Thanks for the answers. The crow may or may not be at this tree, but Cyan is right about how many there could be. Lord Commander tells Jon that he can find "a" tree, not "the" tree. The one Bran sees in his dreams is also in a clearing, almost as if on a podium of rocks. Jon's tree is surrounded by woods.
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Thanks for the answers. The crow may or may not be at this tree, but Cyan is right about how many there could be. Lord Commander tells Jon that he can find "a" tree, not "the" tree. The one Bran sees in his dreams is also in a clearing, almost as if on a podium of rocks. Jon's tree is surrounded by woods.
Negotiate how? lol
"Hey umm, I know you out number us 1000-1, and it's clear to anyone observing that you can straight kick our asses. However, I was wondering if we could come to an arrangement where by you know, you umm, lose?....what's that?...Why are you making gestures with your hands?..."
*the sound of an arrow wheezing through the air, followed by Jon Snow collapsing to his knees dying. Mance slowly walks up to him, kneels, and whispers in his ears*
"You know nothing Jon Snow"
*FADE TO BLACK*
I assume/hope that the reason last year's finale ended on such an uneventful note is because they were only halfway through the book. This year's finale should match up with a book ending, so it should be a little more resolute.
Uneventful? It was the sausage and pizza episode!
Well sure, it sound stupid when you think about it. Maybe Mance isn't aware of Jon's betrayal, and Jon will come into his tent going all
"HHhheeyyy, what's up Mance? Our group lost against the battle of Castle Black, so give me something to drink, i'm thirsty."
"Sure." *Turns around to pick a cup*
"Ah. Gotcha." *snaps Mance's neck*
You do make a good point though. I forgot that he left his sword behind. I guess it's possible that he did so knowing that they weren't going to let Jon get near Mance with a weapon anyways, so his only chance is to find some way to kill him right then and there.
Nameless
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They sent out ravens when they found out bout the white walkers but did they send ravens informing the lords of the 100,000 wildlings?
I'm actually more interested in the wall storylines after that episode. It finally showed that the nights watch isn't a joke and what they are fighting for is greater than anything else going on in Westeros.
I actually have a feeling the wall will fall.
The chances of the nights watch surviving is already so slim and knowing how GRRM is he will stick to the realism and likely hood of it falling. I'll be sad if this happens because I like Jon snow and the nights watch but I feel like the wildlings attacking westeros is necessary.
I'm actually more interested in the wall storylines after that episode. It finally showed that the nights watch isn't a joke and what they are fighting for is greater than anything else going on in Westeros.
I actually have a feeling the wall will fall.
The chances of the nights watch surviving is already so slim and knowing how GRRM is he will stick to the realism and likely hood of it falling. I'll be sad if this happens because I like Jon snow and the nights watch but I feel like the wildlings attacking westeros is necessary.
a Master Ninja
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I thought Bran was talking to the other warg kid about his dreams after they first met and was told something like "You can never catch the raven in your dreams because you are the raven." Am I mistaken?
Wings 嫩翼翻せ
so it's not nice
No. But also, IIRC, during one of the most recent episodes he convinced Bran to not meet his brother when he and his compatriots invaded where he was being held hostage by saying "You want to find the three-eyed raven, don't you?" I'm confused myself.
pel1300
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I wanna know this too..but it's the ending theme as well.
YesNOnoNOYes
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ugh i love bran and his stupid three-eyed-raven arc >__<;;;;;
and jojen and meera..... i really like them both too. and HODOR. and Summer <3
this is my chosen quiet arc, tbh
I know there are a few 'quiet' or 'slow' arcs, ... this one's mine. Although I enjoy most of GoT arcs, cept for Sam's. The others are quite enjoyable :>
.... I want to see where Rickon and Osha are at, too.... aaaaaaaaah
and now i want to draw some bran/three-eyed-raven doodles :x
and jojen and meera..... i really like them both too. and HODOR. and Summer <3
this is my chosen quiet arc, tbh
I know there are a few 'quiet' or 'slow' arcs, ... this one's mine. Although I enjoy most of GoT arcs, cept for Sam's. The others are quite enjoyable :>
.... I want to see where Rickon and Osha are at, too.... aaaaaaaaah
and now i want to draw some bran/three-eyed-raven doodles :x
I was thinking more along the lines of White Savior Danerys being the final shot of the year for some reason.
Tywin mentioned it a few episodes ago when he was listing the threats to the kingdom, he mentions danny, the wildling army, ect. so clearly he knows the rumors of it at the very least.
MetalFearSolid
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Yo damn the Jackson-Melo scene lmao
MMBosstones86
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Wildings attacking Westeros is so much less cool than White Walkers attacking Westeros.
I still think Stannis will show up and somehow save the day. Then the White Walkers will temple kick everyone.
Is this white savior bs still floating around? Ugh. Its completely inaccurate
a Master Ninja
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These are pretty clever.
1. Apparently the giants were intelligent enough when they employed those mammoths.
2. Well then, why stop the assault?
3. You don't waste your entire infiltration force on a test run, or do they have another one?
You want some of that ginger minge ? Rickeeeee!When Ygritte died, my bro tried to high five me...
Knowing full well that she's my crush...
Nameless
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Mance didn't want to blow his load too soon in case The Wall was in fact sufficiently manned. You're always trying to get your opponent to tip their hand and he did that. Remember Mance used to be a Crow, he knows their strategies. Now he knows the strength at which they're executing those strategies and exactly what they're capable of. It's chess over checkers. Had they been undermanned and poorly skilled and the C-tier attack worked, fine, but the information he gathers from the skirmish will allow him to plan his response accordingly, and take Castle Black with less damage to his own forces than aimlessly throwing shit at the wall.
GIANKRATOS
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LegendofDragoonLives
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Slightly off topic but worth a mention.
Just got the first book of 7 in the Accursed Kings series today, written by Maurice Druon. This one is titled The Iron King. GRRIM is supposedly heavily inspired by this which is what got me interested, with "This is the original Game of Thrones" quote by him at the top of the first book.
Just started reading in the beginning and GRRIM had written a little something that had me shocked, "And believe me, the Starks and Lannisters have nothing on the Capets and Plantagenets"
Will likely start this this weekend if I don't have too much work. I don't think I'm ready for this.
Just got the first book of 7 in the Accursed Kings series today, written by Maurice Druon. This one is titled The Iron King. GRRIM is supposedly heavily inspired by this which is what got me interested, with "This is the original Game of Thrones" quote by him at the top of the first book.
Just started reading in the beginning and GRRIM had written a little something that had me shocked, "And believe me, the Starks and Lannisters have nothing on the Capets and Plantagenets"
Will likely start this this weekend if I don't have too much work. I don't think I'm ready for this.
Brofist
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When Ygritte died, my bro tried to high five me...
Knowing full well that she's my crush...
Tell him I got his back
PhoenixDark
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Slightly off topic but worth a mention.
Just got the first book of 7 in the Accursed Kings series today, written by Maurice Druon. This one is titled The Iron King. GRRIM is supposedly heavily inspired by this which is what got me interested, with "This is the original Game of Thrones" quote by him at the top of the first book.
Just started reading in the beginning and GRRIM had written a little something that had me shocked, "And believe me, the Starks and Lannisters have nothing on the Capets and Plantagenets"
Will likely start this this weekend if I don't have too much work. I don't think I'm ready for this.
Some people feel the writing and characterization are dry, especially when compared to Game of Thrones, but they're damn good books IMO. I haven't read them all but I've been impressed by what I've read.
TheVampire
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Anyone seen this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tv4t9LhDLQ8
The Mountain dresses up as the Hulk for some kids party.
See that part where he lifts a dad over his head??
Damn all he needed to do was that drop on the knee back breaker move like Bane did to Batman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tv4t9LhDLQ8
The Mountain dresses up as the Hulk for some kids party.
See that part where he lifts a dad over his head??
Damn all he needed to do was that drop on the knee back breaker move like Bane did to Batman
Red Liquorice
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A whole episode of a LOTR-esque big CGI fight scene? What a waste. I hope the final episode isn't more of the same, bored me shitless.
YesNOnoNOYes
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What? Hardly.
Napoleonthechimp
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Or the crow in question may just be symbolic. What other things are referred to as Crows in Westeros?
Atraveller
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It's a giant wall, covered with ice, if it's pure ice, it would have collapsed under its own weight.
Edit: Wait I'm not so sure.
Edit 2: From the show wiki
I figured we was looking for a member of the Night's Watch who's also a warg. We don't know one yet though, do we?
Most characters are historical, their life, consequences of their actions, and ultimate death really happened so there is no case of the writer writing off a character to make the plot advance. The narration is heavily romanticised though , which makes it quite enjoyable.
lastplayed
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Really? I'm no scientician, but I thought ice is really strong.
And if it should collapse in reality it doesn't bother me it doesn't collapse in the show. This show has dragons and zombies, the show doesn't have to be that accurate.
actually i was really surprised Ygritte didn't just let the arrow go so they both died, when she got hit.
I mean when you get hit it's probably more likely in a shock reaction to let your tension loose in the fingers than slowly loosening the shot.
Either way I hoped it wouldn't have happened, as I liked her a lot. But it's good that at least Jon remains as a major character.
I mean when you get hit it's probably more likely in a shock reaction to let your tension loose in the fingers than slowly loosening the shot.
Either way I hoped it wouldn't have happened, as I liked her a lot. But it's good that at least Jon remains as a major character.
QuiteWhittle
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Actually there wasn't much CGI used in the episode. CGI is notably expensive for the show so they try to avoid it with prosthetics or practical effects whenever possible.
Dutch Gronk
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I hope it all ends with Jon on the Iron Throne.
SolidusDave
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Glaciers can be very high/thick (miles).
However, if the thickness exceeds 50 m, the ice starts to behave more like a liquid or something due to the pressure. Not sure what would happen, but my guess is a free standing (relatively thin) wall of ice would either slide away or more likely the lower layers get pushed out more and more while the overall Wall gets shorter and shorter. Resulting in a pile of ice at some point.
(but anyway it's magic ice considering no one could have built it by normal means, unless you stack blocks of ice for a long time I guess)
Necromanti
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I really hate how nowhere seems to be safe from spoilers anymore. I've had major things spoiled thanks to a damn Luigi Mario Kart video and a Twitch stream. Maybe I should accept the reality that it is (seemingly) inevitable.
I don't leave the house after GoT has aired. I live in a bubble where only I and the show exist untill I have seen it. I've gotten spoiled while stuck in traffic.
Atraveller
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Yeah I guess that's the explanation.
Red Liquorice
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Well the CGI wasn't really my point, but ok.
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