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Game of Thrones *NO BOOK SPOILERS* |OT| Season 4 - Sundays on HBO [Read the OP]
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MMBosstones86
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Can you imagine people spoiling in the book thread if that comes to fruition?
I would never
In that case he'd end the show fairly prematurely lol, killing everyone on the planet.
Made me start a new FF VII playthrough btw so thanks for that guys, now I'm not as bored as I was 10 minutes ago
Hoya Destroyer
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I dont believe Tyrion will die. He is too important to the story.
My theories for his escape...
1. Shae will somehow spring him from prison
2. Jamie will somehow spring him from prison.
3. Old lady Martell will come clean to Tywin and Cersei on murdering the king, knowing that the Lanisters are broke and needing her familys money (from the upcoming marriage), she will escape punishment.
My theories for his escape...
1. Shae will somehow spring him from prison
2. Jamie will somehow spring him from prison.
3. Old lady Martell will come clean to Tywin and Cersei on murdering the king, knowing that the Lanisters are broke and needing her familys money (from the upcoming marriage), she will escape punishment.
But not Cercei's wrath.
And Tywin doesn't really care if Tyrion really did it or not, he just wants to get rid of him, so he'll probably pretend not to have heard her.
Right? It's ridiculous how all the people he's killed just aren't major characters anymore.
poppabk
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The Mountain will probably survive and capture Rickon. The Mountain, Rickon in tow, will be on his way to fight the Hound, with Arya alongside him. A day before they would meet the Hound will die of sepsis, and Arya will leave, just missing her brother.The Hound was clutching at his wound last episode.And Arya says "You should have let me burn off the flesh" or something like that. So worried that's a setup for a major disease.
Nameless
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I think I'd faint if I met natalie dormer
Ploid 3.0
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He's a fan and extra on the show, making the most of it.
"Now that my Lannister Guard duties are officially over for the season, here's an album of my King's Landing experience."
Album http://imgur.com/gallery/it9NC
I don't know, with everything that has happened the Hound's wound feels like a red herring to me. Sure we've seen it before, but I think that's why he's going to be okay. Because we've seen it before.
He might take a turn for the worse for a while and be on the verge of dying, but something tells me he'll pull through.
He might take a turn for the worse for a while and be on the verge of dying, but something tells me he'll pull through.
or it could just be my wishful thinking
I've decided. This is my least liked season so far. Besides the wedding and Joffreys death, this episoded, and the odd scene here and there (shout out to Oberyn and Arya/Hound) I haven't really enjoyed much that has happened. I can't even remember half of what has happened because I wasn't too into it.
Dany's storyline, as has been said repeatedly is getting really dull and needs to go somewhere soon. I hate the bolton's and the Reek storyline puts a bad taste in my mouth. Sure it is meant to but I don't enjoy watching any of it. The whodunnit over Joffreys death was fun while it lasted but then the cat came out of the bag and it was a long wait till the trial.
It just seems like barely anything has happened. I know stuff has but, nothing that had my full attention at least.
For me, Season 1 was awesome because it was the first look into this world and all of the political intrigue and characters were all fresh and exciting. It was fun following along trying to get used to King's Landing in much the same way that Ned Stark was doing in the show. That didn't turn out so well but his end was shocking and unexpected.
I liked Season 2 just as much, the war was in full swing and we had all sorts of things going on with the Starks like Arya's journey. Dany's storyline was interesting with the Dothraki, and we got to see some new places like Quarth. We were introduced to interesting characters like Pyat Pree from the House of the Undying. Tyrion was featured a lot and he had some great scenes, and then there was the battle of Blackwater. Stannis wasn't quite so dull and Melisandre had the whole baby thing going on. Brienne and Jamie's pairing started, and they were almost as brilliant as the Hound and Arya. Plus who can forget Hot Pie?
Season 3 gave us more Brienne and Jamie AND we get the pairing of the Hound and Arya. Before that Arya, Gendry and Hot Pie's struggle in captivity was quite interesting to watch. Jamie's good side arc begins and then gets his hand cut off, ouch! The Stark drama in the war wasn't quite so good this season but it wasn't too bad. I really enjoyed Jon Snow's time 'beyond the wall' with the Wildlings. Things seemed to start ramping up all around, and even Bran's storyline seemed to kick off a little. Then the Red Wedding happens and as shocking as it was I think it was the point at which the 'good guys never win' shtick ceased to be shocking or unexpected.
Compared to the previous seasons.. this one just feels.. slow? Not much seems to have progressed. We all know what episode 9 is like in a season so I really hope a tonne of shit goes down.
Dany's storyline, as has been said repeatedly is getting really dull and needs to go somewhere soon. I hate the bolton's and the Reek storyline puts a bad taste in my mouth. Sure it is meant to but I don't enjoy watching any of it. The whodunnit over Joffreys death was fun while it lasted but then the cat came out of the bag and it was a long wait till the trial.
It just seems like barely anything has happened. I know stuff has but, nothing that had my full attention at least.
For me, Season 1 was awesome because it was the first look into this world and all of the political intrigue and characters were all fresh and exciting. It was fun following along trying to get used to King's Landing in much the same way that Ned Stark was doing in the show. That didn't turn out so well but his end was shocking and unexpected.
I liked Season 2 just as much, the war was in full swing and we had all sorts of things going on with the Starks like Arya's journey. Dany's storyline was interesting with the Dothraki, and we got to see some new places like Quarth. We were introduced to interesting characters like Pyat Pree from the House of the Undying. Tyrion was featured a lot and he had some great scenes, and then there was the battle of Blackwater. Stannis wasn't quite so dull and Melisandre had the whole baby thing going on. Brienne and Jamie's pairing started, and they were almost as brilliant as the Hound and Arya. Plus who can forget Hot Pie?
Season 3 gave us more Brienne and Jamie AND we get the pairing of the Hound and Arya. Before that Arya, Gendry and Hot Pie's struggle in captivity was quite interesting to watch. Jamie's good side arc begins and then gets his hand cut off, ouch! The Stark drama in the war wasn't quite so good this season but it wasn't too bad. I really enjoyed Jon Snow's time 'beyond the wall' with the Wildlings. Things seemed to start ramping up all around, and even Bran's storyline seemed to kick off a little. Then the Red Wedding happens and as shocking as it was I think it was the point at which the 'good guys never win' shtick ceased to be shocking or unexpected.
Compared to the previous seasons.. this one just feels.. slow? Not much seems to have progressed. We all know what episode 9 is like in a season so I really hope a tonne of shit goes down.
None of those seem likely at all. Especially #3.
Lol okay. Let's just straight up kill off the heir to Winterfell.
The Queen of the North will survive. And you will weep icy tears.
Isn't that Bran?
Sansa is older than Bran.
Nameless
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It should be Rickon. Aside from Ary, he's the only Stark child I'm certain belonged to Ned. And his baby maker still works, unlike Bran's.
Bran's male so he's the heir. Sansa's only heir because everyone thinks Bran & Rickon are dead.
Boys get first dibs. But everyone thinks Bran and Rickon are dead, so Sansa is up next.
Sansa misses the right set of organs.
Nameless
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There's no way Greatjon Umber doesn't groom Rickon to retake Winterfell. He's as North as it gets and will never be loyal to Roose or the Crown after what happened to Ned, Robb and Cat.
No need to be bitter, I was only giving my point of view. GRRM has focused on those characters in particular, they've gone through great development changing massively as people. Whilst characters like Joffrey and Ned did not do any adapting, they never felt like main characters (I did not say "major", brodog) to begin with.
Nameless
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Our Liege Lord Eddard Stark was definitely the main character.
I'm not mad or anything, it just seems a little silly to say "well obviously the people killed weren't main characters," because that's really only true because they were killed. That's all I was pointing out.
Well, Ned had comparatively little room to grow and adapt as a character due to the untimely loss of his head early in the show.
Well that's not what I said was it? I've not just said "they've died therefore they're not main characters", I made a distinction and said those that did die didn't get a lot of development, and from the reckless decisions they've made they've ended up dead. They can also be compared to characters who aren't on the list of names I've given.
Your argument was that the show is predictable because no main characters have been killed. This is only true in retrospect. Prior to their deaths, most would have considered Ned, Robb, and Cat to be main characters.
Of course you are not going to believe me when I say I predicted those deaths. I am not making an empty point, because I do compare them to the characters who aren't on my survival list. They all seem to have something in common, a feeling like their death is very imminent. I just can't see that with my survival characters.
DrFaustPhD
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I agree with this.
We haven't seen anything from Rickon in a long time, so I can only assume his journey is going along as expected until the show gives us more scenes. If he makes it to Greatjon alive I have not doubt it will sooner or later lead to a northern uprising of some sort.
OpinionatedCyborg
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The Hound is on Arya's list. Ever since she said it in front of him, I've expected her to be the one to kill him, and this would seem to be an appropriate way of doing it since they seem to have developed a friendship.
Or maybe she still harbours ill will towards him and will leave him to suffer a long and painful death?
Or maybe she still harbours ill will towards him and will leave him to suffer a long and painful death?
LegendofDragoonLives
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How has not much progressed and seems slow? The wildlings have taken 2 seasons to finally come, Jaime has turned almost into an enemy at this rate with sister and father, breaking the Lannister family into two, last Kingdom introduced by one of the biggest badasses who is likely going to bring them into the fold after his death (only Kingdom not to be conquered), Arya has transformed into a straight up killer after killing that one person in season 3, Sansa has gotten one of the biggest character developments of any character this season, got away from King's Landing and stopped being a crybaby all the while forming an alliance with Littlefinger (who actually saw this coming?).. Littlefinger has come out of the shadows to learn that he's the biggest player of the game being the reason the series started, and he kills Lysa after marrying her while simultaneously putting moves on Sansa and grooming Robin to be one of the 7 Kingdom Lords who will be under his command. Joffrey died, and Stannis stoped sulking like a bitch and looks to either be going to King's Landing or hitting up the Wall, Shae the whore turned on Tyrion, and Bron may have possibly also left him with him potentially losing all 3 of his circle as well as wife all in one season, Jon Snow started to become a man like Rob/his father, and we finally had an episode that Bran was interesting since the premiere episode of the season.
The only people in transition are Brianne and Pod which is fine as long as it's for one season and they meet one of the Starks.. eventually next season. The Hound/Arya is also in transition but we still got a lot of depth for her. As long as she's not walking around next season, I'm ok with it. The main issue is Danny being more boring than last season and getting more unlikable by the episode (for me), but at least we still got Sir Friendzone not even being a friend anymore, with his plot out in the open which is more interesting prospect that Danny's entire plot since S3E5. We still have two more episodes left, 20% left after all of this.
I understand not liking it, but this season has had a lot of things happening and saying otherwise is pretty crazy to me. To me season 2 is by far the weakest IMO, but still pretty fantastic season nonetheless. Season 4 is shaping up to be the best one yet for me, which is saying something considering there's two episodes including episode 9 left. We usually get 3-4 really great episodes per season, but this year we've got 2 and 6, 7 & 8 so far for me. To each his own I suppose.
Just to point out, we still got two more episodes, so I'd hold on to your hat for now before you hang it up
Usually the biggest episodes (ned's head, blackwater battle, red wedding) are the 9th episode. Those other great seasons also had many slow moving parts, Mah dragons saga, theon torture porn, ect.Mashin Haters
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i wish a nigga would....
I dunno. Look at Jaime's reaction at the end of the last ep. He'll make a move, I bet.
cormack12
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^Don't think we have found out for sure. The only hint we have to go on is Varys spent time over there and he is a eunuch. When he spoke of it he says 'root and stem' were taken which would indicate both. However, there is still a chance the unsullied were treated differently.
lastplayed
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How has not much progressed and seems slow? The wildlings have taken 2 seasons to finally come, Jaime has turned almost into an enemy at this rate with sister and father, breaking the Lannister family into two, last Kingdom introduced by one of the biggest badasses who is likely going to bring them into the fold after his death (only Kingdom not to be conquered), Arya has transformed into a straight up killer after killing that one person in season 3, Sansa has gotten one of the biggest character developments of any character this season, got away from King's Landing and stopped being a crybaby all the while forming an alliance with Littlefinger (who actually saw this coming?).. Littlefinger has come out of the shadows to learn that he's the biggest player of the game being the reason the series started, and he kills Lysa after marrying her while simultaneously putting moves on Sansa and grooming Robin to be one of the 7 Kingdom Lords who will be under his command. Joffrey died, and Stannis stoped sulking like a bitch and looks to either be going to King's Landing or hitting up the Wall, Shae the whore turned on Tyrion, and Bron may have possibly also left him with him potentially losing all 3 of his circle as well as wife all in one season, Jon Snow started to become a man like Rob/his father, and we finally had an episode that Bran was interesting since the premiere episode of the season.
The only people in transition are Brianne and Pod which is fine as long as it's for one season and they meet one of the Starks.. eventually next season. The Hound/Arya is also in transition but we still got a lot of depth for her. As long as she's not walking around next season, I'm ok with it. The main issue is Danny being more boring than last season and getting more unlikable by the episode (for me), but at least we still got Sir Friendzone not even being a friend anymore, with his plot out in the open which is more interesting prospect that Danny's entire plot since S3E5. We still have two more episodes left, 20% left after all of this.
I understand not liking it, but this season has had a lot of things happening and saying otherwise is pretty crazy to me. To me season 2 is by far the weakest IMO, but still pretty fantastic season nonetheless. Season 4 is shaping up to be the best one yet for me, which is saying something considering there's two episodes including episode 9 left. We usually get 3-4 really great episodes per season, but this year we've got 2 and 6, 7 & 8 so far for me. To each his own I suppose.
I agree with everything you said here and a really well argued point. I do however have a question about the bolded. You still think Dorne will join the "fold" after all this?
LegendofDragoonLives
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I mean join the fold as in start to play a role into the storyline. Otherwise killing Oberyn served no purpose at all to the story and was done for "shock value!!1" by GRRIM, which doesn't seem like his style. Someone who did a youtube review mentioned that he knew Oberyn would die for the simple reason that it would give a perfect reason for his Kingdom to enter the storyline.. which makes sense in hindsight.
My guess is they are going to be coming after revenge 2.0, but maybe it will be something less lethal. I don't think you want someone like Oberyn coming to KL again if you are Cersei or Tywin for next season. He also told Cersei that one of his daughters has his sister's name which he fights a lot with. I can only hope that she is the female version of Oberyn in badass and comes to fuck shit up.
if this happens, please for the love of God, don't kill her GRRIM.
If they don't join the storyline and Oberyn dies for nothing, I am not going to be pleased.
Who's the one in the green dress? I recognize everyone else.
She's not the heir. Even if she was heir: why not kill her off? The North has been through enough. They don't deserve female Joffrey.
Looks like Indira Varma. Plays Ellaria Sand in the show.
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