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Gamespot: Our complete list of 10/10 reviews and how they're decided
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zero shift
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Great game? Definitely. "10/10"? No.
Northeastmonk
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I respect their perfect scores, but I'm also from the generation that took Famitsu's perfect scores to heart.
They aren't necessarily the same thing because western journalist tend to weigh in a different mindset IMO. I felt that FFXII deserved a perfect score, OOT, and a few other games.
I'm happy that MGSV did well and that we didn't see this sudden decrease in over all appreciation of Japanese games period.
I'm not quite sure if most news agencies would agree with Famitsu and their 4 person-10 point score 40/40 review system. I think it is wise to have more than 1 person reviewing games. I remember listening to Jeff Gerstmann talk about Chrono Cross receiving the perfect score and yes we all had mix views about it. I had it on launch and enjoyed it, but that's because it was the sequel to Chrono Trigger. Years later, and this has been said in the thread, that game had nothing else to compare it to.
If you stack games up side by side, each game out does the last one, which in some cases isn't the point. Zelda:OOT had some things about it that not every other title did and I can definitely say FFXII has done better in many different ways than a lot of other entries have.
Perfect 10's says a lot when you're use to seeing 7's or 8's. Even Polygon's 6.5 is enough to think something is up with how games are scored by a wide audience. A perfect 10 shows a game is good even if it's really a solid 8.5 or a 9. I just tend to think the person reviewing it had a good time versus "OMG THIS WILL CHANGE EVERYBODY'S MIND".
They aren't necessarily the same thing because western journalist tend to weigh in a different mindset IMO. I felt that FFXII deserved a perfect score, OOT, and a few other games.
I'm happy that MGSV did well and that we didn't see this sudden decrease in over all appreciation of Japanese games period.
I'm not quite sure if most news agencies would agree with Famitsu and their 4 person-10 point score 40/40 review system. I think it is wise to have more than 1 person reviewing games. I remember listening to Jeff Gerstmann talk about Chrono Cross receiving the perfect score and yes we all had mix views about it. I had it on launch and enjoyed it, but that's because it was the sequel to Chrono Trigger. Years later, and this has been said in the thread, that game had nothing else to compare it to.
If you stack games up side by side, each game out does the last one, which in some cases isn't the point. Zelda:OOT had some things about it that not every other title did and I can definitely say FFXII has done better in many different ways than a lot of other entries have.
Perfect 10's says a lot when you're use to seeing 7's or 8's. Even Polygon's 6.5 is enough to think something is up with how games are scored by a wide audience. A perfect 10 shows a game is good even if it's really a solid 8.5 or a 9. I just tend to think the person reviewing it had a good time versus "OMG THIS WILL CHANGE EVERYBODY'S MIND".
One half-step forward with the gunplay, two steps back with the car handling.
Rockstar didn't make fun combat until Red Dead. Snap-on aiming on the PS2 games was always the worst part of it, but GTA IV doesn't really improve it that much.
Also, standards for third-person combat had advanced well ahead of GTA IV by 2008, so it felt even further behind for its time than the PS2 games did.
I personally would give Majora's Mask a 10/10 over OoT, but I won't argue it's a masterpiece.
Soulcalibur was fun, but mechanically speaking SCII - SCV exceed it IMO.
Can't remember any of the Tony Hawk games very well.
GTA IV was probably one of the biggest overreactions on this list. Definitely not as fun as the PS2 games.
Bayonetta 2 was worse than the original, and the original was held back by some unfortunate design choices. 9+ sure, for both, but I don't think they are truly 10/10 worthy.
I thought Journey was pretty damn overrated, it was beautiful, but it left me wishing it had been longer.
Soulcalibur was fun, but mechanically speaking SCII - SCV exceed it IMO.
Can't remember any of the Tony Hawk games very well.
GTA IV was probably one of the biggest overreactions on this list. Definitely not as fun as the PS2 games.
Bayonetta 2 was worse than the original, and the original was held back by some unfortunate design choices. 9+ sure, for both, but I don't think they are truly 10/10 worthy.
I thought Journey was pretty damn overrated, it was beautiful, but it left me wishing it had been longer.
The Albatross
Member
I'd pick Tony Hawk 2 over Tony Hawk 3. And GTAIV is just a game that didn't hold up against greater scrutiny, and didn't hold up over time, but was still great when it came out. Definitely had a lot of 'wow' moments, that years later the game is easy to see through.
Making it longer sure seems like the best way to ruin the game by killing its perfect pacing, to me.
It's the perfect length for playing in one sitting, as its meant to be.
I think they're scoring system is good but they don't use it that way at all. I hate to be the "omg paid reviews" guy but i truly believe famitsu scores are based on those and hype alone. The Demon's Souls fiasco really outed a lot of people.
Reptars Revenge
Member
Ocarina is the GOAT. I noticed that all my casual video game friends completed love GTA IV but everybody on the internet hates it. Biggest difference in opinion only rivaled by COD.
Kabuki Waq
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Poimandres
Member
I... Don't really like this list of 10's very much. I don't think Chrono, Bayo 2, SMG2, Tony 3, GTAIV belong and there are a bunch of omissions. With all of those, it kind of feels like "we didn't give a 10 to the last game in the series that actually deserved it, so here's a sympathy 10 for the sequel". But whatever, lists are gonna list.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
It was definitely 10/10 for the time that it came out in.
Poimandres
Member
GTAIV had super obvious flaws from day 1.
I looked it up, yeah, it's Dimitri Rascalov. I don't get what people see in Niko's story, it's typical Houser movie-ripoff nonsense, it's no better or worse than all the other Houser movie-ripoff nonsense stories.
When it comes to GTA, Houser has always put more effort into the supporting cast of characters than the actual main plot. GTA games have always been more about who you meet than what you do.
When did sleeping dogs come out? GTAIV had been criticized to hell and back by then.
Demitri?
ninjablade
Banned
zelda 00t
witcher 3
soul caliber
are the only games on that list i would consider 10s, i could see mario galaxy 2 being a 10 for me as well but never played it. don't get the hate for the witcher 3 combat, it shits on most open word game with similar combat, its not like you can button mash your way out in hard difficulties
witcher 3
soul caliber
are the only games on that list i would consider 10s, i could see mario galaxy 2 being a 10 for me as well but never played it. don't get the hate for the witcher 3 combat, it shits on most open word game with similar combat, its not like you can button mash your way out in hard difficulties
BibiMaghoo
Member
I would consider only one of those games (that I have played) to be a 10/10 game, and even only then because of its staggering levels of narrative fan service.
People also shit on GTAIV too much, the game was incredible at the time.
People also shit on GTAIV too much, the game was incredible at the time.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Hindsight is 20/20 after all.(I myself only literally got off the boat before I dropped the game, but I could understand why it's a 10/10.)
GTA III was incredible for its time, has aged poorly, and doesn't get shit on.
Maybe GTA IV gets shit on because it wasn't actually as incredible for its time as it was made out to be.
Khaos_Knight
Banned
lol
BibiMaghoo
Member
There were disappointing aspects to it granted, many of which were addressed in the DLC. These were very minor in comparison to the package we got, which was incredible. As was 3.
GeordieMark
Member
GTA IV was amazing at the time. I think Liberty City was the most realistic and gritty setting in the series so far. I enjoyed the story too, once it got going. I'm in agreement with the majority of that list.
brickarts295
Member
I'm surprise by the lack of Naughty Dog and Bethesda in this list.
Manmademan
Member
Soul Calibur was a good game but a MASSIVE step down from soul blade ps1 in the gameplay department.
Graphically it was light years past everything else including its own arcade version(!) But I was pretty pissed the actual game had half the content of the previous entry.
Gay Tony was cool, but Lost and the Damned was just more GTA IV. I was glad to see Trevor bash in Johnny Klebitz's head at the beginning of GTA V.
More_Badass
Member
God no. The last thing Witcher needs is arcadey action like Dragon's Dogma
SliceSabre
Banned
It always makes me feel good to see Chrono Cross get the respect it deserves.
ShooterMcGavin
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Dion Blaster
Member
GTA IV was boring as hell the day it came out
Slangblade
Member
Come on, Garbage though?
Bubba_Sparks
Member
Man, just seeing some of the older games listed here really brings me back. I used to browse Gamespot all the time due to guys like Greg Kasavin and Jeff Gertsmann! I loved their content and how they viewed things.
On the subject of 10 out of 10 games or even rating system, I'm not sure if it's something I agree with. I feel the body of the text should do the the talking, and by the end of it you should have an idea of what you're in for and if it's something you want.
On the subject of 10 out of 10 games or even rating system, I'm not sure if it's something I agree with. I feel the body of the text should do the the talking, and by the end of it you should have an idea of what you're in for and if it's something you want.
really?
RespectThySole
Member
OoT, The Witcher 3 and Soul Calibur are the only 10-worthy games on that list to me.
Sammy Samusu
Member
CTRL+F = Metroid Prime
"Arcadey"? Dragon's Dogma's combat is far more tactical and deep than The Witcher 3's combat could ever wish to be.
Guardian Monkey
Member
If there was one 10. This is still it. Yeah the graphics don't hold up great. There are a lot of play mechanics that are better now. But both of these quotes above nail it. Nothing like it before and paved the ways for years. Funny that he mentions the Matrix because the next game that does this again will probably be a vr game.
breakfuss
Member
Man, this. I will NEVER understand GTAIV's reception. Honestly the worst GTA I've played (started with 3). Didn't even bother to finish.
tearsintherain
Member
Interesting list, weird that there was such a huge gap between 2001 and 2008. Totally disagree with their 10/10 of Journey, Bayo 2, and GTA4 though.
I would have put Mass Effect 2, GTA5, TLOU, Arkham City, Fallout NV, AC4, and World of Warcraft in that list instead but I totally understand its all a subjective thing.
Still weird that there is such a big drought in their lists during the prime 360/ps3 years.
I would have put Mass Effect 2, GTA5, TLOU, Arkham City, Fallout NV, AC4, and World of Warcraft in that list instead but I totally understand its all a subjective thing.
Still weird that there is such a big drought in their lists during the prime 360/ps3 years.