Vyse The Legend
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The series is called A Song of Ice and Fire. There's an undead herd of Ice people about to descend on the civilized world, and a woman with Fire-breathing dragons planning to do the same.
Yeah...
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The series is called A Song of Ice and Fire. There's an undead herd of Ice people about to descend on the civilized world, and a woman with Fire-breathing dragons planning to do the same.
Yeah...
Succinct Verbosity
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I don't know if having a leader that burns his own daughter -the continuation of his royal line- to the ground for militart victory is going to reflect well on people that have no blood relationship with him.
Nakkilokki
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I'm still pro-Stannis. He does what he must.
So almost all we've been through so far, all of the houses fighting each other, was pretty much pointless then? That's interesting.
the implication is that if he didn't, there wouldn't even be anyone left to dislike him or be king once the white walkers come anyway
this all hinges on how legit melisandre's visions and the lord of light are, and the lord of light seems pretty legit
although i guess very few people know about the walkers at all in the first place
Can Crusher
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Stannis is completely in character. Those surprised really need to learn how to take a hint.
shamo42
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Team Stannis the Menace FTW. It takes a lot of courage and will to sacrifice your own child for the greater good.
He could gave done that while still recognising the tragedy of the situation. He's too absolute and simplistic to conceive of something like that. His wife proved far more human. He's willful, yeah, but a monster.
MMBosstones86
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Yeah he's dead, sorry. Dude got repeatedly stabbed in the chest.
I actually thought he was the leader of the harpies until his demise.
Can Crusher
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He's the rock he's shown to be since the very beginning, with his environment being an extension of himself.
Nose Master
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I feel dumb for it, but did anyone else not realize that Arya was actually a fishmonger until this past episode? I thought she was just doing some improv theater with the man of a thousand faces to prove she could transform into anyone with any backstory :X
Speculation time:
Jon will die sometime soon. Arya will end up killing the man of a thousand faces, because she's still a dumb child and it will be over something stupid. If for no other reason than his death, cycling through a bunch of faces, will be a spectacle. Davos(Bravos?) will end up either deserting, killing Mel, or killing Stan.
Also Ramsay wins, cause he's awesome.
Speculation time:
Jon will die sometime soon. Arya will end up killing the man of a thousand faces, because she's still a dumb child and it will be over something stupid. If for no other reason than his death, cycling through a bunch of faces, will be a spectacle. Davos(Bravos?) will end up either deserting, killing Mel, or killing Stan.
Also Ramsay wins, cause he's awesome.
enigmatic_alex44
Whenever a game uses "middleware," I expect mediocrity. Just see how poor TLOU looks.
Disagree. I've never bought into Jaime's redemption arc. This is the man that forced himself on his own sister at his son's funeral service and crippled an innocent boy. He's disgusting.
There had better be a group of Seven Sons waiting to arrest Jaime when he gets off the boat in King's Landing. If Cersei is going to be tried for incest and punished accordingly, then Jaime should be too.
I don't disagree. I think calling him courageous is a bit much. If his feelings are suppressed or absence, no courage is needed.
nelsonroyale
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He is increasingly desperate and has been literally marginalised. Despite Melissandre's obvious powers, she hasn't exactly enabled him to go from strength to strength. This act was the act of desperate man on the edge of complete disaster. It is his supposedly 'Griffith' eclipse moment. Except for the fact I don't think the acting/his previous articulation and interaction, particularly pointed to this. Stannis is supposed to be a hard man but a fair one. The idea that a king would burn his royal heir to effectively combat a guy like Ramsay...does underline his pathetic situation though.
MercurialTurnip
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Fuck it, I'm on #TeamWunWun.
Can Crusher
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There's nothing to be gained with John's death at this point. Calling it plot armor, which is apparently the new thing to say, might seem witty but really what does the story or the characters around him gain with his death?
Something has to happen to him though, he has earned that much.
Of course he's desperate. His men are dying, literally and figuratively. His claim to the throne put on ice. Find yourself with no way out, and your only choice is to push forward.
IAmRandom31
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I actually laughed when the supplies were gone. Such horrible writing. Makes no sense. Would never happen, to that extent anyway.
Winter time. Massive army already in trouble. The food storage and supplies would be guarded like a fortress. I mean that is your livelihood. Beyond your own life, that is the most important thing in the camp. And they let Ramsay just waltz in and destroy it.
So bad. And then, due to your incompetence you burn your own child to try and save yourself.
Get fucked Ramsay. Get fucked Stannis. Get fucked Roose. Get fucked Westeros.
Its feasting time Walkers. Have your fill.
Winter time. Massive army already in trouble. The food storage and supplies would be guarded like a fortress. I mean that is your livelihood. Beyond your own life, that is the most important thing in the camp. And they let Ramsay just waltz in and destroy it.
So bad. And then, due to your incompetence you burn your own child to try and save yourself.
Get fucked Ramsay. Get fucked Stannis. Get fucked Roose. Get fucked Westeros.
Its feasting time Walkers. Have your fill.
What Grey Worm is supposed to be doing anyway? Is he still resting?
It took a while for this season to get going, but it is finally paying off! After last week's fantastic episode, another great one. I have really high hopes for the season finale. As always, some random thoughts:
- While what Stannis did was despicable, in his mind it was necessary to make sure that he becomes king and defeats the white walkers. So his choice was between burning his daughter or his army starving which will eventually lead to the whole country being killed by the white walkers. Also, he is still one of the few people with real power that sees and recognizes the danger of the white walkers. He no longer is the king we want, but he is still the king we need.
- It was good to see Tyrion back on top again, next to the queen, after more than a season of him being imprisoned by either Cersei or Jorah.
- By the way, why doesn't Tyrion tell Dany that there are people being abducted and sold as slaves against their will, and that some of those people end up fighting in the pits? That would be enough reason for her to stop the games right?
- The ruler of Dorne and his son keep on showing that they are great and wise rulers, that put the lives of their people before their own emotions and desires. So they probably will end up getting stabbed soon
- While what Stannis did was despicable, in his mind it was necessary to make sure that he becomes king and defeats the white walkers. So his choice was between burning his daughter or his army starving which will eventually lead to the whole country being killed by the white walkers. Also, he is still one of the few people with real power that sees and recognizes the danger of the white walkers. He no longer is the king we want, but he is still the king we need.
- It was good to see Tyrion back on top again, next to the queen, after more than a season of him being imprisoned by either Cersei or Jorah.
- By the way, why doesn't Tyrion tell Dany that there are people being abducted and sold as slaves against their will, and that some of those people end up fighting in the pits? That would be enough reason for her to stop the games right?
- The ruler of Dorne and his son keep on showing that they are great and wise rulers, that put the lives of their people before their own emotions and desires. So they probably will end up getting stabbed soon
partime
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Damn right you should open that gate, let John Snow back in!
The Never Ending Story had better "CG" than Danny riding her dragon, that was completely cringe worthy, and what's with all of Dannys companions just standing around? I can totally see them dusting off their shirts and meeting her back in the palace like nothing happened... geez I hope not...
The Never Ending Story had better "CG" than Danny riding her dragon, that was completely cringe worthy, and what's with all of Dannys companions just standing around? I can totally see them dusting off their shirts and meeting her back in the palace like nothing happened... geez I hope not...
Slightly underwhelming to be honest, especially compared to Hardhome. I also expected a major death or grand scale event, I think it was kind of a tradition, right? (S1 Eddard, S2 Blackwater, S3 Red Wedding, S4 Ygritte among others). Any way, good episode if not maybe a little underwhelming, but the ending with Drogan coming to the rescue was cool. Though CGI felt a little off.
And Stannis' actions may or may not be justified, but I'm not rooting for him any more. That's a fucked up thing to do.
And Stannis' actions may or may not be justified, but I'm not rooting for him any more. That's a fucked up thing to do.
Nakkilokki
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Drogon dealt with most of the Harpys, the rest can be taken out by the Unsullied.
Freedom = $1.05
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i guess they saved this Olly thing for the last episode of the season, along with Sansa's storyline. It's as if we're getting a two hour episode 9 this year. This season really could use it, the pacing has been all over the place
Stannis basically giving up his soul when burning is daughter might as well have been 2 major deaths.
Stannis basically giving up his soul when burning is daughter might as well have been 2 major deaths.
MushroomSamba
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Not to mention the remaining Harpies are probably still shook by the fact that a giant fucking dragon just swept down and ate and set fire to a bunch of their comrades. That probably killed some of their mojo.
soundscream
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Multiple stab winds in a world where a scratch can kill you.........let him have a few days off.
JadedWriter
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If Bran listened to his god damn mother and not climbed up that building in the first place he wouldn't have been in the position to be thrown out of a fucking window.
Freedom = $1.05
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yeah, if i tasked with stabbing people from close range and suddenly a fucking dragon was 20 feet away from me I'd be quick to get the fuck out of there.
demosthenes
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Talk about butterfly effect. If Bran only listened, imagine where we would be :lol
He's a selfish asshole like everyone
Jon is like the only one that has not real desire for power, which makes him kinda fair and neutral
Gaming Truth
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Also, it seemed like their main plan was to assassinate the Queen, and she just took off on a dragon. They have no reason to stick around and fight.
Who is assuring victory, Melisandre?
I assume their "fire god" will answer with food and other extra supplies that will make them able to reach Winterfell.
Future PhaZe
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Stannis is damned
he was justified in killing Renly, but this is different--by the old gods and the new, he will burn
he was justified in killing Renly, but this is different--by the old gods and the new, he will burn
Strangelove77
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I don't quite get the criticisms against the dragon cg. It looked good. What exactly are we comparing it to?
It's about the same as Smaug, which for better or for worse is the best cg dragon still.
And you can't compare it to something like the new Planet of The Apes cg because those have a real world point of reference. Those are "easier" to do.
Dragons are mythical creatures that people think are just giant lizards even if they're described as more in most books with dragons in it. At this point it's all artistic choice.
I dunno. It's a pet peeve of mine to dismiss cg after knowing how the industry treats these artists. Cg is a lot of hard work for little pay by very passionate people. It's something that continues to evolve. I just can't make fun of it.
It's about the same as Smaug, which for better or for worse is the best cg dragon still.
And you can't compare it to something like the new Planet of The Apes cg because those have a real world point of reference. Those are "easier" to do.
Dragons are mythical creatures that people think are just giant lizards even if they're described as more in most books with dragons in it. At this point it's all artistic choice.
I dunno. It's a pet peeve of mine to dismiss cg after knowing how the industry treats these artists. Cg is a lot of hard work for little pay by very passionate people. It's something that continues to evolve. I just can't make fun of it.
Dreams-Visions
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I'm still salty tho. But yes, I agree. He just...you know, one would hope he loved her enough to draw a line. Nope! At least he seemed to momentarily realize the gravity of what he had done. I'm glad he watched it all so he will always remember.
yea, I thought it looked quite good.
LegendofDragoonLives
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Perfection.STANNIS!!!!
It was said that you would destroy the Boltons not stood to their level!
Ideally Sansa kills Roose, not Ramsay. I am fairly confident after this that the North is going to fuck up the Boltons and then Stannis will feel justified.Curufinwe said:
Also damn.. someone in a episode review just said who sent the necklace. Would be quite a mindfuck if Prince Doran actually sent the necklace. If that's the case, that's another really intelligent player in the game.
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