posts clips of his streams on YouTube which got him millions of subscribers. He touches on a bit of everything e.g. gaming, politics, drama, etc.

This is the reason I don’t know about him much. I don’t really bother with Twitch stuff.

 

[Generic]

For context, the post was in response to the video Asmongold posted a week ago. It's about games increasing in price.

Subscription services exist but they are bad because they "devaluate" games (but if companies want to increase the price of games they are evil and greedy)

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

When chuds speak, people listen. If a chud grunts, devs frantically start debugging. Pronouns are removed at the snap of our fingers.

Respect.