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Fox Mulder
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It's rough, but Redbull has a talent factory and you have a few seasons to cement yourself. He hasn't really done it and will get Verne'd.
Didn't watch quali, but will watch at least the start of the race tomorrow and see how Hamilton/the team/the gods of Mario Kart will fuck it up for him.
Which is fune. Formula E is usually more interesting anyway.
Which is fune. Formula E is usually more interesting anyway.
Psychotext
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It'll only be interesting if the Mercs fuck up the start.
(Or if Vettel torpedoes Verstappen)
(Or if Vettel torpedoes Verstappen)
The start will be interesting. That's about it, I'm afraid.
Very excited about Verstappen. Not a fan at all, but I admire sheer speed/talent, and looks like he's the real deal. As a big Hamilton fan, I'm slightly concerned about this new kid, and I can't say that about any other driver on the grid. My 2cents.
Assuming he or something doesn't fuck it up. No need to congratulate Hamilton on winning since he hasn't managed to yet.
There might just be hope for Verstappen after all.
Reuters - Proud dad Jos steps back as Verstappen speeds forward
I wonder if this was one of Horner's requirements to even consider the promotion.
Reuters - Proud dad Jos steps back as Verstappen speeds forward
I wonder if this was one of Horner's requirements to even consider the promotion.
I can't help but think Jos was a major part of the strife within Toro Rosso.
scorcher59
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Don't worry men! dat Canada "Forza Italia Forza Ferrari" Upgrade
Joking aside, why is Massa still on a slightly competitive F1 Team while Vandoorne is cocking about in japan? Old man gonna old
Great work from VES i feared this weekend he was gonna struggle finding the car, but it was close fight with RIC, where he got around 4 tenths faster than RIC only for him to give him back the favor on Q3 and beating him by a pretty similar margin.
VES got on better with the Red Bull than Kvyat who was soundly beaten by SAI
GrizzleBoy
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This.
Ricci kicked his ass.....
Being half a second slower than a team mate in the same machine is the mark of huge talent and great speed it seems......
Don't know how much of a hype he is in other countries, but over here it's insane.
I've seen 5 of 6 different commercials with Max, and they run all the time. There even is a Max Verstappen day coming up where you can meet him and ride a F1 car.
My four year old was dancing in front of the TV holding up a Max verstappen magazine when the guy was on, and I've NEVER heard him say anything about racing or F1 before.
Max is huge, and the marketing is probably why people are so excited. Me too by the way. Just love seeing a kid from my country do well in F1.
I think Max is a prick, but let's be honest: it's his first time with that car. The boy is good, but Daniel is good too, and way more experienced with that car and track combo. I'm not saying that eventually Max will be ahead of Daniel (I hope not, since Dan is my favorite driver =P), but it's too early to get on conclusions. IF Max had beaten Daniel, maybe we could be saying that Max really is a monster (not that he is not), but today's result was expected.
It's a bit hard to rate the result. Verstappen was faster in all other sessions. But Ricciardo beat him considerably in the end. Was Verstappen's last lap bad, or did Ricciardo just have a perfect lap? Was Ricciardo just not driving on the limit in Q3 and Q2 to avoid making a mistake and not making it into the next session? Didn't pay enough attention to be able to give an answer. In any case, if a difference of 0.4 really represents their actual pace, then Verstappen's result was solid but not particularly spectacular.
Yeah, Max is rapid, didn't expect him to place so high up on the grid today. It's good to see someone new tho.
Judging from his reaction on the radio, he drove the perfect lap. Which is not to say that he shouldn't be ahead of Verstappen at this moment, if a driver comes in on a weeks notice and is completely unfamiliar with the team, the car, the engine (somewhat) it would have been ridiculous had Verstappen placed ahead of him after Ricciardo put in a normal lap without errors.
Now wether Verstappen's result was spectecular, who knows? I don't believe it truely matters at this point, all that matters right now is that Verstappen gets used to his new engineers, the team in general, the car specifically and then see where he ends up. He's starting off pretty well, so that's good, lets see if he doesn't have a slow start like he's been having lately tomorrow and go from there.
Kid is 18, he has quite a bit of time to get where he needs to be, the fact that he didn't seem to experience any trouble performing under pressure is good enough for now.
GrizzleBoy
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Not disagreeing with any of this, just disagreeing with celebrating a lap with a gap that would normally have had people cringing in an "ouch, half a sec slower" type manner.
Kvyat is done. Blaming his team in his first race since being demoted. Not a good look. Maybe he was always that insufferable behind the scenes that made everyone dislike him enough to drop him.
Also the qually result between Max and Ricciardo was to be expected, though it did feel like a few people here got carried away with the Max hype. When he was going faster than Ricciardo in those few sessions people were already calling Max "the new Senna", that he was "destroying" Ricciardo, "RIP Ricciardo".
People need to be more realistic, not underestimate how good Danny Ricciardo is, and also just be happy that Max looks good in the car even if he's not beating his teammate right now.
Also the qually result between Max and Ricciardo was to be expected, though it did feel like a few people here got carried away with the Max hype. When he was going faster than Ricciardo in those few sessions people were already calling Max "the new Senna", that he was "destroying" Ricciardo, "RIP Ricciardo".
People need to be more realistic, not underestimate how good Danny Ricciardo is, and also just be happy that Max looks good in the car even if he's not beating his teammate right now.
nekkid
It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
Inevitable based on the comments by Marchionne and the result.
Myoclonic Jerk
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But that would be stupid. His job is to create the best structure for the team and hire the best people. If he had done that, then there's nothing more they could do with the stupid restrictions the current F1 has.
You can replace the principal every race if you like, but that won't change the facts on the ground.
nekkid
It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
And yet they were beaten in qualifying by a Renault-powered car, bound by the same restrictions, driven by an 18 year old who hadn't stepped into the car until the day prior.
You do realize this is the first race in the RBR car for Max?
Heck, people don't realize this is just one qualifying session. Let's have this discussion after 4-5 races.
Oh and btw people forget that Max's strongest trait is his racing performance. In qualifying I remember him closser to Sainz, some times beaten. In the race it was a very different story. I expect him to shine today.
Myoclonic Jerk
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I fail to see where his fault is. He came when it was a bit too late to fix the fundamental clusterfucks that the previous team have made. Redbull is an established team which had only one weak point which is the engine. Everything else is tight. Ferrari on the other hand was in shambles and every area of the team had to go through changes and overhauling (no pun intended). Those kind of changes take time to show effect
Cheeseman Battitude
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I can't help thinking today's race is going to be a dull one. Only Felipe's drive to 9th place will make it interesting.
brotkasten
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I'm really not expecting a great race.
Myoclonic Jerk
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I have a meeting that starts with the race. This will be the first race I miss in so many years
If Kimi wins it.. we can say we identified what the real problem is
If Kimi wins it.. we can say we identified what the real problem is
marvelharvey
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I usually find Barcelona to be the worst race of the season. Even the tiniest, vaguest shadow of something resembling excitement will be most welcome.
My prediction: somebody will win and it'll be fucking boring.
My prediction: somebody will win and it'll be fucking boring.
nekkid
It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
Well who else's fault is it? It's not like the rules are stopping them from progressing - they're actually losing ground!
Also, lol @ referring to RB as the "established team" compared to Ferrari!
bobnowhere
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World class dumbassery from Gelael.
The idiot being the guy in the front right? I'm not really good at the rules but I think it was unfair last minute change of direction.
Mastah
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Yeah, of course. Leave the fucking space for the other guy and don't change fucking racing line. If you don't, one race weekend ban should be issued.
Myoclonic Jerk
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They're a very successful team. What I meant is that they didn't need any restructuring, so they can focus solely on performance.
Ferrari has so many legacy issues and a change of hands at the top twice in 2 years which by any measure is not a good thing to have.
Who's fault is it? Dominicali whom they insisted on keeping although the team was going backwards since he took the helm.
Something totally messed up their tyre operating window yesterday, because it was known that car performs much better in hotter conditions.
He was covering his ass with blaming others. They lost a lot of experienced engineers during his era.
And now the big boss is attending almost every race and he demands results. No wonder that Arrivabene and team members are feeling even more pressure, which leads into mistakes and failed, rushed upgrades.
He was covering his ass with blaming others. They lost a lot of experienced engineers during his era.
And now the big boss is attending almost every race and he demands results. No wonder that Arrivabene and team members are feeling even more pressure, which leads into mistakes and failed, rushed upgrades.
CaseyTappy
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Well his team and most of the world saw an 18 year old getting right on the pace in a new car pushing for third place and putting pressure on his team mate for the first time forcing the best out of Ricciardo resulting in both cars right behind Mercedes and in front of Ferrari for the first time but what the hell do they know .
The big question mark is Max's starts, they have been less than stellar all season so far.
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