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Game of Thrones *NO BOOK SPOILERS* |OT| Season 4 - Sundays on HBO [Read the OP]
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It has to be the pie, they zoomed in on the pie after he cut it open with the sword.
He's a good actor in my opinion. At least he seems born for this role. There's a reason everyone hated him so much... he was really convincing.
n00bsauce87
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mostly that guy
Cersei blaming everything on Tyrion is pretty evil.
Ploid 3.0
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And he's done acting. It was meant for him.
TheContact
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Big Weather said Sansa had the cup under the table? I didn't catch that but if so then it was definitely her
thestopsign
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Ramsay?
ComputerBlue
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I think they zoomed in just to show that he killed a dove while cutting it. But I still think it has to be the pie.
I don't see why people are saying Sansa, she may have had the cup, but it was empty and tipped over. Unless they have some special poison glue like substance she rubbed on the inside of the cup we don't know about then there's no way it was her.
Escape Goat
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Why would Olenna kill him? Her family's claim to the throne is now null.
ComputerBlue
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That was definitely a fantastic part, so damn powerful but easily overlooked by the end of the episode.
Really? That is the most unappealing to me. It would be really disappointing if it were supernatural or religious.
Political intrigue is much more interesting.
she actually just reaches down and picks it up, and Tyrion is under the table looking at the cup when she does it
He sailed off to the Vale at the end of season 3 to bring Lisa Arryn into the fold.
SneakySneaks
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double jump
you haven't lived until a random little kid ask you "how do you make love".
yeah, i was thinking the same. there doesn't seem to be any black and white bad guys now that joffery is dead.
maybe the lord of light women or Ramsay but they don't have that new asshole shine that joffrey did.
BigWeather
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I think she did, briefly -- Joffrey kicks the cup under the table, Tyrion goes searching for it, Sansa rises on the far side of the table with it and hands it to Tyrion.
However, I am wondering if it was perhaps the pie, I hadn't thought of that. If so then that'd seem to point to the grandmother (Olanna? I'm bad with names). I could understand why she'd do it, just seems like she'd wait until Margery was definitely the queen to strike though.
theytookourjobz
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Maybe Joff was allergic to dove. He did himself in by slamming his blade into the cake.
LyleLanley
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Didn't she hand the cup to Tyrion after it rolled under the table? Although Joffrey drank wine out of that cup and seemed to be ok.
Stevetopsy
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I know this is fantasy and all that, but if this were real life would they really put Tyrion to death for this? If I were him I would say, "the wine was already in the jar thing, all I did was pour it. Also, why would I just stand around while he's dying?" There's no proof it was him. I know this is fantasy land where royalty can pretty much have you killed for sneezing. I guess Tywin will figure he might as well take the chance to finally get rid of Tyrion regardless of whether he thinks he did it or not.
Psychological Intellect
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Because Olenna is a badass and not power hungry like the Lannisters and knows that Joffrey is a horrible king? The show has pretty obviously shown her as being an opposite equal to Tywin, who does anything for gain in house/family strength.
Ah thanks. Forgot.
Still think he or Varys had something to do with it. Littlefinger is such a sneaky sniveling bastard. Varys just creeps me out in different ways ... and has/knows lots of secrets.
Sansa only has one use. And it is to feel sorry for herself and her situation.
I doubt she had any knowing of the poisoning.
Would have liked her to stab Joffrey in the face though ....
People have been executed throughout actual history for far less.
Escape Goat
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Why kill him after spending a ton of gold on their wedding? Maergery's plan has been to run out the clock until she had a baby. Olenna may not be obsessed over power but she definitely has been scheming for it like all the rest.
There's also the little issue that her beloved granddaughter is marrying one of the worst, most powerful monsters of Westeros.
Remember, fucker loved his crossbow.
Psychological Intellect
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makes sense. No where to be found, etc. Still think Olenna had something to do with it.
and the fat guy fool who whisked Sansa away, he gave sansa that necklace. I need to rewatch the episode to see if Sansa was wearing the necklace since Olenna was fuckign around with her offering her condolences and touching all over her.
OG_Original Gamer
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It had to be fool or Oberyn.
Nameless
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Whether or not an enemy wielding poison or an enemy wielding the blessings of a god killed Joffrey the political ramifications are there.
Let's say someone did poison Joffrey, it's still hard to deny, given the timing, that the fall of another Usurper King was set in motion by a higher force.
Escape Goat
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Unlike Sansa, Maergery knows how to control Joffrey. That was what got Cersei all up in arms an episode or two ago. She knew Maergery was bending Joffrey to her will and not Cersei's.
Sansa was definitely wearing that necklace.
This shit up on HBO Go yet? I need to rewatch something.
Vyse The Legend
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Amazing to see Joffrey go in a random episode. However, am I the only one disappointed that he was offed via cloak and dagger tactics? This death, while deservedly painful, was too good for him. I'm a bit unsatisfied.
He would have done something terrible to her eventually.
They lied and it was on HBO go like the minute it was on TV.
Nope, I don't buy The Lord of Light. The deaths that have happened have been a culmination of a long line of events leading up to them. Joffrey has had it coming for ages and he has a lot of enemies even within his people. Stannis asking the Red God to kill the usurpers is just coincidental timing imo and it works out for him and his religious fanatics because they'll buy it and eat it up.
It's been up pretty much since 9 pm eastern.
Ah. Rewatching the wedding scene then.
Smart of them to throw the ruse so the load wasn't as high on HBO Go.
CambriaRising
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You are forgetting lord Beric who came back to life 6 times and the ShadowBaby.
demosthenes
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Yea, so happy it worked right away.
Psychological Intellect
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Can you check if it's still intact after Olenna speaks with her?
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