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Game of Thrones *NO BOOK SPOILERS* |OT| Season 4 - Sundays on HBO [Read the OP]
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Matt_
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No. No assumptions. I want to see suffering.
Maybe Oberyn's lady friends will sneak in and kill him while he recovers, either way he needs to die properly on screen because otherwise him suddenly coming back only to find the strength to kill Oberyn to then collapse and die is comical.
As silly as it sounds this pic is a reminder that it's only a show, because this episode hurt =(IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW
TheContact
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I still think he's alive just because we never saw him die on screen, and anyone who doesn't die on screen is most likely not dead
What an amazing ending.
It was kind of obvious when he kept insisting on the confession after having it won but still, great execution. So good.
I was kind of worried they wouldn't show the fight since there wasn't a lot of time left but they surely delivered. Loved it.
Rest of the episode was a slow burner but there were tons of character development so overall really enjoyed it.
It was kind of obvious when he kept insisting on the confession after having it won but still, great execution. So good.
I was kind of worried they wouldn't show the fight since there wasn't a lot of time left but they surely delivered. Loved it.
Rest of the episode was a slow burner but there were tons of character development so overall really enjoyed it.
Phoenician_Viking
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Yeah like Ned and Rob Stark oh wait.....
Neoriceisgood
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Today's episode finally made me switch sides to team Arya.
All men must die, swiftly.
All men must die, swiftly.
Yeah, a modern ER could probably fix his insides. But there's no way he should be able to survive that type of injury.
I would love to see cersei go out like that.
ElectricThunder
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It was a good ep this morning, but man am I sick of the tired trope of "standing on the side of somebody on the ground"---for once can't you just peer down at some fool from the head side?!
OK the moment we start comparing Daenerys to Joffrey we have gone too far.
I think the problem with most people is that when they start liking a character, they expect him to be perfect and always behave the way they want him to.
I think the problem with most people is that when they start liking a character, they expect him to be perfect and always behave the way they want him to.
Agree. And I blame Martin for that, not Oberyn. Sometimes I wonder if anyone ever did something so stupid in real life yet we have seen this a thousand times, I'm really tired of it and will always call plot holes such events.
I had to repeat that quote a few times get where its from.
Joe Prodigy
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Jaime's face has been great this season. His expressions when shit is about to /already going down. You can read him like a book.
Yup. Cersei and the Bolton's are on my shit list. I would love to see them both offed in satisfying ways. The only folks I want to see lots more of at the moment are Tyrion, Arya, and Pod/Brienne - the rest of the lot can go eat a pile of crap.
make likeable character --> kill likeable character
wow wow so clever
I think george rr martin might actually be retarded
game of thrones could be so good, but instead it just goes for cheap shocks
this is like the western equivalent of anime fan service
I'll enjoy game of thrones for what it is, but I don't know why people say it's good
wow wow so clever
I think george rr martin might actually be retarded
game of thrones could be so good, but instead it just goes for cheap shocks
this is like the western equivalent of anime fan service
I'll enjoy game of thrones for what it is, but I don't know why people say it's good
Joe Prodigy
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Maybe Tyrion could argue that it was a draw?
jonnyp
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Completely agree. That was incredibly unconvincing and silly.
My favorite Jaime reaction was when Tywin said "Done" so quickly after Jaime offered to go to Casterly Rock.
Lots of likeable characters are still alive, lots of unlikeable characters are dead.
I'm upset at work and short on sleep.
As a pure show watcher, really thought Oberyn had plot armor for a while. It seemed the show was now short on do-gooding alphas and he was their necessary replacement, except he wasn't fighting a war or overly honorable, just the wandering badass we needed to survive in this awful universe. He made for some feels but ultimately didn't accomplish anything for his time with us (maybe in the aftermath).
Also wasn't getting why The Mountain was being talked up as he's rarely been on on-screen and our prolonged exposure to him was when he lost a joust. That he's treated as a monster heel anyway must mean he's a bigger presence in the book, which I try not to build expectations off of.
As a pure show watcher, really thought Oberyn had plot armor for a while. It seemed the show was now short on do-gooding alphas and he was their necessary replacement, except he wasn't fighting a war or overly honorable, just the wandering badass we needed to survive in this awful universe. He made for some feels but ultimately didn't accomplish anything for his time with us (maybe in the aftermath).
Also wasn't getting why The Mountain was being talked up as he's rarely been on on-screen and our prolonged exposure to him was when he lost a joust. That he's treated as a monster heel anyway must mean he's a bigger presence in the book, which I try not to build expectations off of.
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I think that's it
I guess it's an okay setup for his brother to be the real bad ass
If there's one thing you count on in human history, it's that someone, somewhere, got themselves killed from a stupid fuck up.
Neoriceisgood
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To be fair, if a good character in GOT doesn't act like a complete idiot; how are they supposed to die?
The answer is: Magical shadow babies.
A pretty classic case of monologuing leading to a death. I dunno, I don't think it really fits. Oberyn seemed much smarter than that. Just finish the fucker and be done with it. It's obvious he didn't give a shit about Tyrion, and I guess why would he.
The episode was really slow to begin with as well. You could tell the fight would be short just because of how long it took to get there. I'm not really understanding Sansa's motivations either. She seems to have turned into a completely different person. Is she not aware that Littlefinger had a key role in her fathers death?
The episode was really slow to begin with as well. You could tell the fight would be short just because of how long it took to get there. I'm not really understanding Sansa's motivations either. She seems to have turned into a completely different person. Is she not aware that Littlefinger had a key role in her fathers death?
Plz, likeable people shouldnt die because thats how things work in reality. Also they shouldnt make mistakes or succumb to emotion.
Pai Pai Master
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Maybe next season some of his eight daughters will show up.
So Tyrion isn't likable?
So Tyrion isn't likable?
perfect gif.Oberyn vs. Mountain summary:
damn, that fight. Game of Thrones delivers.
Can't believe no one yet has called you out on this silliness. They were slaves. Ergo the ones doing all the hard labor. THey are more than capable of living off the land. Fighting off aggressors is an entirely different matter but then people who aren't slaves aren't any better when you think about it.
Your wrong with almost everything else (she is myopic) but this one was just most flagrant.
Am I the only one who was kinda disappointed with the fight? It was so anticlimactic, rushed and the fighting felt so dull.
I know from the book readers that it was really epic and one of the passages in the book but in the show it was just far, far from epic.
I know from the book readers that it was really epic and one of the passages in the book but in the show it was just far, far from epic.
He wasnt monologuing or even there for Tyrion's sake. Tyrion was just a platform to air some very deep grievances.
actually yeah tyrion is the most likeable, I don't know how I forgot him
I get how it sets things up, but I don't like the way it was delivered
the reason this was so shocking was because it didn't seem to fit oberyn's character
Neoriceisgood
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Stupid ball tho.
And one more thing, he didn't have to finish him off, he could just cut his hands, giving him a torturing death, while making him confess.
I know want a combat myself with GRRM to make him confess he screwed badly in his writing.
I know want a combat myself with GRRM to make him confess he screwed badly in his writing.
Yay! We have two likable characters alive now! Oh wait, one of them was just sentenced to death.
She's tired of being the eternal victim and started to think 2 steps ahead? She got burned last time she played fair and her father got killed. Maybe she understands now she needs to play the game too.
I fully expect her to put a dagger through Littlefinger's back in the future when no one else is able to keep up with his schemes.
Kai Dracon
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The thing about Oberyn is that while he was clearly smart and a great player, he was full of himself as an avenging angel. His anger and desire to fall upon the Lannisters like a hawk boiled over once he was on the stage and slightly intoxicated. It was his (literally) fatal character flaw. People who survive the game here are those that keep their cards close to their vest and calculate. And remain ice cold while seeking justice or simply revenge.
Yep. This story is about the long game. Characters who slot into traditional, possibly cliche plot arcs seem to get blown away without warning. But there are also consequences for that, which is what people need to see. The fallout from the Red Wedding began with the Purple Wedding. The surviving Stark children are still in motion all because of Ned's death. And gradually their arcs are making stuff happen such as what's going on with Sansa.
Yep. This story is about the long game. Characters who slot into traditional, possibly cliche plot arcs seem to get blown away without warning. But there are also consequences for that, which is what people need to see. The fallout from the Red Wedding began with the Purple Wedding. The surviving Stark children are still in motion all because of Ned's death. And gradually their arcs are making stuff happen such as what's going on with Sansa.
PapaJustify
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Please hold me, GAF. I am beginning to lose my shit over this f*cking show 
Unless GRRM wrote or directed the episode I'm not sure how you could say that.
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