George R.R. Martin may be hinting that an Elden Ring movie or TV series is in the works
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winjer
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If when he released A game of Thrones, there was a disclaimer saying that he would never finish the saga, almost no one would have bought his books.
And no one would have cared to make a show about them.
He made a fortune, selling books and rights, under the assumption that he would complete his saga.
We have the all the right to be critical of him, for not finishing the books.
Avid Reading Horse
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Ctrl+F'd Winds of Winter (May 21 entry) and realized he's gonna fall behind on Dunk & Egg shorts and the TV production is gonna outpace that shit too.
If you could go back in time and erase either Hitler, or GRRM from the timeline... who do you choose? I choose GRRM. Now hear me out. Get rid of him, and ya just don't get this uncompleted disaster of an HBO show that traumatized an entire planet. WW2 only involved the majority of the world. Spain for example was neutral in WW2, but I'm guessing GoT hit them just the same.
I'd dump the unfinished Westeros trash in favor of just Spielberg's WW2 related catalog, let alone all the other shit! Even COD's roots are WW2. From a pure content perspective Hitler has GRRM licked, and had a complete story arc.
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CliffyB's Cock Holster
No. You do not.
Plans change when life gets in the way. Shit just happens. Like I said, stop treating individuals like corporations or institutions.
Seriously, you cannot think because you like somebody's work it makes them personally beholden to you?
winjer
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Plans didn't change because he was a victim of external forces, that harmed his productivity.
He choose to screw around with so many other projects and pause his books.
We paid for his work, and he half delivered it. So, yes we have the right to criticize him.
Had we known he would do this, most of us would not have bought his books. And he would not have made so much money.
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E-Cat
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There's no such thing, it's just another word for procrastination.
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CliffyB's Cock Holster
You got what you paid for. Why you paid, and what expectations you had are are completely irrelevant to anybody other than you.
Sorry, but you appear to have unrealistic expectations of what the price of a book buys you.
winjer
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The expectations of him finishing his books is a reasonable one. And this is what everyone expected from him when we started buying his books.
Had we all known he would not finish them, most of us would not have bought his books.
It has never been unreasonable, for people to expect a book saga to be finished.
And for that, he deserves the criticisms that so many of us have pointed out.
kondorBonk
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A Dark Souls//Elden Ring movie would be great but you would need a good director. Like the games, the main character is the environment itself. Allow the set pieces to help tell the story and allow it to fully embrace that dark fantasy splendor.
A near silent protagonist would be ideal. Take a note from George Miller and leave dialog to an absolute bare minimum. Show, don't tell.
A near silent protagonist would be ideal. Take a note from George Miller and leave dialog to an absolute bare minimum. Show, don't tell.
AJUMP23
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I really don't see how you make these games a movie or TV show. I do like the idea of an anime. But I just don't know how you capture the feeling of the game in another form of media. The games are unique to me in there narrative and presentation. You seem to stumble across everything.
Maybe you could have a movie about a guy using a guide to figure out what to do next.
Maybe you could have a movie about a guy using a guide to figure out what to do next.
FoxMcChief
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Yup.
We are living in the timeline where D&D's ending of the the A Song of Ice and Fire/ Game of Thrones is the only one that will exist.
Jinzo Prime
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Director Robert Eggers, art direction Guillermo del Toro. Day one.
I think he would've finished the books by now if there had been no TV series and all the many distractions and fame that came along with it. The other possible issue is a loss of motivation since some of the major secrets and some version of the ending have been revealed by the show. I remember him saying him saying he didn't want to do Robert's Rebellion because everyone already knew how that played out.
SlimeGooGoo
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IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
I hate to say this, but I don't think he'll finish it.
He's 75 and Winds has taken so far just over 13 years with no release in site. He then has Dream to write. How long will take take? Another decade or more? I started reading ASOIAF when I was 15 and could be a grandfather by the time it's finished, if it's finished at all.
It's too late now, but what the George needed was a very strict publisher to keep him to deadlines. Douglas Adams was also a slow writer, but for his 4th book his publisher basically locked him in a hotel room and had somebody watch him until h finished the book. Sounds harsh, but it worked. George needed the same treatment.
Mercador
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I think he really tried to make it happen before the show even started but once the show went on with non-novel stuff, he just let it go. We'll see. Perhaps Brandon Sanderson will finish another Fantasy series
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He did a pretty good job. I was satisfied. Except for Mat. He just felt off.I think he really tried to make it happen before the show even started but once the show went on with non-novel stuff, he just let it go. We'll see. Perhaps Brandon Sanderson will finish another Fantasy series
Danjin44
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One way to do it is to make the story takes before the shattering and see Marika's story to her godhood.
Arachnid
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13 years, Fucking textbooks for PhD level classes are written in less time. ASOIAF is complex, but not 13 years complex. Dude could have written 100 pages a YEAR, and we'd have nearly two books by now. He's out here writing and producing for literally anything else. Fuck him and Rothfuss.
Lunarorbit
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No. Grrm has mocked his readers and fans for more than a decade about the release of his books. He's a complete dickhead.
Cares more about football posts on his website than finishing his commitment. Instead of being honest about his struggles he fired his editor 10 years ago and continues to drip feed a chapter every 5 years.
He absolutely owes his fans the ending. He got rich from this series and it made him. He toiled for years as a screenwriter avs Sci fi editor and no one gave a shit
POKEYCLYDE
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Wonder if it will be a comedy like the Elden Ring manga.
NecrosaroIII
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Lord of the Rings took 15 years to write. The Silmarillion took the authors entire life and even then it wasnt finished.
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
Huge difference here.
First, Tolkien never originally intended for the Hobbit to have a sequel or be part of his Middle-earth lore. It was only when the publisher requested a sequel that he had the idea of folding the Hobbit into Middle-earth. There wasn't millions of people waiting or expecting a sequel to the Hobbit.
Another point, unlike George Martin, Tolkien had a job as a professor at Oxford University. A job that would have taken up a considerable amount of his time. He was still a professor when he was writing LotR and didn't retire until 1959.
The Silmarillion is completely different. It's a collection of stories of Middle-earth that Tolkien had been writing for decades. However, he never originally intended to have these stories published and his Middle-earth lore was a passionate hobby, similar to a starting a model railway or painting for fun.
JohnnyTropics
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To the people in here critical of GRRM: have you ever actually created something?
It's not a conscious process where one sits down and activates creativity.
The best way to describe it is the mind is like an antenna, and you receive something that already exists but becomes yours to borrow and present.
When it's something no one has thought of, it just... flows. From somewhere else.
But now you, your neighbor, GRRMs publisher, and everyone else... sort of... owns Game of Thrones.
There's nothing to channel from anymore... that place where ideas come from... It's already been mass channeled, and exists in the material as the HBO series.
Lol at being mad at him... you're the energy block bro, your antenna is tuned into that frequency--he doesn't own that channel anymore. It's public domain.
It's not a conscious process where one sits down and activates creativity.
The best way to describe it is the mind is like an antenna, and you receive something that already exists but becomes yours to borrow and present.
When it's something no one has thought of, it just... flows. From somewhere else.
But now you, your neighbor, GRRMs publisher, and everyone else... sort of... owns Game of Thrones.
There's nothing to channel from anymore... that place where ideas come from... It's already been mass channeled, and exists in the material as the HBO series.
Lol at being mad at him... you're the energy block bro, your antenna is tuned into that frequency--he doesn't own that channel anymore. It's public domain.