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Game of Thrones *NO BOOK SPOILERS* |OT| Season 4 - Sundays on HBO [Read the OP]

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I've seen all the seasons before but am currently re-watching them all. I didn't think of it before, but in season 2, when Stannis attacks King's Landing and is defeated, in the next scene he's back at his usual hangout. Is that ever explained? It looked like he got captured by the Lannisters yet nothing happened. I also don't even get how large the place he hangs around in is or how he even upholds his army.

Also I can't get an image of Winterfell's full size. First in season 1 I thought it was huge, seeing how it's like the capital of the north, but the more seasons pass the smaller it seems. It got captured by 20 men? The biggest shot I remember off it is when it's all in fire and the two young Stark boys are escaping it, when it randomly appears to be bigger again.

Just a few thoughts popping up, figured I should bump this one month old thread instead of the years old thread for the older seasons :)
 

Venture

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I've seen all the seasons before but am currently re-watching them all. I didn't think of it before, but in season 2, when Stannis attacks King's Landing and is defeated, in the next scene he's back at his usual hangout. Is that ever explained? It looked like he got captured by the Lannisters yet nothing happened. I also don't even get how large the place he hangs around in is or how he even upholds his army.
Those were Stannis' own men that were dragging him out of King's landing once they realized the battle was lost. He has a small island fortress, Dragonstone, but very little of it has been shown in the show. I don't think he has much of an army at all. Stannis has to buy one whenever he goes on the attack, in addition to whatever allies he can scrounge up.
 

El Daniel

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I've seen all the seasons before but am currently re-watching them all. I didn't think of it before, but in season 2, when Stannis attacks King's Landing and is defeated, in the next scene he's back at his usual hangout. Is that ever explained? It looked like he got captured by the Lannisters yet nothing happened. I also don't even get how large the place he hangs around in is or how he even upholds his army.

Also I can't get an image of Winterfell's full size. First in season 1 I thought it was huge, seeing how it's like the capital of the north, but the more seasons pass the smaller it seems. It got captured by 20 men? The biggest shot I remember off it is when it's all in fire and the two young Stark boys are escaping it, when it randomly appears to be bigger again.

Just a few thoughts popping up, figured I should bump this one month old thread instead of the years old thread for the older seasons :)

Stannis own men dragged him from the battlefield before the enemy could capture him. And they returned to Dragonstone.

Winterfell is pretty big but almost everyone left with Robb to the south. The people who remained opened the door for Theon because they trusted him.
 
Those were Stannis' own men that were dragging him out of King's landing once they realized the battle was lost. He has a small island fortress, Dragonstone, but very little of it has been shown in the show. I don't think he has much of an army at all. Stannis has to buy one whenever he goes on the attack, in addition to whatever allies he can scrounge up.

Stannis own men dragged him from the battlefield before the enemy could capture him. And they returned to Dragonstone.

Winterfell is pretty big but almost everyone left with Robb to the south. The people who remained opened the door for Theon because they trusted him.

That makes sense, but still Stannis was kind of surrounded by Lannisters. Surprised he could slip away so easily after all, but I suppose it's possible. They should definitely have added a few scenes there imo.

There have been no big shots of Winterfell. Maybe it's explained in the book but they never mention how large the area is or its' population. I don't know, looks like it can house a few hundred people? So tiny.
 
That makes sense, but still Stannis was kind of surrounded by Lannisters. Surprised he could slip away so easily after all, but I suppose it's possible. They should definitely have added a few scenes there imo.

There have been no big shots of Winterfell. Maybe it's explained in the book but they never mention how large the area is or its' population. I don't know, looks like it can house a few hundred people? So tiny.
I'll send you a PM answering the Winterfell question with book insight, without spoiling anything.
 

NeoGiff

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I know but did I really spoil anything, I think my comment is safe enough. I won't discuss the further though, just the bit about Winterfel.

You made a book/show comparison, which isn't allowed. Come over to the other thread when you're ready, and be careful and sensitive about other members when posting here.
 

Akim

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In this thread, it's like the books were never written. We kind of just pretend they never existed. It's better that way.
 

Tythan

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I still haven't figured out what does "Valar Dohaeris" mean. Heard it a couple of times during S04 as a answer to "Valar Morghuliis".

Did I miss something or simply we can't know it yet?
 

Jacob

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Filming wraps after the first week of December. Then post production ramps up and it'll premier in April or May.

Wouldn't it be in late March or early April like the previous seasons, or are they going to premiere this one a little later? I dunno if I missed any announcements about this.
 
Wouldn't it be in late March or early April like the previous seasons, or are they going to premiere this one a little later? I dunno if I missed any announcements about this.

S4 premiered on April 6th last year, I'm assuming S5 will come out with a similar window.
 
Just binge watched this entire series. Wow. I ordered the books and I'm reading them now. Didn't expect to love this so much. :p

Yea I started like two before season 4 started. I was like alright enough everyone keeps talking about this fucking show I'll see how it goes ended up binge watching season 1-3 right before 4 premiered.
 

Fantastical

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Yea I started like two before season 4 started. I was like alright enough everyone keeps talking about this fucking show I'll see how it goes ended up binge watching season 1-3 right before 4 premiered.

It's one of my favorite shows I've ever watched for sure. The Red Wedding was the most brutal and disturbing thing I've ever seen on a TV show. I mean good God. Catelyn's yell of desperation is haunting.
 

Curufinwe

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Only three months till season 4 comes out on Blu-Ray.

Do any of you own these Inside GoT books? I am trying to come up with gift ideas for myself because my family tells me I'm impossible to by for.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/1452110107/?tag=neogaf0e-20

http://www.amazon.com/dp/1452122180/?tag=neogaf0e-20

I finished reading these last night. They are very nicely put together and have plenty of interesting tidbits, but I wish there was a little more information in there. There's one page where the show runners are being interviewed, and the text stops with almost a full column left on the page and I thought, they really couldn't have come up with a couple of extra comments?

The last page of the second book has a bunch of the actors saying who on the show they think deserves to die, and that was really cool. Peter Dinklage said it should be
Hot Pie.
 

bengraven

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I skimmed through Book 1 and it was gorgeous.

If I can go by the Sopranos and Deadwood books HBO put out, they're probably incredibly well written as well.

Not surprising given how they were damn near fingering each other in every pic the two took together last season.

So is it confirmed? Reading their twitters and seeing their Instagram, they were definitely at least HIDING some infatuation with each other. If they weren't dating, I'd bet the sexual tension would be so overwhelming that someone on set would have to yell "JUST FUCK ALREADY".
 

aravuus

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Only three months till season 4 comes out on Blu-Ray.

Do any of you own these Inside GoT books? I am trying to come up with gift ideas for myself because my family tells me I'm impossible to by for.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/1452110107/?tag=neogaf0e-20

http://www.amazon.com/dp/1452122180/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Ouch, the kindle versions are almost as expensive as the hardcovers. Doubt the books are very good on a cheap kindle though, what with all the pictures and that stuff.
 

bengraven

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It's one of my favorite shows I've ever watched for sure. The Red Wedding was the most brutal and disturbing thing I've ever seen on a TV show. I mean good God. Catelyn's yell of desperation is haunting.

It's the sound a human soul makes as it leaves behind it's flesh body behind. She's just instantly snapped and is gone forever, even before the dagger finishes her.
 

Curufinwe

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One other thing that stood out - the show runners are kind of bastards. They gave Kit Harrington a fake script where, when Jon Snow saves Jeor Mormont from the zombie, he gets his hair and the top of his face burned off and ends up missing his top lip. They thought it was funny to make a "good looking guy" think he would spend the rest of series wearing disfiguring makeup.

They also gave Theon's actor a fake script where Bran, Osha and Rirckon stab him to death. The pages of the fake scripts are in the book, so it's pretty cool. But very mean.
 

Ovid

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One other thing that stood out - the show runners are kind of bastards. They gave Kit Harrington a fake script where, when Jon Snow saves Jeor Mormont from the zombie, he gets his hair and the top of his face burned off and ends up missing his top lip. They thought it was funny to make a "good looking guy" think he would spend the rest of series wearing disfiguring makeup.

They also gave Theon's actor a fake script where Bran, Osha and Rirckon stab him to death. The pages of the fake scripts are in the book, so it's pretty cool. But very mean.
Damn it!!! What the hell is wrong with you!?

The title of the thread says no book spoilers.
 

Fliesen

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He's talking about the behind the scenes of the show books posted on the last page, not the novels.

... technically those are still books!

so: "these fake script pages are on display in the behind the scenes book" is what he meant?

and not "these script pages were fake but do describe stuff that's actually happening within the series of books"

thanks for clearing that up. Sorry for being harsh Curufinwe.
 
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