the_firewithin
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I love the hound too but he can't get a conciseness in the westeros game. I'm worried now
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Game of Thrones *NO BOOK DISCUSSION* |OT| Season 7 - [Read the OP]
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Nemesis121
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How long before Bran tells Jon of his origin?
It does though?
"an improbable or unexpected device or character that suddenly appears to resolve a situation"
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Deus Ex Machina&page=2
She solved the entire "we need to get revenge on the Freys" thing by killing everyone in the family in just 3 minutes.
The Deus Ex Machina trope is about solving an immediate threat and problem. She might be tying up loose ends, but it's not saving anyone (one of the other big things) nor is it really even a pressing plot point.
A Deus ex Machina would be if Arya was missing for the past 2 years of the show and suddenly merked Cersei as she was about to blow up the Sept of Baelor.
Fixed.
Urban Dictionary is wrong here. A Deus Ex Machina would be if The Lord of Light showed up to save Arya from the faceless men last season.
It's something completely improbable, with zero build-up, resolving an un-resolvable situation.
Arya killing the Freys is the furthest thing from a Deus Ex Machina because it's literally her character arc and has been built up over the entire series.
Tallshortman
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So what's the theory for the guy in the cell who grabbed Sam?
ComputerBlue
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Someone mentioned this several pages back, didn't notice it last night but took a screenshot during my rewatch.
Anyone have any idea why the blade that was used to try and assassinate Bran is in this book?
That was Jorah.
Anyone have any idea why the blade that was used to try and assassinate Bran is in this book?
That was Jorah.
Isn't that just Jorah? It sounded like him and the silhouette looked like his.
It's Jorah Mormont.
Someone mentioned this several pages back, didn't notice it last night but took a screenshot during my rewatch.
Anyone have any idea why the blade that was used to try and assassinate Bran is in this book?
The dagger is made of Valyrian steel AKA Dragonglass. I assume that's why it came up in Sam's research.
ComputerBlue
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I know that, the hilt is made of Dragon bone as well, but there is definitely more to it. Why bother showing it?
Tallshortman
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It's funny that he went off to go find a cure and wound up in solitary.
Could be a chekhov's dagger, or it could also just be an archival of the remaining known Valyrian steel blades. There's not that many left, right?
Potential spoiler I suppose, but...
Isn't Arya carrying it in some pre-season photos?
ComputerBlue
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Good point, guess there's no reason in trying to read into it since there isn't much to go by.
Hmm, good point.
How was it improbable or unexpected? We spent 2 seasons watching her get that power.
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thesoapster
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I thought they were different materials?
Valyrian steel is forged (is that the right term?) dragon glass. So it's different kinda the same.
You might be right, actually. I thought someone on the show had made that connection but it's been a while and I could be totally wrong. Either way, the materials do have killing White Walkers as a commonality, I suppose.
Edit: It's very possible Valyrian steel is forged from dragonglass but I dunno if it's been confirmed at any point?
It is actually unknown how Valyrian Steel is forged.
Also Valyrian Steel is absolutely not the same thing as Dragonglass.
I don't think we know that. The only possible connection is that they both kill the white people.
Ah, I just looked it up, you're right.
mercenar1e
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is this technically a spoiler if its in the first episode?
ComputerBlue
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It has to be somewhat known since ICE was reforged into two swords. Joffrey had one, Widows Wail and Brienne has the other, Oathkeeper.
ComputerBlue
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is this technically a spoiler if its in the first episode?
What are you highlighting here? I'm talking about the image of the dagger that the assassin had that tried to kill bran. You're on a different page.
Confused.
Knowing how to reforge it is different from actually forging it in the first place, the books have legends about how it is forged, but this is the wrong thread to discuss that.
lastplayed
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is this technically a spoiler if its in the first episode?
It's a cure for white walker overpopulation.
Valarian Steel can be reshaped (by like 3 people tops), but there's absolutely no one that knows how to make it from scratch at this point (according to the show).
I expect Sam to find it in some dusty book at some point before getting thrown in jail with Jorah for breaking the rules.
If it is then Sam can cure him since he stole his dad's fancy sword.
mercenar1e
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looks like a cure for Jorah Mormont?
Dubbedinenglish
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If I were to guess it probably requires dragonfire to smelt...ENTER THE GENDRY
I don't know. Did the Targaryens ever make more Valyrian steel after the Doom? They had dragons. It might be more just pure magic stuff that perhaps the Doom fucked up. Edit: or caused the Doom, or something
AuthenticM
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Here's my prediction for the season: Tyrion will die.
I have a suspicion that Uncle Greyjoy will offer him to Cersei as his gift to her, and she will execute him.
Maybe he won't die this way, but he's dying this season. The last time a good character whom people cared about was killed was Oberyn back in season 4 (unless you consider Stanis to be good; he seemed more evil to me). We're due for someone good to leave. It's gonna be Tyrion.
I have a suspicion that Uncle Greyjoy will offer him to Cersei as his gift to her, and she will execute him.
Maybe he won't die this way, but he's dying this season. The last time a good character whom people cared about was killed was Oberyn back in season 4 (unless you consider Stanis to be good; he seemed more evil to me). We're due for someone good to leave. It's gonna be Tyrion.
Merely trying to reference who the guy is, jeez the Danny stans. I hope she gets eaten by her dragons in this season and they crunch her up a few times before finally killing her so we hear her screams. The reactions of her stans would be glorious.
Stop fronting, you know you love us.
So is Bran stupid or something? How does he, as the Three Eyed Raven, not know about this? The old TER knew what that branding meant and what it would bring, tells Bran that the branding removes magical protection, so Bran naturally makes a run for it to the wall?
Stop fronting, you know you love us.
So is Bran stupid or something? How does he, as the Three Eyed Raven, not know about this? The old TER knew what that branding meant and what it would bring, tells Bran that the branding removes magical protection, so Bran naturally makes a run for it to the wall?
Bran is a special boy who did nothing wrong.
Actually, if TER does end up being Bran, then it's possible he never told himself because he knows how everything already played out, and fucking up the Wall is part of what has to happen. Or something.
Time travel is weird.
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Good thing they didn't come for Game of Thrones.
*remembers most houses are now led by a woman*
DAMN YOU WOMENS!
Well if time travel is going to be a thing, this fully deterministic approach is the most palatable. Like how the legend of Artorias is really the legend of the chosen undead
ComputerBlue
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Bran knows about the barrier that protected the cave, knows why it was broken, and knows the same barrier protects the wall because Benjin tells him the dead cannot pass through it.
Bran just didn't piece it together, or as you said knows it doesn't matter.
The Reach, the breadbasket of Westeros, is supporting Dany. Dorne, the region with the most functioning idiots per square kilometer, is also supporting Dany. I think her "million" troops are eating just fine.
Isn't Dany younger than Jon? She was born sometime after the sacking of King's Landing, and Ned found Jon right after it.
perfectchaos007
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This is the final season right? Why stop at Tyrion. Every last Lannister could die in the final episode from a meteor
There is one more season after this, actually.
Nope, season 8 is the last one but it'll only have 6 episodes.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Euron's outfit is making me laugh a second time.
Blank?
That was a direct wink at Gareth Bale.
I'm guessing the surprise death of the season will be Arya. She's getting too high off of her own supply. Killing individual people is great; killing a handful of enemies is a feat of great skill; but she's now wiping out entire male lines of families that are quite large, and she's doing it on her own. She's going to start thinking she's the Stark Terminator and eventually bite off more than she can chew.
ComputerBlue
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