I don't know why any of the characters, especially Tyrion, would expect Cersei to do something for anyone but her self. All of them chilling in KL is dumber than Jon and the gang going out for the wight.
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Game of Thrones *NO BOOK DISCUSSION* |OT2| Season 7 - [Read the OP]
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I don't know why any of the characters, especially Tyrion, would expect Cersei to do something for anyone but her self. All of them chilling in KL is dumber than Jon and the gang going out for the wight.
To be fair, they're probably make going in there with a nuke strap to their chest, so if they do anything to Dany or Jon, the dragons will murder all of them. It's mutual assured destruction and I don't think Cersei hates Jon or Dany enough to kill them while killing herself, maybe if it was one of the people who killed her sons and daughter, but she's more level headed when it doesn't involve her children.
SurrenderDorothy
Banned
Winter is the worst
Dany looked dumb in that.
Missandei looked nice tho.
They're both hotter in their winter suits imo.
This show barely kills off main characters. It's The Walking Dead you should be talking about. That's it's whole selling point.
Game of Thrones killed THE main character in season 1 and then his replacement in season 3.
Whatcha talkin' 'bout, Willis?
I thought Dany looked awesome in that white outfit she had at the end of last week's.
Regardless of what it does or does not do, the (anticipated or lack of) death of major characters is certainly what a lot of discussion is about.
It's a symptom of the general conventionalising of the story. Whether people die or not doesn't matter, but the reasons they do or don't matter. Jon doesn't die because he's now the central hero of the story, along with Daenerys, and lots of people aren't as into a traditional fantasy story as they were with what the show was before.
Vincent Alexander
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Yes. I've never thought about clothes in this show....or real life. And moment people talk about clothes, I snore. But the moment I saw Dany in that white, winter clothing I thought "damn, that looks amazing."
Hasphat'sAnts
Member
Jorah being this attractive is a really dumb casting decision in hindsight.
SurrenderDorothy
Banned
I agree.
"Remember when the show killed the main characters."
Like that's what the show was "known for", like we have many main characters left anyway.
Other complaints aside, lack of recent major character deaths is a non-issue imo, I bet some huge fatalities will be saved for Season 8.
Forgot to mention we haven't even finished the season. Don't even know what Cersei might pull.
Dany... dumb...?
Lmao, it looked goofy compared to her other outfits. ¯\_(ツ
_/¯Yeah, the detail looked amazing on that one.
I'd like to think GoT subversion of typical fantasy narrative extends beyond the shock value of killing off major characters.
A story is not just about the audience trying to constantly guess what's going to happen next and the author subverting these expectations either. Unfortunately that's pretty much what all TV show discussions are about however.
Yeah the costuming in the show is great. Gives me some interesting ideas for traditional wear parties...(if only I could find anything resembling the polish and detail the show's clothes have).
I think costume design, especially for a fantastic show or movie, is incredibly important. I'm not sure how often you see some super generic tunics or cloth that looks new and were just slightly painted over to look a bit dirty. I'm always impressed by how beautiful and real the clothes look.
The Artisan
Member
Winter is the worst
Nah winter is the best
Relaxed Muscle
Member
The time for depth and drama is over, or the show will never end and it has to end in just a few episodes.
I watched all 6 chapters this week, and indeed it feels rushed: Jon and Dany relationship, the whole time contrivances (Dany could have used the dragons to go all blitzkrieg, and end the war by destroying Casterly Rock in a single night considering the speed of the dragons), etc...
But the whole package feels entertainly enough and is doing a good job for finally bringing together characters and loose threads.
Can't wait for tomorrow episode.
I have no problem with people not dying.. the main problem this season is those ridiculous last second fake outs they keep doing.
It's been talked to death but Bronn and Jamie surviving a dragon attack and escaping from the lake a mile away with full armour still on.
7 heroes fighting the army of the dead with 6 surviving. A ton on no name faceless red shirts dying were included just to add to the 'drama'.
Jon somehow not drowning or dying from hypothermia, then the save from Benjen which was already done last season.
Also the Tormund and Jorah scenes.
It's been talked to death but Bronn and Jamie surviving a dragon attack and escaping from the lake a mile away with full armour still on.
7 heroes fighting the army of the dead with 6 surviving. A ton on no name faceless red shirts dying were included just to add to the 'drama'.
Jon somehow not drowning or dying from hypothermia, then the save from Benjen which was already done last season.
Also the Tormund and Jorah scenes.
Lack of character deaths isn't inherently a problem. But it becomes a problem when the same characters are put into deadly situations over and over, just to be saved in a contrived manner in the end. Jamie and Bron's river adventure, wights lake chilling for days, and there ain't no time are lame solutions to problems the characters shouldn't be put into if this is their outcome. It's a cheap way to build tension, and a crappy way to keep them alive.
Last episode had a bunch of nobodies travel along with our badass group, guess who bit the dust? Those guys were fodder so the audience would have something to be terrified about, but ultimately those characters weren't even graced with a single line of dialogue. They didn't even have names. Their sole reason to exist was to be killed off. And that's contrived and transparent, and frankly just not very exciting.
You understand me.
Last episode had a bunch of nobodies travel along with our badass group, guess who bit the dust? Those guys were fodder so the audience would have something to be terrified about, but ultimately those characters weren't even graced with a single line of dialogue. They didn't even have names. Their sole reason to exist was to be killed off. And that's contrived and transparent, and frankly just not very exciting.
You understand me.
andythinkpad
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The Dany new outfits, especually the short cape, don't work for me. Only thing I like is the furry battle coat.
So... "Dr-AFFLAC-erys!", then?
Even the new Star Trek movies only killed off one Red Shirt... and they even gave him a name.
LiquidSolid
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Yeah, that's one of the main reasons why the Telltale game was so garbage (in addition to the bad writing, bad graphics and bad framerate). It was as if they didn't understand that GoT isn't TWD. When GoT kills characters off, it isn't done frequently enough that it loses impact and it isn't done just for shock value, there's always a goal that's being worked towards (which we're seeing now).
The Artisan
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Sometimes I wonder what Daenerys would look like if Emilia dyed her hair instead of wearing a wig
I wish she'd just go the trifling distance of wearing eyebrow wigs, for consistency.
Audioboxer
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Finally seen this week's episode. I know, I'm a bad person for being late.
Enjoying this season but I have to say the fast travel on show really is breaking immersion. Not just because they're cutting out needless journey time getting airtime, but because the time they think it takes to do some of the things is unreasonable.
Enjoying this season but I have to say the fast travel on show really is breaking immersion. Not just because they're cutting out needless journey time getting airtime, but because the time they think it takes to do some of the things is unreasonable.
The Artisan
Member
Eyebrow wigs? I didn't even know that was a thing lol
well I remember the costume designer for Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets talking about applying the blonde to Lucius Malfoy's eyebrows but ultimately deciding against it
ComputerBlue
Member
On a similar note, I hate that Rick always dyes his hair in TWD. Post apocalypse and you're worried that someone's gonna judge you for your greys.
That's my fear too but I have good hope that will not be the case. Everyone just being buddies and united against the night king would be so boring
rocketskates
Member
Hell nah. Blonde hair with dark eyebrows is 😍
The Artisan
Member
I didn't even realize he was doing that. Yeah I'd prefer he kept his hair natural there's no need to change anything
I hadn't noticed his bear arms.
Dat Second Amendment right
ComputerBlue
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Sorry, it'l bother you now.
Lmao well done.
I watched up to the beginning of last season.
MoonsaultSlayer
Member
Did you watch up until the "little pig, little pig let me in" scene/ep? Because that's where that show lost me. That perfect silhouette against the gate only for the lighting not even being close to capable of providing that shadow once opened just added to how terribly cartoony the show was becoming on top of all of the character behaviors.
Literally just the first episode. The gore left me a bit sick to my stomach. I wouldn't want them to censor themselves but I pretty much just reached my limit. I've got a big tolerance for hot garbage shows though. I watched every episode of True Blood.
ComputerBlue
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Other than last season which I haven't rewatched yet, I've watched every episode more than once.
molnizzle
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Why would you do that to yourself...
ComputerBlue
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Except the kid in The Never Ending Story actually reversed time/changed the past - so that should be BRAN, riding on the back of O.G. Flammie.
That Damn Kid
Member
Sorry if posted already. Target has a listing for Bethesda: Game of Thrones
Interesting...
https://www.target.com/c/game-of-thrones/bethesda/-/N-559pjZ55t8g
Interesting...
https://www.target.com/c/game-of-thrones/bethesda/-/N-559pjZ55t8g
Oh, that could be pretty good.
CD Projekt RED is the only studio that I think could do the world justice, though.
CountAntonius
Member
Well Skyrim was heavily influenced by the books and I believe they were even approached to make a Song of Fire and Ice game but they decided to make Skyrim instead.
They were already making Skyrim at the time.
I find it hard to believe that they'd have a game coming out that no one knew about and is close enough for release that it'd be listed on retailer websites.