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GameSpot: Kojima to leave Konami after MGSV, power struggle, communications embargo

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So, will the POW's in MGSV still be named after Koji Productions staff?

It would be pretty ironically sad to take them out, since they are prisoner's of Konami's wims.
 

jelly

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Seems a bit pety to remove his name and such. If the company is changing, fine but let things roll until the game is done and released then move on, thanks for your talents, best of luck in the future etc. it's like they want the glory and are just being scummy.
 

Bergerac

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This is the best news ever as far as I'm concerned. Konami is pure shit. Now Kojima won't be held back by their toxicity.

Too bad about Silent Hills, though. That was the one not-MGS-related good idea to come out of that company in a long while.

Which is to me, why it's some of the worst news ever because the SH IP was in dire straits frankly and Kojima had, up to this point, helped to make it relevant. Silent Hills is now going to be more unfairly scrutinised because of this.
 

Colombo

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So it's very very likely that Metal Gear Solid 5 will be the last Konami game I ever buy. I am not into PES, Castlevania is basically dead and Metal Gear Solid will no longer be directed by Kojima.

Really sad how much this industry has changed in the last 10 years!
 

Mandoric

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This is a great point. I'm not sure if he'd retroactively disown the games like that, though. And that it would be executed as efficiently as it was if it was requested by Kojima.

IMO disowning would be something like yanking his name from the actual credits, which doesn't seem to be in the cards given that he's allegedly still working there through December. The no vanity billing/vanity studio bit is less a complete erasing and more a regression to how most other big directors behave, which could be Kojima not wanting Konami to take advantage, Konami being done extending special favors to a guy they're through with, or quite possibly both.
 

Xiraiya

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Is there any actual word on them removing his name from the game in any way? I thought they were simply restricting his presence surrounding it's marketing, appearances and so on.
 

yuraya

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The current AAA industry is trash. Kojima doesn't belong anywhere near it. You have to release a game every year in order to stay afloat and sink hundreds of millions of dollars. That is not his style.

MGSV should be the last game for him. Let him go out on top with his royal flush. I hope he retires for the sake of his legacy. People need to leave him alone. Let him be.
 

Converse

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This is beyond unfortunate. Like Capcom, seeing that Konami logo will be like seeing a ghost of the past from here on out.

As for Kojima, I actually see plenty of silver lining here. For one, it's very rare that we get to see a successful video game series have a definitive, consciously planned ending. I absolutely adore Metal Gear, but I'm actually excited by the prospect of saying "this is it -- that's all there is." The story will end, and you can put them on your shelf like an old (absurd, bizarre, ostentatious) series of novels. I have no interest in Metal Gear without Kojima. It may as well not exist.

I'm also excited to see Kojima thrive outside of Metal Gear. One of the tragedies of this industry is that successful creators get tied to mega-franchises for years on end, something that has worsened with huge production budgets creating the "need" for insanely high returns. I can't wait to see Kojima's work after Snake is put to rest. After all, this man has had a hand in Policenauts, Zone on the Enders and Boktai, among others -- I'm quite ready for more.
 
Seems a bit pety to remove his name and such. If the company is changing, fine but let things roll until the game is done and released then move on, thanks for your talents, best of luck in the future etc. it's like they want the glory and are just being scummy.

That is something of a longstanding company policy. The director/creator of the Suikoden series did not get credited as the director of Suikoden III because he left the company after he finished it, but before the game was released.
 

Neff

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So I've been reading more into this, The whole studio is leaving? Really?

Quite likely that Kojima is going to set up his own production company with some of his producers and give key members of his team a job.
 

ArcLyte

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wow, fuck konami. kojima was the only asset they had, and they just squandered that relationship. and thanks for killing MGS, you rat fucks.
 
Wow.

I wonder if that means Phantom Pain will be a bit of a shit show?

wow, fuck konami. kojima was the only asset they had, and they just squandered that relationship. and thanks for killing MGS, you rat fucks.

Maybe...or maybe KojiPro are tough to work with?

I'm betting it could go either way.
 

Xpliskin

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Sad thing is that they're under a contract, they can't speak out or they may be eligible to get fired/sued.

I hope more anonymous sources speak up.
 
They worked on the game for over 5 years, created a brand new engine for them and now they don't even get mentioned? Konami acts like Kojima and his team don't exist. It's fucking disrespectful.

I wasn't aware they ripped the credits out of the game, just took Kojima's name off the logo treatment. But what am I saying, respect! RIGHT! Of course! Fucking shit, hey hundreds of people who worked on this for five years, you're all pretty much fired when this is done, but don't worry we're totally respectful, we'll keep that one guy who's a millionaire's name on the logo. So with that, being all respectful and all, fuck all of you.

Seriously, Kojima's name being taken off the the logo is such a nonstarter. And makes sense business wise, you don't put a soon to be competitor's name before the title of your product that you then go on to spend money marketing across the world which adds to said competitor's brand recognition at your expense.
 

cabletime

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but MGO is basically dead on arrival unless they plan on keeping the LA team around

i get the argument that konami is moving away from gaming, but it's obviously some really really poor planing on their part if that's the case. they spend who knows how many millions of dollars to develop an engine capable of delivering cross-gen, multiplatform games. they open an studio in LA, etc etc....only to just give it up? really?



me too please

me too please
 
Wow.

I wonder if that means Phantom Pain will be a bit of a shit show?

Too late for it to be made bad because of this man. It will be the same masterpiece it was always going to be, just with some stupid censorship on the man's name.

You got yourself into making sure our avatars look awesome?

Can I have one too please?

I guess this equipment isn't OSP...

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Well if this truly is the end then they should say fuck it and use the MGS theme and end on a high note.

I wish, but Konami breathing down their throats would prevent them. Not to mention the people who sued against it in the first place.
 

Boke1879

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So if it's mostly done...so weird. What the fuck could they be warring about?

Konami and Kojima have been at odds for years if I remember. Don't know all the details but I've always heard stories of him and management not seeing eye to eye.

You're right though. This is weird. What was the LAST straw? I mean they gave this man his own studio and let him create another one in LA. They created their own proprietary engine and he was basically the face of the company.
 
Money...always money.

So Kojima and KojiPro want more money than what Konami is willing to give them?

I suppose that might be it. I suppose they will try to keep this completely under wraps until WELL after the launch.


Konami and Kojima have been at odds for years if I remember. Don't know all the details but I've always heard stories of him and management not seeing eye to eye.

You're right though. This is weird. What was the LAST straw? I mean they gave this man his own studio and let him create another one in LA. They created their own proprietary engine and he was basically the face of the company.


Yeah. The guy is basically all Konami has left at this point. I am wildly curious about what it could be to make Konami say, "Fuck it!" and just cut the cord. Maybe some sort of morality clause type issue?
 

Mandoric

Banned
So if it's mostly done...so weird. What the fuck could they be warring about?

The candidates are basically "Konami won't fund any side projects without more MGS but Kojima wants out", "Konami won't fund any more side projects full stop so Kojima wants out", or "Konami wants out of AAA".
 

Xiraiya

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So if it's mostly done...so weird. What the fuck could they be warring about?

Kojima Productions were more or less the face of Konami and have been gaining popularity pretty consistently for years along with Kojima being given more and more power in the company.

I guess Konami don't like that, so they're removing the "Kojima Mask". But alas it is too late as they no longer possess a face underneath to call their own.
 
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Deleted member 80556

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I wonder if this is what happened to Ueda at Sony, too...

Pretty sure it was Sony Japan's bad management and SCE wanting a damn game from them. Not wanting to go mobile or not liking Ueda. Heck, Shu has always backed Ueda.
 
This news makes me kinda sad. Its certainly my favorite game series. Just finished up mgs4 again after running through all the games in the series again.

Feels weird, man. Videogames are weird these days.
 

TheBoss1

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Wow... Will reserve judgement until more details are provided. MGS is probably the one title that's kept me in gaming. Life must go on right?
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Åesop

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I am ready for war .. (ง ͠° ͟ʖ ͡°)ง

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