Cro-Magnon
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Sure Olenna is witty enough, but she's still more of a pawn than she's a player.
lol Margaery
lol Margaery
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I'm sure he would have the same look on his face when Queen Cersei (with her Royal Guards) educated him that "Power is Power." lol
Who is she a pawn of?
Her wardrobe for sure.
Cro-Magnon
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Littlefinger himself.
Posting again this cute video - Lena Headey and Pedro Pascal because I am really starting to like both of them as they seem to be in real life. Lena Headey is a bigger star and I hope new doors open for Pedro (till now his career seemed kinda boring 
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).AuthenticM
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She simply helped him killed Joffrey because he was an insufferable little shit and she did not want her granddaughter to marry him. That does not make her a pawn. I don't think she cares that Littlefinger wants to gain territory by marrying into power.
The author was talking through Tyrion when he described Twyin as one of the most brilliant persons and certainly the most powerful man in whole Westeros. Well, he really is.
But I agree that him not playing the "people's game" (ie, trying to get their approval by smoke & mirrors) is a crass mistake. He never managed to mold his family to abide to his owns beliefs either. And more importantly, he has overplayed his cards several times, with 0 contingency plan:
King Robert - He spent all his money on Cercei's marriage. But never ensured power.
If Jofrey had turned a good boy, he would think himself as Baratheon.
What would he have done? Charge for the money lend?
Robert would have dismissed him swiftly. No time for jobbers.
King in the North - He fully dismissed Robb Stark initially. Yet knew that he had
multiple seasoned veterans behind. Tywin would have lost that war.
Red wedding - Allowing the massacre in such way.
As Tyrion said: "The North will never forget that"
- Entrusting the whole North to the Boltons. He really has no control on them.
The Trial - The "evidence" against Tyrion was enough already.
He didn't need to embarrass him with the whore witness thing.
Should have known how his son would react.
Finally, he knows that Tyrion is his only equal in intelligence. He could have used him as concelour, but in the shadows the whole life. But hold on the notion that he "killed" his wife. Which he knows is bollocks.
But I agree that him not playing the "people's game" (ie, trying to get their approval by smoke & mirrors) is a crass mistake. He never managed to mold his family to abide to his owns beliefs either. And more importantly, he has overplayed his cards several times, with 0 contingency plan:
King Robert - He spent all his money on Cercei's marriage. But never ensured power.
If Jofrey had turned a good boy, he would think himself as Baratheon.
What would he have done? Charge for the money lend?
Robert would have dismissed him swiftly. No time for jobbers.
King in the North - He fully dismissed Robb Stark initially. Yet knew that he had
multiple seasoned veterans behind. Tywin would have lost that war.
Red wedding - Allowing the massacre in such way.
As Tyrion said: "The North will never forget that"
- Entrusting the whole North to the Boltons. He really has no control on them.
The Trial - The "evidence" against Tyrion was enough already.
He didn't need to embarrass him with the whore witness thing.
Should have known how his son would react.
Finally, he knows that Tyrion is his only equal in intelligence. He could have used him as concelour, but in the shadows the whole life. But hold on the notion that he "killed" his wife. Which he knows is bollocks.
Cersei?
Nah.
poppabk
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Pretending to have a sadistic streak to placate and seduce Joffrey, offering the image of her brother to try and arouse Renly enough to give her a baby, appearing noble and generous in public in kings landing, that almost kiss instead of outright seduction of tommen.
She is really a chameleon, changing skins too suit her role. She got kings landing to like Joffrey, after they were ready to kill him not much before.
Agree but still not in the league with others. Yet. Adaptive she is, although everyone tries to be adaptive (at least to survive).
Gucci Messiah
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When did she pretend to have a sadistic streak?
Funky Papa
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Somebody called Littlefinger dropping that coocoo lady down the moon door a n00b move. I don't. She was batshit crazy and unpredictable as hell, which meant shit could (and most definitely would) go sideways at any given moment. He did what he had to do. He probably wanted to kill her anyway, but things escalated a bit sooner than he anticipated.
Now THAT KISS was a n00b move.
And how come we aren't talking about Melisandre's titties? Those things are prime.
Now THAT KISS was a n00b move.
And how come we aren't talking about Melisandre's titties? Those things are prime.
She pretended to be into Joffrey's crossbow and weirdness when she was clearly disturbed by him.
MMBosstones86
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not really 'sadistic', but I do recall a crossbow scene with her and Joffrey.
That kiss, and I bet even 'coocoo lady' seeing it in the first place, was a planned move.
I would not include Melisandre there. She has shown weakness and lack of foresight a few times. Margeary is more of a cunning person.
My theory is that Maester Pycelle will be in that list. He has been in all the seasons, playing a seemingly irrelevant character. But he has survived 3 councils, seen and knows a lot, has not clear alliances, and no one really suspect of him for anything.
Yet, Joffrey's assassination clearly required and expert on venoms. And so far, only Oberyn and him match his description. Don't think anyone would be surprised for such revelation.
Gucci Messiah
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GungHo
Single-handedly caused Exxon-Mobil to sue FOX, start World War 3
As crap-sack as World of Thrones is, I don't think they chained up Joesephus, He Who Smelteth That Which Was Dealteth, just to have some meathead to beat him to death with an I-beam.
Ultimadrago
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Agreed, Melisandre's body is notable. There's still something about her face that prevents me from calling her "Hot" though. Maybe too mature for a youngin' like myself.
Her "mature" appearance is part of what makes her attractive to me. She can have my smoke babies anytime she wants.
Hot Coldman
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She has the face of someone who is letting out a continuous discreet fart forever.
TheJollyCorner
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I apologize if I'm being dense, but I'm rewatching Season 3 and I just watched this scene.
She asks Joffrey if he'd like to watch her kill someone with the crossbow.
A few eps later we see poor Ros dead in Joff's room via crossbow.
All this time I just assumed Joffrey did it, but am I supposed to believe he finally got to fulfill his sick fetish by having Marg kill Ros? Am I just over-thinking this?
robotzombie
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you are entirely overthinking it
That is Margaery
TheJollyCorner
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ok.
It just crossed my mind, because based on other scenes throughout the series, Joffrey seems like the type of sick shit that enjoys watching other people do disgusting acts simply due to his command.
For Marg to ask him "would you enjoy watching me, your Grace" (or something along those lines) in reference to killing someone with a crossbow, it just made me think about it on rewatch.
Kabuki Quantum Lover
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Carice Van Houten is stunning. She's also good at making me like a character I should really be hating on.
Amey
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You are late to the party. I find her body refreshing, when compared to other characters in the series. Plus, the rack is real.
Oddly enough, Carice (the actress) looks quite different with her normal hair. And she seems to get a long fine with Stannis and Ser Davos. "We joke, the three of us, about doing a fun spinoff called Melissa, Dave and Stanley, a lighthearted supernatural rom-com.
The mountain is the epitome of the hound's "Armor and a big fucking sword".
Gucci Messiah
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Yeah it sounds like you need to get off the internet. Not sure why speculation is 'beating the system' but whatever.
MMBosstones86
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If this were Game of Racks, she would most likely be on the throne
robotzombie
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He's not saying that speculation is beating the system, he's talking about people who actually know future events through reading the books and pretending they are only making speculation, of which I believe (someone correct me if I'm wrong) actual cases have occurred in this thread.
Only because Ros is dead
Not with those pimple nipples she won't.
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
Hush your Ros mouth.
Gucci Messiah
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Well if you're so paranoid of that then avoid the internet? Seems like a simple solution.
I personally don't care if someone is posting future events under the disguise of a prediction because there's no way of me knowing what they post is true until the show airs and I don't see how you can police that or judge true intent. It also won't 'ruin' the show for me, I think I'll live if I read something online and it actually ends happening. If someone was blantanty leaving spoilers untagged, that would be a different story though.
This is just my opinion and I will probably be in the minority on this.
Complistic
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I'm going to guess it's because so far every time a mystery crops up, eventually the discussion in here just so happens to come up with the correct theory.
Gucci Messiah
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Well, there are a large number of people that participate in this thread, I don't think it's crazy to think that somebody could correctly predict what is going to happen without knowing future events. If there's people in here being jerks and posting spoilers that's messed up but I don't see how you can police this. The best thing to do is avoid the internet entirely if you want to ensure nothing is spoiled. That's all I'm trying to say.
LegendofDragoonLives
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If someone does that and gets caught or someone comes with a drive big spoiler like "Robb Stark dies" like season 3, I really hope they get perma banned. Need that Danny justice on those book readers. >
This and the a cast of kings podcast, seem to be the most spoiler free places in the internet. So far, mods have created a pretty good environment. I get mad when book readers even insinuate what may or may not happen, let along blatantly spoiling it. -_- Had to stop listening to a youtuber because he kept saying this goes here or there.
I wonder if Breanna and Pod will meet Sansa or Arya
or both, please let the Starks meet at like episode 10, I beg of you GRRM
So the Cast of Kings podcast is 100% safe? The only GoT podcast I've heard is when the Grantland guys talk about it on Hollywood Prospectus and they have definitely never read the books.
I don't know why anyone who has read all the books would post in here at all. They have their own thread.
I don't know why anyone who has read all the books would post in here at all. They have their own thread.
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Braag
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Dany really pissed me off in this episode.
She knows exactly how Jorah feels about her and yet she continues to toy with his emotions.
She pretends she's a nice person but she really isn't. I see more and more of the qualities of her brother in her with each passing episode.
She knows exactly how Jorah feels about her and yet she continues to toy with his emotions.
She pretends she's a nice person but she really isn't. I see more and more of the qualities of her brother in her with each passing episode.
Morrigan Stark
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How so? By having the nerve of not having those feelings back?
AuthenticM
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I don't think she knows. I haven't seen anything hinting at her knowing.
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