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[Hindl]

They'll pack in Mario or Splatoon or something by the holidays, but I would be flabbergasted if they drop the price in the first year.

Tbh I could see them packing in Zelda. No way will they bundle Mario, that's their big holiday game. Splatoon I could see, especially in Japan. But for either Splatoon or Zelda would've gotten most of their initial sales done by the holidays so they'd be good pack-in candidates. And if you can get the new Nintendo console, Mario, and Zelda for $360 that sounds alright.

But yeah holy shit are those accessory prices bad. I can't wait for a teardown of the doc, it's got good design but that thing can't cost more than $10 to build

 

[stump sock]

TR reboot games are better than UC.

 

[Mr. F]

Tbh I could see them packing in Zelda. No way will they bundle Mario, that's their big holiday game. Splatoon I could see, especially in Japan. But for either Splatoon or Zelda would've gotten most of their initial sales done by the holidays so they'd be good pack-in candidates. And if you can get the new Nintendo console, Mario, and Zelda for $360 that sounds alright.

But yeah holy shit are those accessory prices bad. I can't wait for a teardown of the doc, it's got good design but that thing can't cost more than $10 to build

It was pretty grim when they were running through the (USD) prices of the accessories during the GBeast stream, especially the pro controller. They'd never do it but for someone who doesn't give a fuck about amiibo integration in games it's frustrating to not have the option for a slightly more affordable controller without all the NFC tech (if that's one of the justifications for it being the price it is).

 

[A Fish Aficionado]

TR reboot games are better than UC.

Mechanically, yes.

 

[Hindl]

It was pretty grim when they were running through the (USD) prices of the accessories during the GBeast stream, especially the pro controller. They'd never do it but for someone who doesn't give a fuck about amiibo integration in games it's frustrating to not have the option for a slightly more affordable controller without all the NFC tech (if that's one of the justifications for it being the price it is).

Honestly I'm glad I live in the US. Those prices are bad and chances are shit like NFC and HD Rumble won't really be used, but $10 extra over a DS4 or XB1 controller isn't terrible. But man I've been reading the exchange rate threads here, and prices of the console are translating to up to $400 USD and accessories going over $100. Like no wonder Europe doesn't give a shit about Nintendo

 

[stump sock]

Mechanically, yes.

well I could also add that at least they have stories I don't care about vs stories I think suck.

 

[Teddified]

is that danny? if so they better do don bradman while he's there.

 

[Volotaire]

is that danny? if so they better to don bradman while he's there.

Hey hey yeh!

 

[Twin Tails]

Irishman

 

[silentg]

TR reboot are better games than UC.

Fixed.

Uncharted's writing and characterisation are superior.

 

[Teddified]

Something about the shooting in the new tomb raiders always felt off to me, I still enjoyed the games well enough but something just always felt weird.

 

[stump sock]

Something about the shooting in the new tomb raiders always felt off to me, I still enjoyed the games well enough but something just always felt weird.

I don't know, shooting someone with a shotgun so hard they lose 200% of their body's blood and they fly 30 yards feels pretty right to me.

 

[robotrock]

Something about the shooting in the new tomb raiders always felt off to me, I still enjoyed the games well enough but something just always felt weird.

dude the shooting in those games is the best part

 

[Teddified]

I don't know, shooting someone with a shotgun so hard they lose 200% of their body's blood and they fly 30 yards feels pretty right to me.

dude the shooting in those games is the best part

Sure I just don't know if it's like where the character stands so it doesn't seem like it's aiming right, I dunno it's been too long for me to remember exactly.

 

[robotrock]

holy shit...danny looks like a fucking badass now

 

[oti]

Beard Danny looks weird. But I like it.

 

[Curufinwe]

TR reboot games are better than UC.

Not with all the input lag and pointless Ubisoft open world crap.

 

[Sleeping Lesson]

dude the shooting in those games is the best part

Especially compared to Uncharted, where the shooting is awful and enemies take an absurd number of bullets to take down.

 

[Zornack]

"Beard"

 

[robotrock]

Not with all the input lag and pointless Ubisoft open world crap.

You can ignore the side stuff, it's fine. input lag is there on the xbone version, sure, but I played on PC and I don't remember it having much of that. Does the PS4 version have a significant amount of input lag?

 

[Curufinwe]

It had it, then they patched it, then it came back in, they they patched it out again.

That feeling when they read emails on the Beastcast and you hear "This email comes from [your name] and he has written about [your subject]" just to find out that it's somebody else's email. Fuck you other John. I hope you burn in hell.

I send all my emails in under my Gertrude Perkins pseudonym so I avoid that potential problem.

 

[Curufinwe]

Especially compared to Uncharted, where the shooting is awful and enemies take an absurd number of bullets to take down.

Your aiming must be awful because I have no problem being accurate and taking down enemies quickly in Uncharted games, especially 4.

Reminds me of Jeff not liking RE4 because he can't aim properly.

 

[stump sock]

sony first party game called into question, thank god the hockey man is here to set things straight for us all

 

[Zaph]

google alerts was a mistake

 

[Piston Hyundai]

sony first party game called into question, thank god the hockey man is here to set things straight for us all

it's like the bat signal for him

and that's Sean Couturier, you fucking philistine

 

[robotrock]

Sleeping Lesson, I don't think your aiming is awful. I have god-tier aiming skills and even I feel unsatisfied shooting in Uncharted games.

 

[Sleeping Lesson]

Your aiming must be awful because I have no problem being accurate and taking down enemies quickly in Uncharted games, especially 4.

Reminds me of Jeff not liking RE4 because he can't aim properly.

You have to play it with a controller so by default the shooting is bad.

Spoiler

I don't mean that but I still think Tomb Raider is better in that regard.

Sleeping Lesson, I don't think your aiming is awful. I have god-tier aiming skills and even I feel unsatisfied shooting in Uncharted games.

I mean, I'm not denying that I am terrible at aiming with a dual analog gamepad. But still.

 

[Volotaire]

You have to play it with a controller so by default the shooting is bad.

High five.

 

[Zaph]

Good news:

Bad news:

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[Chuck]

Shooting in Uncharted is great, why are we talking about Uncharted shooting.

 

[Strax]

shout out to all the pear

 

[robotrock]

shout out to all the pear

Why did I think Rick Ross was 60

 

[LiK]

Damn, they're doing the full Yakuza series. A thousand hours of content from the Beast coast already. They're long games especially if you do all the sidequests.

West coast better step up.

 

[Sleeping Lesson]

I actually didn't play Uncharted 4, so I have no idea if they made changes. I remember they added an alternate aiming mode to Uncharted 3 and neither of them felt right to me.

 

[LiK]

I actually didn't play Uncharted 4, so I have no idea if they made changes. I remember they added an alternate aiming mode to Uncharted 3 and neither of them felt right to me.

Uncharted 4 shooting was fine. Better than UC3.

 

[Mr. F]

Honestly I'm glad I live in the US. Those prices are bad and chances are shit like NFC and HD Rumble won't really be used, but $10 extra over a DS4 or XB1 controller isn't terrible. But man I've been reading the exchange rate threads here, and prices of the console are translating to up to $400 USD and accessories going over $100. Like no wonder Europe doesn't give a shit about Nintendo

It's brutal, in Canada after tax the Pro controller is a wonderful $101 (in Ontario). Buying 2 JoyCons together is $112. Shit adds up quick.

 

[Sleeping Lesson]

Uncharted 4 shooting was fine. Better than UC3.

Cool. Someday I'll get to play it.

 

[Joeku]

Pretty sure he meant gameplay wise. Don't forget, he's Brad. if there is busy work to do, stuff to craft or things to collect, he likes it. No matter how pointless it all is.

Considering how he blanketed the generic-as-fuck direct to DVD ending cutscenes in praise, I disagree. He believed the story and cutscenes were better than Uncharted.

And for as fucking trite as Uncharted 4 is (in in many parts, it really is), it has a million times the heart that reboot Tomb Raider does. The only good thing the TR reboot series produced was an animalistic dodge move and that's only thing that contributed to the tone the reboot was actually trying to achieve with its weird The Descent via Arkham Asylum thing. The first one is a trainwreck of overreaching and shitty writing and the second is the biggest case of "Let's Ubisoft everything" I've seen. That scene near the end of RotTR where you

Spoiler

come up through a bunch of holes in ice and murder a bunch of dudes

actually weirdly reaches the predatory nature the first game was trying to reach, though.

 

[oti]

Considering how he blanketed the generic-as-fuck direct to DVD ending cutscenes in praise, I disagree. He believed the story and cutscenes were better than Uncharted.

And for as fucking trite as Uncharted 4 is (in in many parts, it really is), it has a million times the heart that reboot Tomb Raider does. The only good thing the TR reboot series produced was an animalistic dodge move and that's only thing that contributed to the tone the reboot was actually trying to achieve with its weird The Descent via Arkham Asylum thing.

I liked that the TR games tried to be different than Uncharted and succeeded in that. The tombs in ROTTR were pretty great too.

Overall I agree that Unchartred is far superior than those games. But Brad has bad opinions. So it makes sense.

 

[Joeku]

I liked that the TR games tried to be different than Uncharted and succeeded in that. The tombs in ROTTR were pretty great too.

Overall I agree that Unchartred is far superior than those games. But Brad has bad opinions. So it makes sense.

I will totally give you that some of the tombs in RotTR are pretty cool. Weird frozen ship in ice and stuff, yeah. Neat ways to bring back that giant clockwork puzzle stuff.

But the way that Tomb Raider tried to be different from Uncharted was by trying to bring in a bunch of pulpy horror elements into it, and that almost completely failed. The game attempted to devolve Lara into an animalistic survivalist while at the same time elevating her into a confident, thoughtful adventurer. It just doesn't work.

Edit: Also I'd just like to add that Rise of the Tomb Raider on XB1 was the first time I actually felt input lag in a game in a way that I was conscious of how it detracted from the experience. I remember it being pretty effing bad.

 

[Zaph]

Played through UC 1 to 4 over dec/jan for the first time. Catching up with the Sony exclusives I never played.

UC4 is a way better sequel than UC deserved. Like holy shit, those first 3 games were rough to get through - maybe you had to play them at the time? People made it sound like there was some arcing story through 1-3 that you should see to appreciate 4, but nothing in those 3 games felt developed enough to matter in 4. It was mostly about entirely new characters anyway. Playing it wasn't that fun, but looking at the insane fidelity they got out of a console (Pro), made up for it.

 

[oti]

I really don't get how people can be so surprised with Nintendo's focus on Wii gimmicks for Switch again. I made these predictions weeks before the event and this posts hours before it. If you were paying attention, nothing of this should be surprising to you.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=228171323&postcount=7285

 

[Piston Hyundai]

man, even with a guest it still feels like the Jeff & Brad Show

 

[funkystudent]

If Uncharted 4 didnt have that 3 hour slog at the start it would be a much better game.

Same with TLOU.


I really hope in TLOU2 they change that and it isnt just a Druckmann "thing".

 

[Joeku]

If Uncharted 4 didnt have that 3 hour slog at the start it would be a much better game.

Same with TLOU.


I really hope in TLOU2 they change that and it isnt just a Druckmann "thing".

While I kind of agree with you insofar as Uncharted 4 has slogs, the slogs are the unnecessary "gamey" parts; needless climbing and whatnot suck.

I kind of like the walking simulator stuff in both TLoU and U4. Particularly, some stuff towards the very end of Uncharted 4 is cathartic as fuck.

 

[Hindl]

man, even with a guest it still feels like the Jeff & Brad Show

Even when Dan was still there, if Dave Lang isn't on the show it's always the Jeff & Brad show

 

[slightconfuse]

So whats the difference between an ER and this yakuza thing

 

[Zaph]

So whats the difference between an ER and this yakuza thing

ER is daily and uninterrupted

 

[Twin Tails]

So whats the difference between an ER and this yakuza thing

Er is daily
This one is once a week

 

[oti]

Jeff didn't try HD Rumble? Man, what a bummer.