GamingTech - A Very Poor LCD Display / No Real HDR Support Switch 2 HDR, Tested On Display And In Docking Mode

Unknown Soldier said:
I don't think it's as bad as he makes it sound, but it certainly has issues

I have little doubt that it is being limited to 450 nits peak brightness simply to save the battery life. It's a pretty standard LCD display without local dimming or mini-LED's so it was never going to achieve very high brightness without killing the portable playtime. I'm not super worried about the peak brightness, I don't need a laser burning a hole in my retina when I look at my Switch 2 display

The bigger issue is that it has relatively poor color gamut, if Nintendo puts an HDR option for portable mode play, the display ought to be able to display a better than SDR gamut and this display clearly cannot

The color temperature of the display is extremely far away from D65 (6500K), I've seen some people measuring it around 9000K which results in a noticeably cold (blue-tinted) image compared to the Switch 1 display sitting next to my Switch 2 and my calibrated home theater TV
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Interesting point about the colour gamut. I'm not as sensitive to this which is why I probably haven't noticed it. It's not a perfect display even lacking to the oled switch 1 on some ways (colour gamut?) but it looks good to my eyes.
 
Gambit2483 said:
Exactly. Notice how 90% of the people here complaining don't even have the system
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I considered paying the $650 off StockX, but I can wait a bit longer myself. It does annoy me that I did everything I could and didn't get lucky. Tried with Nintendo's pre-order, met all conditions, and didn't get in, and stayed up to midnight for Walmart/Target/Best Buy, experience all the frustration and none of the success.

I do have the Ally X, which is a similar screen, 1080p LCD VRR, and I'm not a huge fan of that screen myself. Having the device wouldn't make me any less likely to talk shit about it. The first thing I noticed instantly upon booting up the Ally X was how bad the backlight bleed was on it, terrible first impression for me. I know in advance Switch 2 isn't going to be any better in that regard, so hopefully that lessens the blow, or perhaps the laminated screen which supposedly helps the blacks will be an improvement, but I'm not counting on it, with all the people posting the blacks don't compare to OLED.
 
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Gambit2483 said:
Exactly. Notice how 90% of the people here complaining don't even have the system
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You are going to see the same people on every negative Switch 2 thread 😂. The best part is to read their comment history, fascinating.
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Lol, bought one yesterday on a whim, screen is great, console is great. It's not a power house by any means but it's exactly what I expected from Nintendo problem I have now is time between my PS5 pro, PC, steam deck and new switch.
 
The screen seems fine to me, but I think this guy would have made his point more effectively if he had compared Switch 2 to other handhelds including Switch 1 (non-OLED).
 
LordOcidax said:
Yes is 2017 all over again… And all my friends that have the console in their hands praising the screen 😂
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For "lived in the Nintendo Hut" it is LordOcidax ignoring everyone with a Switch 2 and with less than epic praise for the screen :P.

In the bingo card we have "look at how it sold" to move goalposts ;).
 
Panajev2001a said:
For "lived in the Nintendo Hut" it is LordOcidax ignoring everyone with a Switch 2 and with less than epic praise for the screen :P.

In the bingo card we have "look at how it sold" to move goalposts ;).
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Already preparing for crying in that thread too? 😂… The Switch 2 success is going to be a long journey for some of you.
 
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LordOcidax said:
You are going to see the same people on every negative Switch 2 thread 😂. The best part is to read their comment history, fascinating.
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You will also see the same Nintendo cucks who worship anything Nintendo does. Nintendo could shit in a box and I swear some of you would buy it. Let's not pretend there isn't ravenous Nintendo special kids on the board.
 
Gamer79 said:
You will also see the same Nintendo cucks who worship anything Nintendo does. Nintendo could shit in a box and I swear some of you would buy it. Let's not pretend there isn't ravenous Nintendo special kids on the board.
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At least we are not the ones hating on things that others people enjoy…
 
DeepEnigma said:
All that prerelease marketing hype just to have to turn it off.
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What annoys me most is how some here cannot take legit criticism of the device. I own the Switch 2, I think it's decent for the price and is a real nice spec bump over the Switch 1, but it is clear the LCD screen is mediocre and a poor fit for HDR. Not dogshit or anything hyperbolic like that, just mediocre. Apparently pointing that out is sacrilegious to some.
 
LordOcidax said:
At least we are not the ones hating on things that others people enjoy…
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No but you are biting your nose to spite your face.

What do you think supporting Nintendo's greedy practice do to you?

If it's successful, it will only encourage other developers and other publishers to raise prices. It will set a new precedence on pricing structure for the whole industry.

So in other words, you supporting this makes gaming worse for all of us. Thank you jerk
 
Killer8 said:
I do use HGIG for most games where I can. The compromise on Switch 2 of having HGIG with maxed out brightness in the system settings was preferable to just using DTM by default to me. DTM and settings like black stabilizer and FTDA can save some games with badly implemented HDR but I wouldn't use it all the time either.

But the real takeaway is that HDR gaming sucks and has a ton of problems so I don't think there should be any hard and fast rules to fix them. I've used this guy's channel a bunch of times for individual game settings because the problems run far and wide.

We have games with uncapped brightness, or too low peak brightness (RE Village at 400 nits on PS5), gamma mismatch issues, wrong color gamuts, games which use HGIG, most which don't or on Windows flat out ignore the color profile, many games have no settings whatsoever, settings are confusing ('brightness' on LG = contrast as its traditionally interpreted, or laymen thinking wtf does "paper white" do)...

At the end of the day creative intent has been taking a backseat anyway, because nobody seems able to come up with a foolproof solution to getting good, universal HDR quality for everyone. HGIG was meant to be it but then developers just ignore the damn system setting.

That's my rant for the day.
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Agree with what you say but the fact is that a good HDR implementation can have transformative effects on a game's visual.

I recently played dead space in HDR in the complete dark and let me tell you, it is spectacular. Such a shame so many games have poor or no implementation of it
 
Panajev2001a said:
One can enjoy their Switch 2 and be objective, you could try it sometimes ;).
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Yep, sales data have nothing to do with quality of the device. Most "common folks" tolerate low quality LCD screens, they won't really complain. I can't really use something like that after ~15 years of owning OLED phones

I was somewhat interested in the console but now thanks to the info about screen I will just wait for OLED revision.
 
Gamer79 said:
No but you are biting your nose to spite your face.

What do you think supporting Nintendo's greedy practice do to you?

If it's successful, it will only encourage other developers and other publishers to raise prices. It will set a new precedence on pricing structure for the whole industry.

So in other words, you supporting this makes gaming worse for all of us. Thank you jerk
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So, you are admitting that Nintendo is the market leader now… Interesting.

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Flabagast said:
Agree with what you say but the fact is that a good HDR implementation can have transformative effects on a game's visual.

I recently played dead space in HDR in the complete dark and let me tell you, it is spectacular. Such a shame so many games have poor or no implementation of it
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Helldivers 2 is fantastic as well. Especially with all of the explosions going on.

Another standout one was Housemarque's Nex Machina. HDR eyegasm.
 
Gamer79 said:
No but you are biting your nose to spite your face.

What do you think supporting Nintendo's greedy practice do to you?

If it's successful, it will only encourage other developers and other publishers to raise prices. It will set a new precedence on pricing structure for the whole industry.

So in other words, you supporting this makes gaming worse for all of us. Thank you jerk
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I've spent $1,500 on supporting this launch and I feel fantastic about it!
 
DeepEnigma said:
Bro, I did not link to that one post. You have plenty jumping into threads and throwing shade and bait.

Fuck off if you can't have a little humility and walk around holier than thou. Retard.
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Having a discussion is not the same as entering an all the *Switch 2 threads with an agenda 😉.

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LordOcidax said:
Having a discussion is not the same as entering an all the threads with an agenda 😉.

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Ninja, please! Way too much hubris for a fucking nerd.

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Opinion News  Post in thread 'Astro Bot was so good it almost "outdid Nintendo at its own game", says former Nintendo of America president Reggie Fils-Aimé'

Imagine to be a Sony fanboy that always hated on Mario games and now the best game on their Sony console is a Mario clone… And on top of that still criticizing Mario 🤣, is just hilarious, but is good that Sony fans taste what Nintendo consoles have for decades, i just hope that people talks with their wallets an support the game.
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DeepEnigma said:
Ninja, please! Way too much hubris for a fucking nerd.

LordOcidax

Opinion News  Post in thread 'Astro Bot was so good it almost "outdid Nintendo at its own game", says former Nintendo of America president Reggie Fils-Aimé'

Imagine to be a Sony fanboy that always hated on Mario games and now the best game on their Sony console is a Mario clone… And on top of that still criticizing Mario 🤣, is just hilarious, but is good that Sony fans taste what Nintendo consoles have for decades, i just hope that people talks with their wallets an support the game.
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I love Astro Bot, and is a Mario clone… I am just pointing a fact 😂. Even the devs thanks Mario at the games awards… Where's the hate?

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fallingdove said:
Oh come on. That happens in literally every thread on this site. Debating the value and purpose of video games is central to Neogaf. Anything else would be a pointless circle jerk between you and your plumber pals.
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Almost everybody here knows that the LCD screen on the Switch 2 doesn't have the same quality as an OLED screen, that's obvious… but saying that the screen is pure trash is just Trolling.
 
DeepEnigma said:
You entered "with an agenda." You're as retarded and as cringe as the rest of us. That was one of many examples of the autism scale we all share being here.
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"I am not entering threads with an agenda and troll the game" … proceeds to enter Astro Bot's threads and call the game a "Mario clone".

When called out on that he replied "The devs thanked Mario for being an inspiration"… Inspiration != being a Mario clone but the best bit is that what people are calling out is the desire to be negative and put down anything that is not Nintendo. Pretending not to understand that calling a game a Mario clone is not praising the game (but taking a thread celebrating something not Nintendo to make sure the focus goes back to Mario) is funny though ;).
 
Panajev2001a said:
"I am not entering threads with an agenda and troll the game" … proceeds to enter Astro Bot's threads and call the game a "Mario clone".

When called out on that he replied "The devs thanked Mario for being an inspiration"… Inspiration != being a Mario clone but the best bit is that what people are calling out is the desire to be negative and put down anything that is not Nintendo. Pretending not to understand that calling a game a Mario clone is not praising the game (but taking a thread celebrating something not Nintendo to make sure the focus goes back to Mario) is funny though ;).
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GigaBowser said:
they think cry on switch forum thread they will stop sales and aaa game OOHOOHOOHOO

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