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Giant Bomb @ E3 2016 | WEED3
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Farpoint has gameplay.....Final Fantasy XV has gameplay......Resident Evil 7 has gameplay.....Battlefront has gameplay.
LurkerPrime
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Rats Off To Ya
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Dan specifically said it was Sony's worst presser in years.
But no, they weren't down on it. We're just PewDiePie fans who happened to stumble upon a Giant Bomb stream.
ScaryShark
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I'm literally watching it right now (at the Kojima game) and this seems in line with Giant Bomb since forever and pretty much every guy is reacting exactly how they have been to certain things for years.
Yeah, for as down as they were on some aspects of the conference, they were interested in God of War, Horizon, Detroit, the Kojima thing, and Resident Evil. I'd hardly call that cynical.
Yea. If you come out of E3 with things you want to play, I'd call that a success.
Puck Beaverton
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Because that teaser is more interesting than what I saw of FF7R last year.
AndrewDean84xX
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How can anyone watching the conference think differently?
Agreed with the GB consensus on pretty much every conference this year. Sony was disappointing aside from Horizon and God of War. They're doing absolutely nothing to create a convincing case for VR. The other thing is, like last year, everything is way off from release. GoW doesn't even have a release date, could easily be a 2018 game.
Dragon Puncher
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Stayed in their seat though. You can't be excited sitting down, everybody knows this.
For good reason too, there was so little coverage on their VR system; a major (and for consoles, expensive) product launching fairly soon.
YuriLowell
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He didn't say he hated it. He said it was the worst one in recent memory.
ScaryShark
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I'd take what they did over the absolute momentum stoppers at every other press conference today.
TheMadMan007
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Exactly, it's pointless to be nitpicky about the majority of stuff, because most of it is quite far away, but man September and October are going to be chock full of stuff this year... and those aren't even that far away. "It's never been a better time to be a gamer"
7DollarHagane
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Could be, but since that was a gameplay trailer, I'd imagine they are targeting next year.
That observation is fine. The problem is that hardcore Sony fans think that Giant Bomb not thanking Sony for the best E3 conference of all time means that they're all cynical, jaded, MS fanboys, shouldn't be in this industry, etc.
You're actually missing out on a lot of the initial excitement and seeing them in a more contemplative mood afterwards by skipping the live commentary. The reaction to the best stuff shown was pretty positive.
Bornstellar
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I just want to say that Jeff's XBL chat impression is AMAZING.
Homieeeeeee.
Tell me what Farpoint actually is and/or how it plays. Like at all.
And tell me FFXV and BF aren't Batman-like brief "experiences".
Resident Evil I'll kinda (read: VR OPTIONAL) give you, cuz that has a demo out now since people loved P.T., but the rest? Come on.
ScaryShark
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I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Farpoint plays like a FPS. Which they showed.
Not only that, but they spent days covering the Oculus and Vive. They know what disappointing VR software is like.
More than likely, if someone is getting a PSVR, they don't have an Oculus or Vive, so they don't understand why people are overly cautious about 1 hour VR experiences that are only fun to do once.
I guess I'm just not seeing where any of that is coming from. I've seen the "huh, it's weird that you didn't really like it", but I've seen far more defense of their response than I have of people actually attacking it.
Death Metalist
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Do it!
My favorite bit from the Ubisoft conference.
AndrewDean84xX
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Agreed. GB was on point at all times.
At this point, what is "create a convincing case for VR" going to look like at this point? Sony's platform has small, experiemental indie experiences. It has full $60 retail titles that can be played completely in VR. It has mid-tier experiences using popular IPs like Star Wars and Batman. It has notable competitive and cooperative multiplayer titles. I'm not sure what else there is you could want, or how some more significant stage time would have convinced you that you did want more.
Go look up their GAF or Youtube comments for Sony 2015.
Certainly looked more like a walking simulator-y, rails-y + shooting thing than that to me.
Think Fable: The Journey but space.
Ploid 3.0
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It was to be expected. GB seem to be the type to expect the worst to hopefully be surprised when they finally play it, but they are stuck in the "This can't be right" mode and continue to look for the worst in things. I will check their commentary out soon, but I'm going in expecting the worst (hah, well expecting them to expect the worst). I'll check out Easy Allies tonight.
GB haters seem like they don't wanna admit that Horizon was the only thing in the conference coming out remotely soon that looked legitimately sick as fuck. Which is why every man on the GB panel called it "great" more than once. For the right reasons, every time a mechanic or moment showed the depth and involvement of the encounters, some truly great looking game design from Guerilla.
Bombers were on point. They can get hyped, they're just sick of all the same old shit and don't wear tear drenched nostalgia goggles.
Bombers were on point. They can get hyped, they're just sick of all the same old shit and don't wear tear drenched nostalgia goggles.
It's not like people didn't expect this. It's early days for "proper" VR. There'll be a few years of growing pains while devs learn how games in that space should work. I'm totally okay with not buying a VR set for a few years until it evens out.
...But I can't help but feel that Sony should have made a better case for it than that.
Would seeing it organically not be a better measure of how prevalent it is than having to seek it out?
No, I watched the whole thing after the fact. I just watched the press conference on my own the first time. So yeah, they were pretty positive on God of War and Horizon (my bad for failing to mention that one earlier), and they were kinda split on RE7. They seemed more keen to criticize the lack of what they felt like was good VR stuff and the lack of mentioning any PS Neo stuff, and that just kinda painted their whole opinion of it. Just found it to be a bit weird, because these conferences usually get criticized for not focusing on games, but this one was all just one game after another without any bullshit in the middle.
Sorry, but what I've seen out of it doesn't justify $400 in the slightest. Im not looking for what you consider mid-tier or 'experiences'. Maybe some people are, but I feel a vast majority are not. I'm not sure which $60 VR games make you excited. Examples?
Death Metalist
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Farpoint is a game where you go to a planet and find out that there are monsters there and you have to shoot them with your gun which is in the middle of the frame throughout the entire video, so I think we can assume it's an action/shooter title.
Are FFXV and Battlefield brief? Probably, but gameplay is featured in their trailers.
Would a sizzle reel of all the already showcaseed titles (Rez, Gran Turismo, RIGs, Robot Golf, etc) have made VR look that much better?
ScaryShark
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Sweet preemptive analysis of their coverage without having even watched it.
Giant Bomb does this weeeeeeeeird thing of being skeptical of a corporation's advertisements in an industry where outright lying and deceit is pretty common. They're one of the few big sites that's personality driven where everyone (sans Vinny) has a background in old school video game journalism and criticism. There's a very real and (IMO) good reason they are the way they are when they give their initial reaction in real time.
Puck Beaverton
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Reedus and Kojima being friendly feels weird. It's like a normal celeb shouldn't be this buddy buddy with a weird nerdy game dev.
Obviously people didn't expect this judging by the complaints. Maybe there just is no better case for it right now.
Except all the bullshit VR "games". Stuff at the beginning like Farpoint I could leave or take but at least it looked substantive. When they have to ask themselves "Is this a free pack in? Is it $5? $20?" I think the commentators are rightly cynical.
Resident Evil and Gran Turismo would be my main areas of interest. I hope REZ isn't going to be $60, but it's a full-on game that should be an incredible experience.
Not sure why people feel a need to do thread drive-bys as if there is some sort of competition. Like there are a million places to watch the conferences that will suit your specific interests.
Farpoint looked boring as shit, and everything else was barely a game.
And i have a PSVR preordered. I really wanted that stuff to look cool
Farpoint looked boring as shit, and everything else was barely a game.
And i have a PSVR preordered. I really wanted that stuff to look cool
Intheflorsh
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Fair point. I was being hyperbolic, there was some footage. Resident Evil 7 was basically a CG trailer with an extra-wavy camera and FFXV had like 20 seconds of actual footage, but there was some. Farpoint and Battlefront... well I forgot those clips even aired. Then there was the Arkham VR thing which was literally nothing.
All I'm saying is the VR marketing they did was like an afterthought, which is insane for something they are charging the price of a console for. If they're going to treat VR like a novelty item then why even bother? Use one of your first party studios to make a full length, well made VR game and push it like it's something worth getting. Otherwise, don't even try because no one is dropping 400 bucks for some VR experiences.
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