ShockingAlberto
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Someone once asked Jeff on tumblr why he hasn't fired Patrick yet and Jeff replied "I'm actually wondering why I haven't given him a raise yet."
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Someone once asked Jeff on tumblr why he hasn't fired Patrick yet and Jeff replied "I'm actually wondering why I haven't given him a raise yet."
I like Patrick, but I do admit that I shut off the video very early when he spent seemingly minutes on end reiterating the same points on infamous that Alex discussed more eloquently with a fraction of the verbage and adjectives necessary. Its a staple of his for sure, happened all the time on the Bombcast.
Not even sure what the deal is regarding MGS since I missed that segment and I haven't played the game yet. Something about being anti-rape?
MiniBossBattle
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I am not offended but when its repeated that "I haven't played inFamous but their storys are bad" then proceed to tell a company their arm-chair quaterbacking is the worst kind of beard (goatee) stroking I have heard in awhile.
I know Patrick is a SGW and thats fine. He is also a fan of horror film, some of the most cruel, gross, misogynistic/racial trope laden genre in cinema. Its also not for me and thats fine. Patrick needs to understand that games have become diverse enough and have their own mechanics so specialized that, in Alex's words are "Not my cup of tea".
That said, thats what makes GiantBomb amazing; they all have their softspots to specific genre with a bit of cross-over. Patrick, who should be commended, is willing to play and try new games but sometimes poorly writes or describes the game. His lets-play/audio dump trucks fills the vacuum of his inability to create a well written piece.
Alex and Patrick have moved from fact finding and reporting to their own thoughts and opinions of games they are kinda playing, which is not what I am looking for from them.
I know Patrick is a SGW and thats fine. He is also a fan of horror film, some of the most cruel, gross, misogynistic/racial trope laden genre in cinema. Its also not for me and thats fine. Patrick needs to understand that games have become diverse enough and have their own mechanics so specialized that, in Alex's words are "Not my cup of tea".
That said, thats what makes GiantBomb amazing; they all have their softspots to specific genre with a bit of cross-over. Patrick, who should be commended, is willing to play and try new games but sometimes poorly writes or describes the game. His lets-play/audio dump trucks fills the vacuum of his inability to create a well written piece.
Alex and Patrick have moved from fact finding and reporting to their own thoughts and opinions of games they are kinda playing, which is not what I am looking for from them.
SatelliteOfLove
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Bwahahahahaha, turning stupidity into brilliant love. GJ guys.
Nah, he catches alot of flak for his opinions, right/wrong, personal/critique of others, so he tends to encapsulate himself alot as a precaution.
Then he forgets the original point sometimes.
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I really hope that vinny doesn't start from the beginning every time and try to finish the game in one sitting. I'm hoping that they're using save states but i dont think i saw any obvious attempt to save a state before they quit last night.
IISANDERII
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I think Patrick will settle in eventually.
Jimmyfenix
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It will be 3 years since he joined GB he has already settled in in my opinion.
I don't think I've ever seen him so demoralized.
Haunted
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Sounds pretty accurate given Patrick's output on the site.
Jeff said they would be doing something with it today because the download was so slow yesterday and they still had to record the podcast.
StopMakingSense
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It's funny, 'cause as I never got past the Grim Reaper either, I never knew that the ending of Rondo of Blood/opening of SOtN was taken from the end of CastleVania 1.
I'd go along with that. Some of the things certain games writers claim are sexist defy belief. For example.
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/03/25/bioshock-infinite-burial-at-sea-2-review-pc/
brianmcdoogle
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Has anyone done a compilation of UPF into a "best of" segment? There's been some gems in the show, but a lot of filler that I don't particularly want to revisit for only one segment. Also, because the staff and website hate properly categorizing or tagging their stuff, it's impossible to find out what segments were in what video.
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Jeff Gerstmann ‏@jeffgerstmann 5m
At noon we're going to stream out some Elder Scrolls Online. @bradshoemaker seems to be on weird cold meds so this should be solid.
Brad Shoemaker ‏@bradshoemaker 7m
I am not on weird cold meds.
Who to believe?
At noon we're going to stream out some Elder Scrolls Online. @bradshoemaker seems to be on weird cold meds so this should be solid.
Brad Shoemaker ‏@bradshoemaker 7m
I am not on weird cold meds.
Who to believe?
No one
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I don't know brad, even completely normal cold meds can mess you up.
MiniBossBattle
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Make Greg do it.
I believe Brad. The medicine he's on must be to help with the Prince Albert procedure Vinny mentioned on UPF, not a cold.
$10 on first thing out of Brads mouth on that stream being: "Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuughghgh. *sniiiif*"
Jimmyfenix
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It'll be the a really heavy sigh followed by "oh man..."
ShockingAlberto
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It's Greg's time to shine!
SlowRevolution
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It seems like it's starting to happen with his writing, too (or maybe I just haven't noticed it before). That Oculus article especially didn't need to be as long as it was.
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I just started listening to Bombin' the A.M. a couple of weeks ago and caught up on most of the back catalog. I like the podcast a lot. One annoyance, though:
Is it difficult to balance audio levels from a podcast recorded over Skype? I often have to keep the volume up a bit since Patrick has a generally calm and even speaking audio level, but Alex is kind of all over the place. Often, he'll start a sentence at a really high volume and it gets annoying, especially when I'm listening with earphones.
Is it difficult to balance audio levels from a podcast recorded over Skype? I often have to keep the volume up a bit since Patrick has a generally calm and even speaking audio level, but Alex is kind of all over the place. Often, he'll start a sentence at a really high volume and it gets annoying, especially when I'm listening with earphones.
StopMakingSense
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Podcast!
Fattony12000
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Jefftrausers.
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The only thing that annoyed me about that discussion (other than the saying a whole lot of words without much meaning over and over again) was how Patrick seemed to be creating an air of "I'm right and anyone who doesn't take issue with how the content in Ground Zeroes was presented is disgusting." He want as far as to say that that kind of content can have a place in video games, but that Kojima just didn't do it right. Well, what would "doing it right" entail?
Patrick is essentially a Twitch streamer at this point.
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Uh, he definitely went into how it could have been handled better..
His whole point, which I agree with was that it's just put into side content that doesn't earn the weight of the subject.
His whole point, which I agree with was that it's just put into side content that doesn't earn the weight of the subject.
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I must have missed that part. I'm not done with the whole podcast, but they've moved one from Ground Zeroes where I stopped.
I did understand that he took issue with the creative choice to put most of that stuff into the optional audio tapes, but I wasn't sure why that bothered him so.
What does "doesn't earn the weight of the subject" mean in concrete terms? How does one treat it with a "deft touch?"
Not reducing it to an optional unlockable and 2 minutes of screen time.
I don't understand why people don't get this. You can have horrible things be a central theme in your story, but if you treat it like a passing topic that doesn't really matter, you end up looking gross.
They put more time and effort into the reason why Otakon's sister is afraid of water than they did explaining Paz, what happened to her with whom, and the total culmination of it. Johnny Sasaki's bowels are more fleshed out and better explained than what happened to Paz. That's a fucking problem considering the gravity of Paz's fate.
And the fact that people complain about that when the same people were demanding daily game content is amazing.
Backfoggen
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Did a single person in this thread buy a Tested.biz premium membership?
Nope. There isn't any content I found worth paying for.
BUNTING1243
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I did but let it lapse. Just wasn't enough interesting content to really justify it
Yeah, they're all homages to each other.
Rondo to OG Castlevania, then SotN to Rondo, which is to OG Castlevania.
He said "Castlevania 2 seems pretty cool right guys!" so I think next time they're moving on to Castlevania 2.
I think Patrick is great and he has done more than anyone else on the team since he was brought in to create content for the site, but you really nailed one of Patrick's biggest problems. He has this sort of need to be viewed as a sort of academic so he will go off on these long winded pedantic episodes where his overly thought out reasoning just tends to meander without actually going anywhere. It just comes off as some pseudo-intellectual trying way to hard to be what they really are not. Like you said, there is no need to ramble on about how its ok not to like MGS. I personally think MGS is total convoluted horseshit and thats fine because everyone has opinions, its just when people become assholes about opinions that crosses the line. Its really no surprise that he got picked to do a TED X talk and that is not to cheapen his experience or what he had to say, its just that TED X is the B team of wanna be intellectuals who cant make the cut for an actual TED talk and that fits perfectly with Patrick's personality.
Im all for Patrick and like what he does, but sometimes he can go off the deep end and he needs someone to bring him back down to earth sometimes.
There was that whole Dracula is super rapey thing from Lords of Shadow too - when people saw the actual clips they were all like "what?". I wonder what Kat thought about the MGS clusterfuck [sic], I should see if she wrote anything.
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Because its cheap.
Its dumb as hell and cheap. How can you not see that? I don't even need to play the game to tell you that much. Collectible audiologs are already out of vogue, and including subjects like rape and torture for flavor is completely inappropriate these days. We have the technology and ability to fully explore these themes. If you're gonna include them then you better treat it with the seriousness it requires. Dropping it into your weird anime-western to show off just how bad your new supervillain is comes off as immature in today's climate. Its completely tone deaf.
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