if Turn 10 would only give us an RWD hopper but for some reason they think it wont be popular.... and if i could only race the Nordschleife in non R Class cars in the hopper system i might get interrested with the hopper system again ! There are tons of other suggestions in the official forums which would do the trick aswell but we dont get any of these either ! Matchmaking just gives not enough variety in a racing game, its good as a quick race option but whithout new game types/restrictions/tracksets it gets downright boring !
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Diablohead
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More BS from back when they could change hoppers on the fly, seems like they can't because they do nothing to help balance or what people ask for. It's like the lead online designer is in denial.
If they want to pull their finger out for F4's online stuff they need to spend more then 5 minutes on the P.I
And you know what, there is two ways to fix online to at least get it at a stable balance where more then 1-2 dominant cars rule, and that's to either:
1) Make an ALL drive lobby and another for RWD or at least no AWD's allowed.
2) Make an AWD swap have a bigger P.I penalty, nothing drastic but right now they beat RWD at 99% just because they are dominant, AWD might be uber in real life but then most racing leagues have rules, and it's so broken here an AWD swap should add some P.I, not remove it!
Too many hoppers overall? that's because we have every R class under circuit. If they did have the power to change hoppers without a title update they could easily make it so every day the R class hopper changes between 3-2-1 and repeat, like a different R challenge every day.
Same could be said for F-E class, make it change every 12 hours, dislike waiting a day to race your slow FWD car? make a private game with friends until the next day or something it's why they are there.
Also while on the subject of online racing more needs to be done about shortcuts, slowdown and quicksand is good but there is still multiple areas where you can go wide, cut early or even use a slip road to get an advantage online, it might not give you a clean lap but online I seen people abuse the S bend at Road Atlanta, turning early at the last S bend on Susuka, going wide without a problem at the sharp hairpin at Sebring in an AWD (such bs) and all they have to do is add a few tyres in a pile to stop people cutting them.
*edit* have tournaments been added yet like in F2? those were great, online competition by hotlaps and a CR reward to the final 100, 50 and top 10 etc. Why were they cut???
If they want to pull their finger out for F4's online stuff they need to spend more then 5 minutes on the P.I
And you know what, there is two ways to fix online to at least get it at a stable balance where more then 1-2 dominant cars rule, and that's to either:
1) Make an ALL drive lobby and another for RWD or at least no AWD's allowed.
2) Make an AWD swap have a bigger P.I penalty, nothing drastic but right now they beat RWD at 99% just because they are dominant, AWD might be uber in real life but then most racing leagues have rules, and it's so broken here an AWD swap should add some P.I, not remove it!
Too many hoppers overall? that's because we have every R class under circuit. If they did have the power to change hoppers without a title update they could easily make it so every day the R class hopper changes between 3-2-1 and repeat, like a different R challenge every day.
Same could be said for F-E class, make it change every 12 hours, dislike waiting a day to race your slow FWD car? make a private game with friends until the next day or something it's why they are there.
Also while on the subject of online racing more needs to be done about shortcuts, slowdown and quicksand is good but there is still multiple areas where you can go wide, cut early or even use a slip road to get an advantage online, it might not give you a clean lap but online I seen people abuse the S bend at Road Atlanta, turning early at the last S bend on Susuka, going wide without a problem at the sharp hairpin at Sebring in an AWD (such bs) and all they have to do is add a few tyres in a pile to stop people cutting them.
*edit* have tournaments been added yet like in F2? those were great, online competition by hotlaps and a CR reward to the final 100, 50 and top 10 etc. Why were they cut???
PjotrStroganov
Member
Che and Turn 10 have promised a lot.
Che said that eventually it would be possible to make private races public.
Tournaments will make it into the game eventually.
VIP status can eventually be achieved by participating in/winning sponsored races.
Eventually.... Right.
Also. In the end I'm not interested in who has the best tune when it comes to online racing. I am interested in who is the best driver. Turn 10 should put some hoppers in with cup races. This means a normal track rotation, but with only one type of car and PI per race. This way you can get very close races without anyone having the advantage of a better setup. Besides that, it's just hella fun having a grid full of 8 Abarths competing for first place. Does Turn 10 have someone with both autority and vision to implement this? I doubt it.
Che said that eventually it would be possible to make private races public.
Tournaments will make it into the game eventually.
VIP status can eventually be achieved by participating in/winning sponsored races.
Eventually.... Right.
Also. In the end I'm not interested in who has the best tune when it comes to online racing. I am interested in who is the best driver. Turn 10 should put some hoppers in with cup races. This means a normal track rotation, but with only one type of car and PI per race. This way you can get very close races without anyone having the advantage of a better setup. Besides that, it's just hella fun having a grid full of 8 Abarths competing for first place. Does Turn 10 have someone with both autority and vision to implement this? I doubt it.
Slackbladder
Member
I had a problem de-tuning for stock races. I tried entering the stock Murcielago LP640 and I was told wrong category etc and then gave me the option of changing the parts, which I did. But after that it still wouldn't let me enter. I found out the custom Rims were still on. I took them off manually and bingo, I could enter. But why weren't they removed before?
BrokenSymmetry
Member
PjotrStroganov said:
Yes, this is my problem exactly with Forza 3. The only part of Forza 3 that is aimed at just being/finding the fastest driver are the Time Trials, and they are hidden away in the farthest corner Turn 10 could find. Even NFS Shift has an online mode (Manufacturer's race) where everyone drives exactly the same stock car. This leads to really close and fun races.
I don't think PI is broken. AWD is easier to drive, but I don't think it's faster (in the hands of a good driver). Select cars get the lions share of the tuning attention.
But I do agree there is a problem.
My feeling: The hoppers should restrict downloaded tuning setups if they affect tru-skill (which is basically all of them, afaik).
Ie, if you didn't tune it yourself, you race stock. I would be happy because I enjoy tuning the cars - even though I don't really know what I'm doing, and probably only manage a few 10ths at best. If I put the effort in (and it *is* a lot of effort), I should be rewarded with a higher ranking.
As someone mentioned earlier, downloading a perfected car feels like cheating. Which it is, in a way.
I know turn 10 had great intentions with the storefront - And it works brilliantly for designs, photos, etc. But tuning is different. The point of the storefront is to share and learn. You can see and learn from a great design - you can't from a locked setup.
Finally,
I feel the irony is that downloadable setups have leeched originality and variety from the online game. There is far less variation, as so many are stuck driving the same cars.
I exclusively drive A class online, I've hit level 50 a while ago and have a ~25 ranking. So I feel I've played a lot of races.
I have four main cars, two AWD, two RWD. In all my online racing I've seen two other Gallardo S's (mine is RWD), an occasional Audi RS4's and not a single Saab Turbo-X (which has the most amazing sound - I highly recommend messing with it)
It's sad really, yet I've seen 100s, if not 1,000s of S5s and LP640s.
But I do agree there is a problem.
My feeling: The hoppers should restrict downloaded tuning setups if they affect tru-skill (which is basically all of them, afaik).
Ie, if you didn't tune it yourself, you race stock. I would be happy because I enjoy tuning the cars - even though I don't really know what I'm doing, and probably only manage a few 10ths at best. If I put the effort in (and it *is* a lot of effort), I should be rewarded with a higher ranking.
As someone mentioned earlier, downloading a perfected car feels like cheating. Which it is, in a way.
I know turn 10 had great intentions with the storefront - And it works brilliantly for designs, photos, etc. But tuning is different. The point of the storefront is to share and learn. You can see and learn from a great design - you can't from a locked setup.
Finally,
I feel the irony is that downloadable setups have leeched originality and variety from the online game. There is far less variation, as so many are stuck driving the same cars.
I exclusively drive A class online, I've hit level 50 a while ago and have a ~25 ranking. So I feel I've played a lot of races.
I have four main cars, two AWD, two RWD. In all my online racing I've seen two other Gallardo S's (mine is RWD), an occasional Audi RS4's and not a single Saab Turbo-X (which has the most amazing sound - I highly recommend messing with it)
It's sad really, yet I've seen 100s, if not 1,000s of S5s and LP640s.
Slackbladder
Member
There's a problem getting liveries for the Toyota Yaris. If you search on the Storefront for Designs it gives you two Yaris' to choose from, a Yaris and a Yaris +. But there's only one Yaris to buy. If you get a Yaris + livery you can't add it to the Yaris S in the game. I have no idea why the Yaris + even exists in the Storefront search.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
7 days till DLC car pack 2...
HoTHiTTeR said:What was the last VIP car gifted? I just logged into my console after gettin my copy of F3 back and was clearing out some messages and I think I deleted a Gift car(
Seasons Greetings GT-R
And if you deleted it, you're most likely shit outta luck. Same thing happened to me with the pre-order gift cars, I emailed Turn 10, but they never re-sent them.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
If I remember correctly the 2nd car pack was announced with a date of 12th January in the press release announcing Forza 3 had hit over 1 million sold.MagniHarvald said:
I think they were supposed to be doing more spy shots this week leading up to next Tuesday, but there doesn't seem to be anything on FMnet so far.
UltimateIke
Member
The Yaris + is the version you can pick as your first car in the game. All of the cars at the beginning are rated differently than the normal versions you can buy later (as noted by the +).Slackbladder said:
Well Ive finished my racing seat. I'm not sure where I should post this but i figure someone here might find it useful. Sorry for the crappy picture quality. If anyone wants any information on what I did or some more pictures, let me know.
Its not completely sturdy, but while your driving you don't really notice the movement.
Its not completely sturdy, but while your driving you don't really notice the movement.
antiquegamer
Member
Fanatec email that my replacement pedals set is on the way. Yeah!
I also bought a new car IRL, an Infiniti M35, too bad it's not in this game. : (
I also bought a new car IRL, an Infiniti M35, too bad it's not in this game. : (
Psychotext
Member
On a related note to that pictured setup... I've made a couple of frames for things out of plumbing gear. It really is useful stuff.
ACESandEIGHTS
Member
OK, just tried this game with the Microsoft wheel. Pretty f'ing fun until the pedals pivot during acceleration and I have to scoot around trying to get my feet back on them.
Also utterly confusing the first time I spun out into a wall... ummmm... downshift to reverse, try not to spin out in first, try now try not to lose more than 20 seconds... :lol
As a noob to the online portion of this game, tell me: does Playground change up its options occasionally? Or is it always A-Class racers going against each other?
I was surprised to find that game as dead as it was... 3 or 4 people only playing in the advanced room, and only 10 doing hotlap...
Also utterly confusing the first time I spun out into a wall... ummmm... downshift to reverse, try not to spin out in first, try now try not to lose more than 20 seconds... :lol
As a noob to the online portion of this game, tell me: does Playground change up its options occasionally? Or is it always A-Class racers going against each other?
I was surprised to find that game as dead as it was... 3 or 4 people only playing in the advanced room, and only 10 doing hotlap...
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
Is Forza 3 going to get the Mercedes SLS AMG? You know, the Gran Turismo 5 cover car? Che, any chance of that?
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
I still want to see some classics, like...
Porsche 917
1970 Plymouth Superbird
1971 Plymouth 'Cuda
1970 Chevy Nova SS
1957 Chevy Bel Air
1963 Ferrari 250 GTO MK1
1972 Ford Gran Torino
1995 McLaren F1 GTR non-whale tail version
1995 McLaren F1 street version
And...
The Car of Tomorrow NASCAR bodystyle
Koeingsegg CCX
Pagani Zonda F
Toyota FT-86 Concept
Dammit Che, I'm going to keep nagging you about those!
Porsche 917
1970 Plymouth Superbird
1971 Plymouth 'Cuda
1970 Chevy Nova SS
1957 Chevy Bel Air
1963 Ferrari 250 GTO MK1
1972 Ford Gran Torino
1995 McLaren F1 GTR non-whale tail version
1995 McLaren F1 street version
And...
The Car of Tomorrow NASCAR bodystyle
Koeingsegg CCX
Pagani Zonda F
Toyota FT-86 Concept
Dammit Che, I'm going to keep nagging you about those!
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
h3ro said:
Spaceman Spiff
Member
Gravijah said:
It's true, Forza's Zonda selection is embarrassingly limited as of now-- but at least we're getting the Zonda R next week, so that's a start. Now just throw in the Zonda F, (preferably in Clubsport trim), and maybe the C12-S and we'll have a reasonably complete progression of Zonda awesomeness.
Seriously, Zonda F please. :'(
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
While we await official news for car pack 2, shall we all share our stats?
From the main menu, go to My Profile.
Here are my stats:
From the main menu, go to My Profile.
Here are my stats:
cjelly said:
Nice 60 hours of driving :O. I havent painted since christmas since its been crazy but I think im at 250 hours in the paint editor -_- lol I think im at 40 hours driving and 15 hours of test driving (drift practice mostly). Oh and because I loved leaving my xbox on for extending periods of time cause of the home space I think that menu time is at 400 hours (bad idea i know lol). Ill post a screen later in the day.
New Screenshots from the DLC Pack Coming soon. Via AutoWeek
There is a write up here as well
http://www.autoweek.com/article/20100107/CARNEWS/100109958
There is a write up here as well
http://www.autoweek.com/article/20100107/CARNEWS/100109958
Fortinbras
Member
So are they ever going to fix forzamotorsport.net?
Diablohead
Member
Looks like this time the DLC cars have details under the car, the R35 in the last dlc pack has a completely flat and pure black base like it was ported from forza 2. I know they don't model the under carriage to be 100% real but when you roll a car and see nothing but BLACK it's not nice, also it helps with realism when you can see the parts sticking out like in the images above.
NeoGIF
Member
Jube3 said:New Screenshots from the DLC Pack Coming soon. Via AutoWeek
There is a write up here as well
http://www.autoweek.com/article/20100107/CARNEWS/100109958
Looking forward to this.
Diablohead
Member
Reminds me, not been on my xbox for about 3 weeks and I wonder how many Cr I have from my storefront now, I stuck some nice R35 skins up before I moved the 360.Jube3 said:
I was trying to stream this earlier but im all over the place this morning. But this guy on FM.net is trying to complete the 24 hours of le mans...in 24 hours ;O he is currently on hour 20. Go root him on! Craziness
318 laps down..... :O
http://forums.forzamotorsport.net/forums/1/3463706/ShowThread.aspx
318 laps down..... :O
http://forums.forzamotorsport.net/forums/1/3463706/ShowThread.aspx
speculawyer
Member
Jube3 said:
What does he get for it other than loneliness and stench?
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