Arya is safe, she's a main character, and you know Tyrion will probably survive. Robb was barely even a character.
He was as big a character as Arya till he got killed.
Arya is safe, she's a main character, and you know Tyrion will probably survive. Robb was barely even a character.
Prep time Tywin > everyoneThe Lannisters win again.
What a fucking surprise.
Prep time Tywin > everyone
Just a note, though: Tywin didn't get what he wanted. He wanted Jaime to carry on the Lannister name and Tyrion to go away. Sure he might have sentenced Tyrion to death, but now what? Where does the Lannister name go? And that's not counting the fact that he's lost Dorne pretty much because of all this and his name has been further sullied by Oberyn's accusations and Clegane's admittance.
There was a brief moment where Tywin could have had it all and it looked like he would, but it's done for him. He's lost the game. On top of those things, Sansa's just revealed herself and it looks like the Vale isn't going to be in the fold with the Lannisters anymore, too.
I would imagine and hope that oby's death brings his brother to the fore? That's could be interesting.
Whatever Dany dreams comes true.I don't think the plot armor really goes by main character. It just goes my character arc. I know Danny's probably safe for a long long time because there'd be no point at all in building that all up if she was just going to die. I think from a writing perspective she's kind of endgame material. She'll be around a while. Realistically there's no fucking way she's dying until she interacts with someone from Westeros.
Arya's arc needs an ending, and she's being built up as a killer of some sort. So she needs to last until she kills someone important in the story, I would think.
Jon I think is being built up to be a lord commander sort of guy. I don't believe he'll die until that happens.
Tyrion's arc, though, I think is nearly done, so he could go either way. His arc was clearly being the guy that fucking saved king's landing and then no one gives a shit. He's accomplished so much that affects the story, so realistically he could die.
Basically Danny is the most plot armored at this point, in my opinion.
Realistically I think the entire arc of the series is that you get the chaos of people trying to become king/queen in westerns for a while, and basically annihilating each other. Then Danny comes over and maybe she sits on the throne for a short bit, but the real trouble comes from the north. Then Danny and whoever the hell is left standing have to unite to take on that stuff. It would make most sense I think if Jon was still around, because then you get that big origin story there, too.
Just a note, though: Tywin didn't get what he wanted. He wanted Jaime to carry on the Lannister name and Tyrion to go away. Sure he might have sentenced Tyrion to death, but now what? Where does the Lannister name go? And that's not counting the fact that he's lost Dorne pretty much because of all this and his name has been further sullied by Oberyn's accusations and Clegane's admittance.
There was a brief moment where Tywin could have had it all and it looked like he would, but it's done for him. He's lost the game. On top of those things, Sansa's just revealed herself and it looks like the Vale isn't going to be in the fold with the Lannisters anymore, too.
Whatever Dany dreams comes true.
We saw in both Dany and Bran dreams that the Red Keep is destroyed. I don't Dany will sit on the Iron Throne. I think her dragons will destroy Kings Landing and it will left abandoned.
I agree, I don't see how the Lannisters can stay in control for long. Jamie isn't interested in Tywin's plans for him, and Tywin has lost his leverage. They've at this point pissed off Dorne (where Cersei's daughter is), they've inadvertently put the guy that brought about the murder of their king in an even more powerful position. They have no money, and Stannis has the backing of the Iron bank. They have the Boltons to the north and Daenerys to the east (who, admittedly, isn't an imminent threat but they have to keep her in mind). Its been pretty much all downhill for them since the Red Wedding.
When she was in the House of the Undying.I don't remember Dany dreaming this.
That sucks. Thanks for the heads up.There is a very popular Youtube "reaction" video doing the rounds. This is the name:
"SPOILER! Game Of Thrones 4x08 The Red Viper Vs The Mountain Reactions Compilation"
At around half way through, I was spoiled on something that has yet to happen. It's fairly minor, but just a heads up.
Just to reiterate, unrelated to Viper/Mountain. Just avoid it.
There is a very popular Youtube "reaction" video doing the rounds. This is the name:
"SPOILER! Game Of Thrones 4x08 The Red Viper Vs The Mountain Reactions Compilation"
At around half way through, I was spoiled on something that has yet to happen. It's fairly minor, but just a heads up.
Just to reiterate, unrelated to Viper/Mountain. Just avoid it.
He was surprised to see her turn from telling the truth to lying for him. Nothing big there.Another thing which was barely touched upon. What exactly was Littlefinger's move when the threw Lysa into the Moon Door? He seemed surprised that Sansa lied to defend him yet he threw her aunt to her death and sort of expected everything to turn out okay? He's such a calculating character, I can't believe he assumed his word would be taken for granted or that somehow things would just turn out okay in the end.
I would imagine and hope that oby's death brings his brother to the fore? That's could be interesting.
Jon I think is being built up to be a lord commander sort of guy. I don't believe he'll die until that happens.
Basically Danny is the most plot armored at this point, in my opinion.
What was the point of Oberyn? Seems like he was the thanksgiving turkey being fattened up just for this last episode.
What was the point of Oberyn? Seems like he was the thanksgiving turkey being fattened up just for this last episode.
What was the point of Oberyn? Seems like he was the thanksgiving turkey being fattened up just for this last episode.
Most genuinly lovable characters are dead or smart enough to stay out of harm's way,
so we needed a new lovable character to get brutally murdered in the worst way imaginable.
I can't really imagine them killing Tyrion, then again, I also couldn't imagine that they'd kill Rob just like that.
btw. did we ever learn what happened to the groom at the red wedding? I think he left the room with his new bride before the massacre.
Could have been worse. I'm pretty sure the guy the Boltons flayed was alive during the process.
I can't really imagine them killing Tyrion, then again, I also couldn't imagine that they'd kill Rob just like that.
btw. did we ever learn what happened to the groom at the red wedding? I think he left the room with his new bride before the massacre.
Hahah, that rules! She's a keeperMy wife is starting to worry me. She said that if Arya gets killed she's going to hunt down GRRM and go Misery on his ass. Ha!
I think I read where someone said he is locked up as a prisoner at Freys earlier in the thread.
Oh boy, I hope his warden is nicer than Theon'sI think I read where someone said he is locked up as a prisoner at Freys earlier in the thread.
We haven't seen the Freys all season, have we? I'm curious to see whatever they did with Ed. I'm also wondering where Blackfish ended up after taking a piss outside the red wedding.
I wish there were a way to poll just this thread about whether they think Tyrion is going to live or die. After the Red Wedding and Ned Stark I really ought to know better but I just think GRRM had bigger plans for the Tyrion character than this.
I wish there were a way to poll just this thread about whether they think Tyrion is going to live or die. After the Red Wedding and Ned Stark I really ought to know better but I just think GRRM had bigger plans for the Tyrion character than this.
I kind of think killing Tyrion this season would be too obvious, if that makes any sense. So I guess I'm kind of clinging to a sliver of hope.
Preparing to get disappointed and disgusted again though lol
I wish there were a way to poll just this thread about whether they think Tyrion is going to live or die. After the Red Wedding and Ned Stark I really ought to know better but I just think GRRM had bigger plans for the Tyrion character than this.
I kind of think killing Tyrion this season would be too obvious, if that makes any sense. So I guess I'm kind of clinging to a sliver of hope.
Preparing to get disappointed and disgusted again though lol
The blessing and the curse of the show being based on books is that the characters fates are set in stone and so can't be changed on the whim of their popularity in the show.Tyrion's a character who is pretty much universally loved by fans of the show. Therefore he will almost certainly die.
I'm trying to think of the worst thing that could happen. And imagine it worse than that
Thats the next episode of GoT
Get attached to more characters. Only liking one is just straight up asking for trouble on this show, because when they die, you don't feel like watching anymore.
I thoroughly enjoy watching
Sansa
Bran
Arya
Jon
Tyrion
Pretty much the 'Starks' and 'good' people, compared to everyone else. I most of the time enjoy Daenerys, Stannis.
I love Cersei and Tywin in the 'evil' camps.
Hah! So good.
I think I read where someone said he is locked up as a prisoner at Freys earlier in the thread.
Oh yea Pod and Brienne.Get attached to more than one character not beholden to things like honor & morality, you mean, and your experience will be much more pleasant. If you're like me and favored Ramsay over Oberyn, then Sunday was actually quite touching, triumphant even.
Arya and Ned left me no choice , but I hate that I've taken to characters like Brienne and Pod. In this world they're dead persons walking. Brienne especially...a woman of honor who takes her vows as seriously as her own life is markedly fucked. The day she dies will be a shitty one, but one that could have been avoided had I adopted a scumbag only policy.
Prep time Tywin > everyone
Oh yea Pod and Brienne.
Need to start disliking them in preparation for their deaths.
Pod may live to be honest. He seems to be around for the lols. He's not much of a serious character
Why won't Sam and Gilly die
why
WHY
You can always get a situation where Tywin dies when every single Kingdom is officially enemies of the Lannisters, in which case it will be up to Jaime and if Tyrion if he lives, to handle it for GRRM's trolling purposes. Because why not.Not in my opinion. It's been that way for now, but I don't see how he can continue and they keep mysteriously having the Rains of Castamere play in the show only to be interrupted or forgotten.
I've been saying all season that Tywin's time is coming to an end so at this point, I just hope it happens already so I don't feel like I was reading into nothing. The Lannisters have to crumble at some point and losing Tywin would send all these characters into different scenarios that needs to happen. Cersei's downfall would be inevitable!
It better fucking happen. At least I know it's inevitable, but I want it soon.