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[HvySky]

Can we not talk about leaks?

Euron's abercrombie outfit (wtf?)

I cannot take this man seriously at all. I know he's going to bullshit his way into gaining Cersei's favor somehow but I'd really rather he just fall on his face in spectacular fashion.

 

[The Artisan]

Can we not talk about leaks?



I cannot take this man seriously at all. I know he's going to bullshit his way into gaining Cersei's favor somehow but I'd really rather he just fall on his face in spectacular fashion.

I think if they gave the character more backstory or mention throughout the show then more people would look forward to his arc. He was kinda abruptly introduced at the end of season 6 and there wasn't any development for his character at all 1-5 seasons prior other than some vague references.

 

[Bunta]

Can we not talk about leaks?



I cannot take this man seriously at all. I know he's going to bullshit his way into gaining Cersei's favor somehow but I'd really rather he just fall on his face in spectacular fashion.

I was hoping they were just going to straight up kill him while in the throne room.

 

[Just_one]

man arya HAS to kill cersey it would be the perfect send of to cersey...

first she kills margery grandmother (which will be the gift euron will bring) after torturing her to find out it was she who killed joffrey and then arya kills her.

i truly believe arya will be the one at the end on the iron throne...

Denarys , Jon and Tyrion is VERY predictable...

oh and btw dont fool yourselfs this time...sansa is the one playing with little finger not the other way around..

 

[demosthenes]

man arya HAS to kill cersey it would be the perfect send of to cersey...

first she kills margery grandmother (which will be the gift euron will bring) after torturing her to find out it was she who killed joffrey and then arya kills her.

i truly believe arya will be the one at the end on the iron throne...

Denarys , Jon and Tyrion is VERY predictable...

oh and btw dont fool yourselfs this time...sansa is the one playing with little finger not the other way around..

Arya sitting the throne makes no sense.

 

[Elandyll]

man arya HAS to kill cersey it would be the perfect send of to cersey...

first she kills margery grandmother (which will be the gift euron will bring) after torturing her to find out it was she who killed joffrey and then arya kills her.

i truly believe arya will be the one at the end on the iron throne...

Denarys , Jon and Tyrion is VERY predictable...

oh and btw dont fool yourselfs this time...sansa is the one playing with little finger not the other way around..

If you really believe that, you haven't been paying attention.

Not only that, but it would be beyond stupid for a "Game" newbie like her to outsmart a master like LF.
The only one on the level would be Varys.

It will take events outside of his control and knowledge to defeat LF at that game.

 

[Ithil]

man arya HAS to kill cersey it would be the perfect send of to cersey...

first she kills margery grandmother (which will be the gift euron will bring) after torturing her to find out it was she who killed joffrey and then arya kills her.

i truly believe arya will be the one at the end on the iron throne...

Denarys , Jon and Tyrion is VERY predictable...

oh and btw dont fool yourselfs this time...sansa is the one playing with little finger not the other way around..

I don't know where you're getting any of this. Arya doesn't even know who Olenna Tyrell is, let alone that she poisoned Joffrey.

 

[Robdraggoo]

I don't believe that anyone Will sit on the ugly chair by the end. All the kingdom's will be split up like they were before argon.

 

[demosthenes]

If you really believe that, you haven't been paying attention.

Not only that, but it would be beyond stupid for a "Game" newbie like her to outsmart a master like LF.
The only one on the level would be Varys.

It will take events outside of his control and knowledge to defeat LF at that game.

What has little finger done recently? He hasn't do e anything smart really in a long time. He also probably doesn't believe in the white walkers and would have no plan for them.

 

[The Artisan]

man arya HAS to kill cersey it would be the perfect send of to cersey...

first she kills margery grandmother (which will be the gift euron will bring) after torturing her to find out it was she who killed joffrey and then arya kills her.

i truly believe arya will be the one at the end on the iron throne...

Denarys , Jon and Tyrion is VERY predictable...

oh and btw dont fool yourselfs this time...sansa is the one playing with little finger not the other way around..

just because it is predictable doesn't mean it'd be a bad ending. this show has had a lot of surprises, twists, and turns, but continuing to add them to the story just for the sake of the story and further shocking the viewer/reader doesn't make the story and ending better.

 

[HvySky]

I think if they gave the character more backstory or mention throughout the show then more people would look forward to his arc. He was kinda abruptly introduced at the end of season 6 and there wasn't any development for his character at all 1-5 seasons prior other than some vague references.

This is essentially my issue with him. The showrunners expect us to take this man seriously despite him showing up so late to the game and doing absolutely nothing to prove himself in the position he holds. Maybe that'll change over the course of this season, it almost feels like they're gearing him up to be another Ramsay. Time will tell, but he hasn't made a great first impression.

 

[Just_one]

Arya sitting the throne makes no sense.

why?

If you really believe that, you haven't been paying attention.

Not only that, but it would be beyond stupid for a "Game" newbie like her to outsmart a master like LF.
The only one on the level would be Varys.

It will take events outside of his control and knowledge to defeat LF at that game.

Go see the conversation sansa has with Jon. She is playing (or at least trying to) with Little Finger , the part where she tells jon she learned a thing or two with cersei...

I don't know where you're getting any of this. Arya doesn't even know who Olenna Tyrell is, let alone that she poisoned Joffrey.

i wasnt talking about Arya in the part about torturing Oleanna , i was talking about cersei.

like this

Euron delivers Oleanna to cersei.
cersei tortours Oleanna and she confesses killing Joffrey
cersei kills Oleanna
Arya then kills Cersey.

 

[Sleeping Lesson]

why?

She doesn't want it.

 

[The Artisan]

This is essentially my issue with him. The showrunners expect us to take this man seriously despite him showing up so late to the game and doing absolutely nothing to prove himself in the position he holds. Maybe that'll change over the course of this season, it almost feels like they're gearing him up to be another Ramsay. Time will tell, but he hasn't made a great first impression.

I think that most certainly will change over the course of this season and while Euron could be another Ramsay, I'm thinking he'll be more like the male Cersei. Ramsay had what, 4 seasons of development? Euron don't got time for that.

 

[Elandyll]

What has little finger done recently? He hasn't do e anything smart really in a long time. He also probably doesn't believe in the white walkers and would have no plan for them.

The WW is the big outside factor, but that benefits Jon in terms of influence, not Sansa.

He has done plenty (showing up in the nick of time, on Sansa's request, with the Vale army to regain her favors), but right now he knows he has to regain her trust by pitting her against her brother.

And judging by this last episode (and her face last season when they started calling Jon King in the North), it might be working.

If she truly thinks she can manipulate him, her downfall will be even more glorious to witness. Specially if said downfall results in her betraying her own family, in spite of saying she was now in control (because obviously playing into his game).

 

[Just_one]

She doesn't want it.

good point

 

[HvySky]

I think that most certainly will change over the course of this season and while Euron could be another Ramsay, I'm thinking he'll be more like the male Cersei. Ramsay had what, 4 seasons of development? Euron don't got time for that.

Pretty much why I hope they don't go that route. We've less than two full seasons left and the last thing we need is another smarmy, sociopathic asshole to cause trouble. Ramsay was invincible until the Battle of the Bastards.

What has little finger done recently? He hasn't do e anything smart really in a long time. He also probably doesn't believe in the white walkers and would have no plan for them.

He did save Jon during the Battle of the Bastards, and he still has the Knights of the Vale which is a pretty damn good card to have in your deck.

 

[The Artisan]

The WW is the big outside factor, but that benefits Jon in terms of influence, not Sansa.

He has done plenty (showing up in the nick of time, on Sansa's request, with the Vale army to regain her favors), but right now he knows he has to regain her trust by pitting her against her brother.

And judging by this last episode (and her face last season when they started calling Jon King in the North), it might be working.

If she truly thinks she can manipulate him, her downfall will be even more glorious to witness. Specially if said downfall results in her betraying her own family, in spite of saying she was now in control (because obviously playing into his game).

Here's the thing - first of all, I don't think Jon will stay at Winterfell after the next episode. He's gonna get 2 ravens probably - one from Dragonstone demanding he bend the knee just like the one he got from King's Landing, and one from the Citadel telling him about Dragonstone. That's a massive incentive, literally, so he's gonna wanna go over there asap so Sansa won't have Jon around to manipulate.

The other thing is, we saw only one scene with Bran and that was at the wall, but I don't think he will stop there. It would make sense for him to want to go home to Winterfell, as dolorous Ed will tell him that his family has reclaimed it. And with Bran there, Sansa is reunited with another brother, which will make it harder for Carcetti to whisper to.

Pretty much why I hope they don't go that route. We've less than two full seasons left and the last thing we need is another smarmy, sociopathic asshole to cause trouble. Ramsay was invincible until the Battle of the Bastards.

As evil as he may be, I think Euron's armada, coupled with experience and psychopathic nature will work in his favor for whatever "gift" he's gonna bring back for Cersei.

He did save Jon during the Battle of the Bastards, and he still has the Knights of the Vale which is a pretty damn good card to have in your deck.

I think Sansa should consider marrying Robin. That would give her power of the Vale over Carcetti, yeah?

 

[jfkgoblue]

While GoT is my favorite show ever, sometimes the dialogue does seem to get a bit too modern, especially when you compare it with season 1.

Considering how they all use modern accents, using a few modern phrases doesn't bother me

 

[HvySky]

As evil as he may be, I think Euron's armada, coupled with experience and psychopathic nature will work in his favor for whatever "gift" he's gonna bring back for Cersei.

Any theories on what this "gift' could end up being? I doubt anything short of Tyrion's head on a pike would really push Cersei to trust Euron and his stupid outfit. Unless he decides to head north and come back with Sansa.

I think Sansa should consider marrying Robin. That would give her power of the Vale over Carcetti, yeah?

At the very least she'd be able to influence Robin herself and block Littlefinger.

 

[Just_one]

Any theories on what this "gift' could end up being? I doubt anything short of Tyrion's head on a pike would really push Cersei to trust Euron and his stupid outfit. Unless he decides to head north and come back with Sansa.



At the very least she'd be able to influence Robin herself and block Littlefinger.

Olleana is my guess. She confesses killing Joffrey and then Cersey kills her

 

[The Artisan]

Any theories on what this "gift' could end up being? I doubt anything short of Tyrion's head on a pike would really push Cersei to trust Euron and his stupid outfit. Unless he decides to head north and come back with Sansa.

before I answer this question, is it okay to discuss trailer material in this thread? because I think the trailer might give away what the "gift" is.

At the very least she'd be able to influence Robin herself and block Littlefinger.

yup. we never even really saw how the loss of his mother, or his father for that matter, ever effected him. and how would he react to learning that carcetti was responsible directly for the death of his mother, and indirectly for his father...?

 

[HvySky]

Olleana is my guess. She confesses killing Joffrey and then Cersey kills her

Good point. I'd forgotten about the Tyrells. Hopefully we see her soon, though less hopefully in that specific context.

before I answer this question, is it okay to discuss trailer material in this thread? because I think the trailer might give away what the "gift" is.

As long as it's spoiler tagged, I think anything we've already seen in trailers or previews should be fine.

 

[Jacob4815]

The leak discussions are banned!

 

[Just_one]

before I answer this question, is it okay to discuss trailer material in this thread? because I think the trailer might give away what the "gift" is.

yup. we never even really saw how the loss of his mother, or his father for that matter, ever effected him. and how would he react to learning that carcetti was responsible directly for the death of his mother, and indirectly for his father...?

what is it?

 

[CloudWolf]

I love how it has a little sail on his chest.

Those little details are hilarious. I also noticed how Daenarys wears a dragon hairpin. A DRAGON HAIRPIN. Who even made that for her?

 

[The Artisan]

As long as it's spoiler tagged, I think anything we've already seen in trailers or previews should be fine.

Okay, so I'll spoiler tag before I write what I think is the gift

The leak discussions are banned!

I'm not talking about the leaks though, I was just talking about the trailers.

what is it?

Scenes from the trailers:

Spoiler

It looks like Euron will be attacking Yara's fleet in a nightly naval battle, and Yara is with the sandsnakes since we see them making out in one frame in the trailer also. Euron will attack the rogue Greyjoy fleet, then capture the sandsnakes as well as Yara, bringing them back to King's Landing as prisoners of war

 

[HvySky]

Scenes from the trailers:

Spoiler

It looks like Euron will be attacking Yara's fleet in a nightly naval battle, and Yara is with the sandsnakes since we see them making out in one frame in the trailer also. Euron will attack the rogue Greyjoy fleet, then capture the sandsnakes as well as Yara, bringing them back to King's Landing as prisoners of war

Good eye. I watched the trailer but must have missed / forgotten this. Really interested now to see how this plays out.

 

[Jacob4815]

I'm not talking about the leaks though, I was just talking about the trailers.
[/SPOILER]

I was not referring to you!

 

[The Artisan]

Good eye. I watched the trailer but must have missed / forgotten this. Really interested now to see how this plays out.

yup. it'd make sense for Euron to go after the rest of his family anyway ("let's go and murder them") - Jaime is the one who mentioned Highgarden to Cersei.

I was not referring to you!

oh okay, sorry

 

[WriterGK]

Any theories on what this "gift' could end up being? I doubt anything short of Tyrion's head on a pike would really push Cersei to trust Euron and his stupid outfit. Unless he decides to head north and come back with Sansa.



At the very least she'd be able to influence Robin herself and block Littlefinger.

You guys do remember right what a spoiled little prick Robin is? Why would Sansa go at that again after Joffrey and Ramsay >.<

 

[HvySky]

You guys do remember right what a spoiled little prick Robin is? Why would Sansa go at that again after Joffrey and Ramsay >.<

I don't necessarily think that will happen, but it would be a way to influence Robin and undercut Littlefinger. Something tells me Jon is going to lay his ass out before any of that has the chance to happen though.

 

[The Artisan]

You guys do remember right what a spoiled little prick Robin is? Why would Sansa go at that again after Joffrey and Ramsay >.<

short answer: to get the power of the vale.

the long answer: before carcetti could help sansa, it still took robin to say the words "she's my cousin...we should help her" which means he probably does care about her. and he also never physically or mentally tortured her the way Joffrey and Ramsay did. Sansa might be good for Robin. Could help him be the man he needs to be.

 

[jfkgoblue]

You guys do remember right what a spoiled little prick Robin is? Why would Sansa go at that again after Joffrey and Ramsay >.<

Because highborn marriages are not about love or attraction, but making political plays, it would not be the same situation as those other two at all.

 

[darkwing]

I must have overlooked something, but how does the WW overcome the ice wall now?

 

[Curufinwe]

This would be a better thread if everyone would follow the very simple instructions posted in the OP. Most of my Ignore List is made up of people who refused to follow the rules from previous GoT threads.

 

[Randy Lanzarote]

For a first episode it wasn't bad, there was always going to be a bit of "Last time on Game of Thrones..." catch-up exposition. I enjoyed The Hound's scenes a lot, I hope he plays a bigger part as we reach the conclusion.

Cersei seems to have gone completely batshit paranoid insane. I wonder if Jaime is going to slowly move into a a position where he will gain the mantle of Queenslayer. :/


Also, what the hell is Euron's accent meant to be??

 

[HvySky]

Also, what the hell is Euron's accent meant to be??

"Idiot douchebag"

 

[Crispy75]

Well the actor's Danish, so.... Danish I guess?

 

[Bits N Pieces]

yup. it'd make sense for Euron to go after the rest of his family anyway ("let's go and murder them") - Jaime is the one who mentioned Highgarden to Cersei.oh okay, sorry

I reckon Euron is going after Tyrion

 

[Robdraggoo]

I must have overlooked something, but how does the WW overcome the ice wall now?

Well according to the episode, they have the ingenious plan of simple going around it. That crafty night king.

 

[Kadayi]

i truly believe arya will be the one at the end on the iron throne..

She has to kill the mountain first, and as the guy appears to be an insanely strong undead automaton who likely would need to be hacked to pieces/obliterated with wildfire before he'd stop, I suspect he could well be her undoing unless she's real patient.

 

[Harrison Bergeron]

He killed that fat kid in S1.

Wasn't that The Hound (Mountain's brother)?

 

[TheJollyCorner]

All the "hyuk hyuk We really are the Last of Us! Anyone else get that!!?!" posts in this thread reminded me of that terrible 'Cake is a Lie' webcomic.
Fucking memes....

 

[The Artisan]

I reckon Euron is going after Tyrion

i posted my theory above on where Euron will go, but if it's Tyrion he's after he's going to have a very hard time getting passed the Dothraki, Unsullied, and 3 dragons (Tyrion is right next to Dany on dragonstone)

 

[Nameless]

I feel like this was them reminding us there are no happy endings in this world. Fully prepared for the series finale ending with the last few heroes dying and Winter & the dead claiming Westoros for good.

 

[jfkgoblue]

I feel like this was them reminding us there are no happy endings in this world. Fully prepared for the series finale ending with the last few heroes dying and Winter & the dead claiming Westoros for good.

It's not gonna be like that at all, they said it would be "bittersweet", but then said Lord of the Rings was "bittersweet", so I expect a reasonably happy ending.

 

[The Artisan]

the 20 second clip of next week's episode has over 3 million views, lol.

people are thirsty for some ice and fire. i know i sure am

 

[darkwing]

Well according to the episode, they have the ingenious plan of simple going around it. That crafty night king.

but why now? why not a hundred years ago or thousand, etc..

 

[jfkgoblue]

but why now? why not a hundred years ago or thousand, etc..

They didn't have enough WW and only started to amass a WW army with Crastor's boys maybe?