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Game of Thrones *NO BOOK SPOILERS* |OT| Season 4 - Sundays on HBO [Read the OP]
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As others have said, Spartacus is up there on some of the deaths, but then again, there's just so much violence in that show and it's so stylized that it doesn't have quite the same impact.
I'd say that Hannibal's up there on the gore, although most of it is insanely gruesome crime scenes. There was one scene this season that made me really cringe, though (early S2 Hannibal spoilers):
A guy wakes up after having been sewn to a bunch of corpses. He eventually pulls himself free, with chunks of his flesh getting torn off and left behind where he's been attached to the dead bodies.
So yeah, don't watch Hannibal while eating if you've got a weak stomach. I'm constantly amazed that NBC can get away with that level of grotesque imagery.
Yep he really is hosed. I don't expect that he can rejoin the Horde wherever they are either at this point since he chose Dany over them. Lost his home and got exiled, had a chance to get pardoned but changed his mind, then got outed and exiled again. Fuuuuuuuuck... that dude is so screwed.
I can't lie I worry about that too. But I suppose they had to do something to add character to at least one of the unsullied. I just hope they don't turn him into some love fool. Would be such a waste of a very different non cliche character.
Even with all it's grotesquery Hannibal is far more aware of the audience, emotionally. Even when terrible things do happen to likable characters.
PfantzyPantz
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I'm really happy I found this thread for that reason. I've been spoiled multiple times because I just glanced at the comments in vids and the like.
But now, I shall not be spoiled again!
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Deleted member 1235
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best fight scene in the show so far?
I'd say that this one thing that the show did better than the book. Don't remember the red viper being so likeable or in depth in the book at all. That speech he gave tyrion before saying he'd fight for him, god damn. and his taunts to the mountain. So great.
Tyrions 'awww shit' face was pretty amazing as well. fucking tywin, what a d'bag. he almost cracked up laughing when the mountain grabbed the viper.
I'd say that this one thing that the show did better than the book. Don't remember the red viper being so likeable or in depth in the book at all. That speech he gave tyrion before saying he'd fight for him, god damn. and his taunts to the mountain. So great.
Tyrions 'awww shit' face was pretty amazing as well. fucking tywin, what a d'bag. he almost cracked up laughing when the mountain grabbed the viper.
a Master Ninja
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Just watched the episode; what can I say that the previous 2000 posts didn't already say?
Regardless, somehow I can imagine Jaime dying rather than Tyrion. I also don't want the Hound to die from the very obvious infection he has.
Regardless, somehow I can imagine Jaime dying rather than Tyrion. I also don't want the Hound to die from the very obvious infection he has.
Liamario
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You know, when the girl walked off saying she is done watching this show, I couldn't blame her. I had a similar reaction half an hour after watching the episode. The show is such an emotional roller coaster and I don't know if I'm mentally up to the task. You can't help get attached, even though you know you shouldn't. I've seen gore like that before, but for some reason it was even more affecting last night.
You could say you were happy to see Oberyn's head burst
I don't think anyone wanted to see that
Liamario
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I was just shouting at the tv, 'finish him'. But he wouldn't, and didn't. The moral of the story- it's not over till it's over.
The Mountain(unarmed) vs a full grown Silverback Mountain Gorilla in his prime!
GO!!
Khal Drogo vs. The Mountain - now that's a fight I'd love to see.
UnObtainium17
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My reaction was closer to Tyrions/Jamie tho.. Everything happened so fast I was just left speechless while staring at the tv. I was cursing when the credits started to roll.
Braag
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Khal Drogo > everything (except infections)
Just want to say I also agree with the 3 above posts. We are 4 seasons deep now. I have to hope that at some point the show/books stop using the same old forumla. I haven't completely tired of it yet, but I soon will. It can pull this shit off because no other show/book does it to this degree, but that doesn't mean it can just ride that wave forever.
At some point the goddamn formula needs to change a bit. Having every Stark always stupidly pass on the winning option, and having the most vile characters always draw the perfect hand is going to eventually get stale.
Don't wear it out GRR.
Well, there you go.
The Silver
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Drogo gets his weapon stuck in The Mountain's armor and then gets his head bursted.
Chie Satonaka
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...FUCK
You're right. I didn't even realize it until you said it.
I just watched the fight again on youtube. Goddamnit, Oberyn.
Goddamnit.
It was a good fight, though. I wonder what Sandor would think knowing his big brother got--- Eh. I guess it doesn't matter. He won in the end.
"Bad" guys get theirs, too. We just take most of the good guys dying a lot more personally. I don't think there's a huge imbalance, it just affects as a lot more when a dude like Oberyn goes down. Let's not forget The Mountain is dead now, too.
The characters somewhere in the middle of the morality scale are the ones that tend to survive, I find.
The characters somewhere in the middle of the morality scale are the ones that tend to survive, I find.
The last 1500 posts in this thread have been amazing. Almost as good as the episode that preceded them. It was as predictable as can be I thought, and was better for it. I would have been more surprised if the fight ended any other way.
Seeing Sansa begin to 'play the game' was excellent, too, her very subtle facial expressions in between the crocodile tears amazing. I keep waiting for Theon to turn/return, I'm curious to know where that storyline ends up.
Good stuff, GoT. Roll on next week!
Seeing Sansa begin to 'play the game' was excellent, too, her very subtle facial expressions in between the crocodile tears amazing. I keep waiting for Theon to turn/return, I'm curious to know where that storyline ends up.
Good stuff, GoT. Roll on next week!
Tommie Hu$tle
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Here's my thing, Selmy was Kingsguard and I think in the meeting where Robert ordered the hit on Daenarys. Ned was arguing against it. Selmy knew that Jonah was a spy for Robert way back. So isn't he just as guilty?
MisterGrey3000
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Throw in Jaime in his prime(hand intact), and we've got a fight!
Shadowlink
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That ending was insane! That fight was brutal. Not sure how I'll react in the next two episodes.
Ignatz Mouse
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You've got Tyrion on both sides for your examples. He succeeds in one instance, loses in another.
Chie Satonaka
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I feel like Jamie would get muscled and rolled over by The Mountain. Drogo is an agile fighter like Oberyn, but I'm not sure he'd have the same level of skill or the right weapon to deal with The Mountain. Same with Bronn. I figured Bronn would be a good match for him at first, but Oberyn's range really helped him out.
YesNOnoNOYes
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My reaction was closer to Tyrions/Jamie tho.. Everything happened so fast I was just left speechless while staring at the tv. I was cursing when the credits started to roll.
NOOOOOOOOOOOO ;__;
Ellariaaaaa~ omg. Her distress ;__;
Tommie Hu$tle
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Jamie (In his prime) and Bronn would both be rolled by the Mountain. Jamie would have the skill but not endurance to take the Mountian as he would have probably suited up. Bronn is a standard dirty fighter and would only fight when and where he has an advantage. On the battlefield Bronn would use the environment and every trick to his advantage. In a one on one even playing field, he wouldn't have stood a chance.
Joe T.
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He wasn't there if I recall correctly. Robert didn't trust him, so Selmy didn't take part in the small council meetings.
MisterGrey3000
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That poor poor lady, I really hope this isn't the last we'll see of her.
It would be nice if she got revenge in some way.
It'd be cool if they led her to where the Mountain was bedridden and let her do what she wanted with him. >_<
I watched the episode last night and damn. I was rooting for Oberyn so hard and he had to fuck it up, just kill the damn fool. I take it The Mountain is dead as well right?
Wondering what happens next, are they going to show Mance Rayder's army vs. The Night's Watch this season or will that be a cliffhanger, is Jorah going to make it back to King's Lading and spill the beans on Dany? This season still has so many things going on.
Wondering what happens next, are they going to show Mance Rayder's army vs. The Night's Watch this season or will that be a cliffhanger, is Jorah going to make it back to King's Lading and spill the beans on Dany? This season still has so many things going on.
Does that mean it was a draw?
First to die, I assume?
Drogo had basically the quickness of the viper, minus the acrobatics, with three times the size and strength and none of the revenge stuff clouding his judgement.
Plus he had obviously proven himself the most badass warrior on a continent. I'd probably put my money on drogo against a much slower and one dimensional opponent.
YesNOnoNOYes
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Some other posters in this thread said so.
But I refuse to believe Tyrion has no more chance at surviving. So. Im hanging on the sliver of hope that maybe they'd be like. Well, there no winners leaving the arena, so.
But that hope is dying by the minute that I post at this thread because you guys are so stronk with the UNHOPE.
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I still refuse to believe Tyrion's dying though! Nooo.
The Silver
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that shit means nothing when you use a shitty weapon that can't get through armor
the Bloodrider(meaning he was in top 5 of the entire hoard) that fought Jorah danced around and was fast as hell too, once his Arakh got stuck he was finished,
Overall I thought it was a pretty mediocre episode with just a few bright spots.
Couple of places just felt odd. Arya's laugh was so forced and overacted. Dany dismissing Jorah felt weird the way it was shot. Unsullied romance out of place and awkward. And the Mountain killing Oby felt like he was playing possum rather than being the last defiant act of a mortally wounded warrior on deaths door it was supposed to be.
Sansa was great. And wow as her coming out as a woman, no longer a submissive girl. Have never found her attractive until she showed up in that dress dripping with confidence.
For those speculating on whether Tyrion is going to get out on the basis of a "draw", you already have your answer. Tywin saw the Mountain die and called it as "not a win" for Tyrion. The trial was enough of a farce that anything other than a decisive win for Tyrion would be called against him.
I hold hope that escape is an option, though I'm not sure I can think of a supporting character that will lay it all on the line for him. Bron? Jamie? Tyrion has consistently been one of the most interesting and best acted characters so I hope he pulls through. But if he survives it won't be due to a legal challenge on a technicality.
Couple of places just felt odd. Arya's laugh was so forced and overacted. Dany dismissing Jorah felt weird the way it was shot. Unsullied romance out of place and awkward. And the Mountain killing Oby felt like he was playing possum rather than being the last defiant act of a mortally wounded warrior on deaths door it was supposed to be.
Sansa was great. And wow as her coming out as a woman, no longer a submissive girl. Have never found her attractive until she showed up in that dress dripping with confidence.
For those speculating on whether Tyrion is going to get out on the basis of a "draw", you already have your answer. Tywin saw the Mountain die and called it as "not a win" for Tyrion. The trial was enough of a farce that anything other than a decisive win for Tyrion would be called against him.
I hold hope that escape is an option, though I'm not sure I can think of a supporting character that will lay it all on the line for him. Bron? Jamie? Tyrion has consistently been one of the most interesting and best acted characters so I hope he pulls through. But if he survives it won't be due to a legal challenge on a technicality.
diggmcbadass
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Episode will probably open with Tyrion getting beheaded and Martin having a cameo pointing at the screen laughing.
Honestly though, I can't really see where his storyline would go after getting off the hook. He already declared that he wants everyone in Kings Landing dead, and he has been betrayed by everyone who ever remotely was on his side. Also, he spend like the last five hundred episodes in his cell having good bye monologues to everyone he ever met.
WesternHeretic
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He's gonna get saved by a dragon and become the dragon rider for danys army. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
Christina Mackenzie
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Bolton: Sure thing. Right after we celebrate our victory with a flaying.
He betrayed Robb Stark. I bet he wouldn't think twice about crossing Stannis. Also I don't think their problems with the Greyjoys are over just yet.
diggmcbadass
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I was actually about to edit in that he was fleeing across the narrow sea to replace Jorah Fedora.
Your way is better.
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