Euler007
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That's like saying all impressions I've heard about David Koresh from the branch davidians have been very positive.
GamingTech - A Very Poor LCD Display / No Real HDR Support Switch 2 HDR, Tested On Display And In Docking Mode
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GigaBowser
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ahaha i arm to famous now i must go will bring GIGA reviews later
DenchDeckard
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Isn't this the guy who exposed sonys VRR issues? Or assisted in highlighting it?
I feel like he has a good idea.
How does the screen compare to the rog ally, does he say?
I feel like he has a good idea.
How does the screen compare to the rog ally, does he say?
Shaki12345
Banned
VRR has been fixed, Sony has confirmed. So, we should thank him.
The measurements in the video relate to HDR specifically, not to the quality of the image in general. If the reviewer wants to make the claim that it's a below average LCD screen in general, relative to other handheld screens, then that's going to have to backed up with actual data."Trust me bro" vs actual measurements.....
DenchDeckard
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Yup, solid dude!
Gambit2483
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Schmendrick
Banned
lol, if you have a low peak brightness and elevated black levels despite that you have garbage contrast values and simply a bad LCD screen, there is no putting a positive spin on that. Nintendo cheaped out to make more profit on the unit and ofc to sell you a proper OLED version later.
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Miyazaki’s Slave
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Have had zero complaints with the HDR in MKW and I don't have bleed on my lcd.
Am I using a high end display...yes.
Do I have a photographer grade dark room in my house…no.
Feels like ragebait is the only way these folks can make money on social media platforms.
Anyway…YMMV with your Switch 2 experience just like everything.
Am I using a high end display...yes.
Do I have a photographer grade dark room in my house…no.
Feels like ragebait is the only way these folks can make money on social media platforms.
Anyway…YMMV with your Switch 2 experience just like everything.
Gambit2483
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Apparently you can't make money on YouTube unless you're shitting on or complaining about something. I'm honestly getting sick of it from ALL sides of everything.
Senua
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diffusionx
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The people excusing this do not seem to understand that even cheap phones today have very good displays. The Steam Deck LCD's screen was also awful. The PS Portal seems to have a better screen which really shouldn't be the case. It seems like handheld gaming devices are now the dumping ground for cheap LCDs.
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LordOcidax
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How many devices have an LCD 1080p120fps HDR + Gsync screen in the market? Take your time…
cormack12
Gold Member
Yes I felt the Deck got a massive pass. When I started playing on it I was like wtf, this is like a dot matrix display. Gave it to the dog to play with.
Whenever you think Nintendo are going to deliver great hardware you're always disappointed. Just make your peace that you will get to play 2 gen old games at decent frame rates with maybe a res patch, and you want to because they are generally good games.
Senua
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The general Nintendo audience won't notice the difference, the only people they have to worry about are the nerds like us, but as you can see in this thread even supposed hardcore gamers are excusing it.
DenchDeckard
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Nah, we should discredit him because he's bringing us information we don't like
You know you're right.
Fuck this guy....as I wait for my switch 2 to arrive.
Zathalus
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The same one in the Steam Deck OLED. I used that as an example as it is the closest competitor in terms of hardware and screen size.
Bojji
Member
He is doing great HDR coverage. Pro patches as well.
Yeah. LCD without local dimming is a failed idea...
HDR is great with the right hardware.
Shaki12345
Banned
7 - 12$
GoldenEye98
posts news as their odd job
Actually this raises an interesting question for me. That Taki Udon guy has already offered OLED displays for Switch Lite and Switch 1. What's to say he couldn't do it here?...even before Nintendo.
Huge opportunity there for him imo. Also curious how Nintendo would respond. Could they do anything legal(threaten suppliers?) or might it push them to release an OLED model sooner.
Huge opportunity there for him imo. Also curious how Nintendo would respond. Could they do anything legal(threaten suppliers?) or might it push them to release an OLED model sooner.
Contrast isn't the only metric of a screen's quality. There are also viewing angles, colour accuracy, uniformity and response time to consider.
But even if we only care about contrast, the comparison should be with other handheld LCD screens, if we're making the claim that the Switch 2's screen is below average even for an LCD. So do we have comparable data, that suggests that the Switch 2 screen's contrast values are poor even relative to the Rog Ally, say?
nowhat
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SomeNorseGuy
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Are anyone really suprised at Ninty going the cheap route. It's been their MO for decades now. Just too bad their savings didn't trickle down to the consumers.
As my portable machines get the most use during the summer, out on the porch, I was really hoping for better brightness.
But not everyone will care all that much and hopefully they'll release a lot of banger exclusives to justify people's purchases.
If I ever end up buying a Switch 2 down the line this game is definitely on the short-list.
As my portable machines get the most use during the summer, out on the porch, I was really hoping for better brightness.
But not everyone will care all that much and hopefully they'll release a lot of banger exclusives to justify people's purchases.
If I ever end up buying a Switch 2 down the line this game is definitely on the short-list.
Astray
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Expected result from the moment we found out it was an LCD IPS tbh.
HDR is difficult to do on a non-OLED without some sort of miniLED solution (which would have likely been expensive and power-hungry, so not fit for purpose here).
HDR is difficult to do on a non-OLED without some sort of miniLED solution (which would have likely been expensive and power-hungry, so not fit for purpose here).
DF guys don't know anything lol.
nowhat
Member
OK, just admit it. You're just an experiment from a fringe AI company, testing out how messed your output can be and people will still take you semi-seriously, right? Surely no human produced this output.
Schmendrick
Banned
If the contrast is bad the rest of the metrics can't save anything because the picture will always be flat. The rest of the metrics can make things worse but not better. It also doesn't matter if some other handhelds have similarly bad screens when we've had great fald LCDs and oled screens for years . Bad is just bad.
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Of course OLED will come later for $500.
Of course it matters, because the Switch 2 is competing against other handheld devices, not against TVs or monitors! (And yes, you can of course get portable OLED screens, but you also pay more for them).
If the thread and YouTube title was "Switch 2's screen is comparable to other portable LCDs, but behind OLEDs" I bet the coverage in this thread would have been a lot more positive. It's just that people see "Very Poor LCD" and obviously assume that Nintendo picked the worst LCD possible.
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Tams
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That's not how markets work.
There are plenty of OLED panels around 6" with certain specs as there is high demand for them.
Then there are things like what yields manufacturers can get from panels. Remember when laptops and monitors almost all had 16:9 displays? That's because display manufacturers could get more panels out of a mother panel at that aspect ratio. It ended up self-fulfilling, as more supply lowered the price of 16:9 panels.
You can see that now.
One of the PC case manufacturers added a curved display to an AIO cooler. It was just a repurposed phone display, replete with hole punch, as a custom one would have been too expensive.
Then there are the 8" tablets that are comparable. Both Lenovo's Legion and Apple's Mini are expensive, partly because they use high quality displays that aren't in demand really anywhere else. So Lenovo and Apple have to pay more.
S0ULZB0URNE
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The LG OLED guy.
Yeah not worth the click.
Yeah not worth the click.
Unknown?
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Yeah thousands of casuals impressed by over saturated TVs at Best Buy's display section.
Insane Metal
Member
Oh no, LCD screens are shit.
On other news, water is wet.
On other news, water is wet.
saintjules
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What would dropping the price do? Magically make the Switch 2 better in design and performance?
Ar¢tos
Member
So about 200$ per unit?
$338 is the (reported) manufacturing cost per unit. Then to work out the profit margin you have to add on shipping and the retailer cut.
Bojji
Member
He could be "Sony mini led" guy and this wouldn't change a thing.
This screen is 450nits LCD without any form of local dimming - fake HDR basically. Piece of shit.
diffusionx
Gold Member
I don't know, but is that stuff worth the issues discussed?How many devices have an LCD 1080p120fps HDR + Gsync screen in the market? Take your time…
about three fiddy
Ar¢tos
Member
338$ is the value Nintendo declares per unit for customs, not necessarily the price per unit for manufacturing + logistics.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
At least fast fusion is good. That's a day 1 purchase for me whenever I get the damn console