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[popo]

On one hand I agree that he can support whoever he likes and screw the idiots.

On the other hand, he must know that invoking that name will inflame both the more reactionary GB fans and the gamersgate nuts.

He could have expressed support in better ways that would not stoke the flames.

Next thing he will be condemning the replies - replies that would not exist had he not made a public tweet like that.

 

[Archaix]

There is literally zero problem with Patrick's tweet. He expressed a positive opinion about a colleague's work, there is no way to interpret any asshole's insane overreaction as anything but evidence of their own mental deficiencies. He shouldn't self-censor completely reasonable opinions in support of somebody who is being unfairly targeted because there are jackasses who might target him too.

 

[alr1ght]

He could have expressed support in better ways that would not stoke the flames.

Next thing he will be condemning the replies - replies that would not exist had he not made a public tweet like that.

We'll get a blog post about it.

 

[SatelliteOfLove]

Intel apparently pulled ads from Gamasutra because of pressure from gamergate people over some of Leigh's articles over there. It's fucking dumb.

They...believed those people? She doesn't even work there any more.

Well, at least it explains Scoops' pulling a Nietschke...

 

[popo]

I find Alex's last tweet much more interesting. What's wolf talking about?

I hadn't heard about that disgusting "hood men" tweet until now.

Was it not "hood rat"? She also made a joke about Irish drinking and fighting that was pretty tame and people are declaring her a racist for.

 

[firehawk12]

Does the whole <> thing predate Patrick anyway? lol

 

[Myggen]

On one hand I agree that he can support whoever he likes and screw the idiots.

On the other hand, he must know that invoking that name will inflame both the more reactionary GB fans and the gamersgate nuts.

He could have expressed support in better ways that would not stoke the flames.

Next thing he will be condemning the replies - replies that would not exist had he not made a public tweet like that.

Eh, I don't see what's so bad about that tweet and how he can express support in a better way than that. Also, no one should care much about what the extremists think when saying stuff, on Twitter or elsewhere. GB fans or not. Also, looking at the replies there doesn't seem to be much controversy, just the usual gamergate crowd crying over nothing. Nothing to see here imo.

edit: I doubt EmCee will be happy if we drag the bigger question over gamergate into this thread, so maybe I'll stop here.

 

[Curufinwe]

Was it not "hood rat"? She also made a joke about Irish drinking and fighting that was pretty tame and people are declaring her a racist for.

Nope, men.

 

[Haunted]

On one hand I agree that he can support whoever he likes and screw the idiots.

On the other hand, he must know that invoking that name will inflame both the more reactionary GB fans and the gamersgate nuts.

He could have expressed support in better ways that would not stoke the flames.

Next thing he will be condemning the replies - replies that would not exist had he not made a public tweet like that.

"invoking that name"

what the fuck am I reading.

If the mere mention of Leigh Alexander is enough to rattle some people, let them be rattled, let them be insecure and lash out. It only makes it easier to spot the trash.

There is literally zero problem with Patrick's tweet. He expressed a positive opinion about a colleague's work, there is no way to interpret any asshole's insane overreaction as anything but evidence of their own mental deficiencies. He shouldn't self-censor completely reasonable opinions in support of somebody who is being unfairly targeted because there are jackasses who might target him too.

Ayup!

Patrick is not one to step back and let bullies silence his opinions, and that's why he is invaluable.

 

[Myggen]

"invoking that name"

what the fuck am I reading.

If the mere mention of Leigh Alexander is enough to rattle some people, let them be rattled, let them be insecure and lash out. It only makes it easier to spot the worthwhile part of the community from the trash.

Exactly.

 

[Zaph]

oh God. Patrick's twitter is about to blow up. You would think he of all people would know better.

He's right, she's a good writer. Fuck the crazies. However I'd never tweet universal support like that for someone who has publicly insulted my co-workers' work multiple times. It's weird.

Then again, this industry is always weird when it comes to social media and similar things. The expectation for discretion and professionalism is low. I frequently see really big names make gossipy comments that just wouldn't fly elsewhere.

 

[daydream]

F1 steering wheels look dope.

 

[popo]

Nope, men.

This was the one I was thinking of

http://theralphretort.com/wp-content/uploads/RkVO0kO1.jpg

"invoking that name"

what the fuck am I reading.

Enough that her name was all but banned on this thread for the arguments it causes. Check the comments on any GB article - like worth reading - that even mentions her.

Kinda regret bringing it up at all.

 

[Myggen]

He's right, she's a good writer. Fuck the crazies. However I'd never tweet universal support like that for someone who has publicly insulted my co-workers' work multiple times. It's weird.

Then again, this industry is always weird when it comes to social media and similar things. The expectation for discretion and professionalism is low. I frequently see really big names make gossipy comments that just wouldn't fly elsewhere.

That's more Twitter than "this industry" imo. I follow plenty of other entertainment journalists and political journalists on Twitter, and some of them can get very personal about stuff too. I just think Twitter can be really weird in the way it blends the person and the professional persona.

 

[MrTroubleMaker]

Didn't this take like 10 hours for people to do? If so I don't see this happening.

 

[Draxyle]

It was pretty disgusting looking into the replies of that simple tweet. People hold grudges for the most ridiculous things.

 

[TheTylerRob]

Yeah if mentioning Leigh in a completely innocuous tweet is enough to cause an uproar, actual sexism has won. Shakin my head.

 

[firehawk12]

"invoking that name"

what the fuck am I reading.

If the mere mention of Leigh Alexander is enough to rattle some people, let them be rattled, let them be insecure and lash out. It only makes it easier to spot the trash.

Go back to the old GB threads on GAF. People in this very community hate/hated her back then, especially the second time when Ryan apparently called her psychotic or something in a screenshot.

Didn't this take like 10 hours for people to do? If so I don't see this happening.

Yeah, without any instruction, there's a lot of trial and error. The game doesn't tell you a single thing about what to do and introduces mechanics not found in any other part of the game.

 

[popo]

Didn't this take like 10 hours for people to do? If so I don't see this happening.

The first people to do it took 10 hours. There has been a lot of loot balancing since and despite Brads wish to go in blind - I bet one of his team will have read up on the strats.

 

[strafer]

So Drew is going to Vietnam. Cool.

 

[nckillthegrimace]

She's awful, but that only justifies completely ignoring her, not verbally attacking her and her supporters.

 

[stump sock]

Oh she's probably actually good at expressing her opinions. That's probably an accurate compliment.

I'll refrain from commenting further on what I think of those opinions however.

 

[funkystudent]

Has Leigh done any shit steering the last week or two that is worth anyone getting angry about after that first article.

Have not followed that mess since she got involved TBH. She gets too much joy starting fires.

 

[firehawk12]

The first people to do it took 10 hours. There has been a lot of loot balancing since and despite Brads wish to go in blind - I bet one of his team will have read up on the strats.

Yeah, or I bet someone will break down and just look it up themselves while playing. lol

 

[Curufinwe]

It was pretty disgusting looking into the replies of that simple tweet. People hold grudges for the most ridiculous things.

Can't be any more disgusting than what I saw when I googled hood men leigh

 

[RE_Player]

I hope people realize that those nasty replies in regards to Leigh and Patrick's tweets to her represent an extreme vocal minority. Not excusing the behaviour but lets not become incensed about it and declare "Gaming and gamers are terrible!" like some others are.

 

[TheBaronOfNA]

I still don't like Leigh but... Is Patrick time and the GG are jerks. He is doing what he believes so good for him.

 

[Myggen]

I hope people realize that those nasty replies in regards to Leigh and Patrick's tweets to her represent an extreme vocal minority. Not excusing the behaviour but lets not become incensed about it and declare "Gaming and gamers are terrible!" like some others are.

No one here have said anything like that.

Anyways, a next gen F1 game is gonna look amazing.

 

[RE_Player]

No one here have said anything like that.

I know I'm just warning against that mentality. Other people have taken up that stance in regards to cases like this.

 

[wenis]

whats the short and sweet on this gamersgate thing?

I still have no clue what it is and haven't had the time or patience to really look.

 

[RE_Player]

whats the short and sweet on this gamersgate thing?

I still have no clue what it is and haven't had the time or patience to really look.

There is a thread on gaf about it.

 

[TheBaronOfNA]

whats the short and sweet on this gamersgate thing?

I still have no clue what it is and haven't had the time or patience to really look.

There is a thread about that. That explains in detail. This stuff is not going to end well here.

 

[bigwinnerx]

whats the short and sweet on this gamersgate thing?

I still have no clue what it is and haven't had the time or patience to really look.

What's your stance on the Tea Party?

 

[MrTroubleMaker]

Yeah, without any instruction, there's a lot of trial and error. The game doesn't tell you a single thing about what to do and introduces mechanics not found in any other part of the game.

I saw some of that when I was watching those streams. I couldn't watch all of it, it was just to much.

The first people to do it took 10 hours. There has been a lot of loot balancing since and despite Brads wish to go in blind - I bet one of his team will have read up on the strats.

Me too.

 

[strafer]

Wait, is that how the F1 cars sound now?

 

[TheBaronOfNA]

What's your stance on the Tea Party?

I like Tea with sugar. Ices tea taste horrible, thought...

 

[Myggen]

Wait, is that how the F1 cars sound now?

Yeah, waaaaay toned down.

 

[Fotheringay]

Wait, is that how the F1 cars sound now?

I present to you the saddest video on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jS4Dh_EAfJI

 

[strafer]

Yeah, waaaaay toned down.

oh ffs...whos idea was it to change it?

 

[Aaron]

oh ffs...whos idea was it to change it?

They have hybrid engines now. The sound change was a natural product of that.

 

[Ketch]

whats the short and sweet on this gamersgate thing?

I still have no clue what it is and haven't had the time or patience to really look.

The short and sweet?

Some people speak out against tropes regarding females in video games with varying degress of valid criticism. Some vocal portion of the gaming audience takes offense and goes off the deep end with real life threats and harassment. Also unfounded accusations regarding gaming press and developer personal sex lives serve as a scapegoat for hate speech.

 

[daydream]

I present to you the saddest video on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jS4Dh_EAfJI

Ouch. They sound like toy cars now.

 

[Myggen]

oh ffs...whos idea was it to change it?

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/113238

I came back to F1 this year after a few years off, and I have no real problems with the changes. But I'm in the minority.

 

[elfinke]

Wait, is that how the F1 cars sound now?

1.6-litre turbocharged engine sound...

I present to you the saddest video on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jS4Dh_EAfJI

That's pretty great.

 

[Novoitus]

She's awful, but that only justifies completely ignoring her, not verbally attacking her and her supporters.

indeed

 

[Nerokis]

I just started watching An Idiot Abroad. 3 minutes in, and the Dan vibes I'm getting are already insane.

"[Chinese people] wreck everything. They make everything weird. Everything. Chicken! Why is it orange in Chinatown?"

 

[Chuck]

"invoking that name"

what the fuck am I reading.

She specifically tried to attack GB's fanbase directly by saying any shitty piece she's written is better than everything GB has ever done ever.

Also Patrick is on drugs if her lunacy is in any way "well articulated", lol

 

[Aaron]

Danny has successfully made me giggle every time Pastor Maldenado is mentioned.

 

[Myggen]

Snip

Chill.

Anyways, it looks pretty insane to drive in cockpit view in the rain in the F1 game. Might have to give this game a go on PC.

 

[Sleeping Lesson]

I just started watching An Idiot Abroad. 3 minutes in, and the Dan vibes I'm getting are already insane.

"[Chinese people] wreck everything. They make everything weird. Everything. Chicken! Why is it orange in Chinatown?"

The more Karl Pilkington I watch, the more intelligent I think he is. He has honestly said some crazy shit that actually made me reexamine preconceptions I had about something. I'm waiting for a similarly philosophic Dan moment. I may be waiting a while.